Military Veteran wins battle to fly American & Military Flags outside home

the ambush said:
A military veteran won his case to fly two flags outside his home in Griffin, Georgia. A retired Marine Captain displayed an American flag and a Marine Corps flag outside his home and was under fire from the community’s HOA. Lowe signed a contractual agreement in a HOA to abide by the community rules and on the other hand the issue overlapped the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In matters involving the Constitution and the Bill of Rights usually civil liberties will prevail.

http://www.talk1067atlanta.com/2013/10/01/veteran-wins-battle-to-fly-u-s-usmc-flags-outside-home/
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Isn't it enough that we let these guys die for the values the flag represents? Do they really have to fly the things from their front porch, too? Greedy bastards...
 
the ambush said:
A military veteran won his case to fly two flags outside his home in Griffin, Georgia. A retired Marine Captain displayed an American flag and a Marine Corps flag outside his home and was under fire from the community’s HOA. Lowe signed a contractual agreement in a HOA to abide by the community rules and on the other hand the issue overlapped the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In matters involving the Constitution and the Bill of Rights usually civil liberties will prevail.

http://www.talk1067atlanta.com/2013/10/01/veteran-wins-battle-to-fly-u-s-usmc-flags-outside-home/
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Just wondering, did you notice this news is five years old?
 
Scary that he had to fight for it.

Liberals hate seeing the American flag displayed
 
spamking said:
How often does an HOA actually change their covenants? To me, the fact that they actually gave in and changed them means he did "win" his case, request or whatever you want to call it.
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There was no case. It was a homeowner refusing to abide by the HOA rules and the negative publicity seems to have influenced the decision to change the rules. So you're not out of bounds saying the homeowner "won" this conflict.
However the original poster framed this as a situation where there were 2 competing interests 1 being the HOA rules and the other being some violation of the Constitution and Bill of Rights and that the Constitution prevailed. That was clearly innacurate and also it was clear that the OP either didn't read the article or understand what they had read. A quote from the original post "Lowe signed a contractual agreement in a HOA to abide by the community rules and on the other hand the issue overlapped the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In matters involving the Constitution and the Bill of Rights usually civil liberties will prevail."
 
Ling Ling said:
There was no case. It was a homeowner refusing to abide by the HOA rules and the negative publicity seems to have influenced the decision to change the rules. So you're not out of bounds saying the homeowner "won" this conflict.
However the original poster framed this as a situation where there were 2 competing interests 1 being the HOA rules and the other being some violation of the Constitution and Bill of Rights and that the Constitution prevailed. That was clearly innacurate and also it was clear that the OP either didn't read the article or understand what they had read. A quote from the original post "Lowe signed a contractual agreement in a HOA to abide by the community rules and on the other hand the issue overlapped the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In matters involving the Constitution and the Bill of Rights usually civil liberties will prevail."
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I don't really care that much . . . HOAs can be evil, pains in the rear . . . I'm happy anytime they're forced to see reason.
 
HOAs can have rules about icons/flags etc because it can be beneficial to you. it can stop the cunt across the road flying a confederate flag, or an SS flag, or having a large inflatable green waving men like at car dealerships.

So if someone wants an american flag on their yard because theyre american, and i live in the usa can i put a british flag up? then every nationality in the street wants their own flag up.

no cunt wants this argument in real life, its tiresome. hence HOA rules that some see as shit and others think help in not seeing shit that annoys their eyes.
 
spamking said:
How often does an HOA actually change their covenants? To me, the fact that they actually gave in and changed them means he did "win" his case, request or whatever you want to call it.
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This is quite correct and why as citizens we should protest laws just as long it is within an ethical realm. In the past I read similar stories to community management/HOA’s bullying elderly folks about non-offensive flag or decal on their vehicles. Typically as long as the things being disputed are in good taste they should be contested and fought for.

BillytheFish said:
HOAs can have rules about icons/flags etc because it can be beneficial to you. it can stop the cunt across the road flying a confederate flag, or an SS flag, or having a large inflatable green waving men like at car dealerships.

So if someone wants an american flag on their yard because theyre american, and i live in the usa can i put a british flag up? then every nationality in the street wants their own flag up.

no cunt wants this argument in real life, its tiresome. hence HOA rules that some see as shit and others think help in not seeing shit that annoys their eyes.
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Those are why laws exist. However, laws can be protested and overturned, too. We are not all robots and are allowed to freely think and have feelings. Things within honest reason have every right to be disputed.
 
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Ling Ling said:
There was no case. It was a homeowner refusing to abide by the HOA rules and the negative publicity seems to have influenced the decision to change the rules. So you're not out of bounds saying the homeowner "won" this conflict.
However the original poster framed this as a situation where there were 2 competing interests 1 being the HOA rules and the other being some violation of the Constitution and Bill of Rights and that the Constitution prevailed. That was clearly innacurate and also it was clear that the OP either didn't read the article or understand what they had read. A quote from the original post "Lowe signed a contractual agreement in a HOA to abide by the community rules and on the other hand the issue overlapped the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In matters involving the Constitution and the Bill of Rights usually civil liberties will prevail."
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The community management/HOA’s rules did not overrule the civil liberties of a citizen in this case. This is not some deep experiment yet as an American there are certain things we should learn to appreciate.
 
bushman505 said:
Because you couldn’t afford to.
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Agreed though, HOA's are important for property values, and to keep fuck ups in check who inherit shit they didn't earn and don't appreciate. Stupid for an HOA to not allow American flags though, they are beautiful.
 
Cake4Breakfast said:
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Agreed though, HOA's are important for property values, and to keep fuck ups in check who inherit shit they didn't earn and don't appreciate. Stupid for an HOA to not allow American flags though, they are beautiful.
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They are nice for. Sling sure people paint their houses, now their yards, keep their cars in their driveways etc. the flag thing is stupid as shit.
 
Most HOA's have a rule that the flag can be an American Flag only, no other flags. Owner was allowed to fly the American Flag just not the 2nd flag
Homeboy decided he wanted to not follow the rules and fly a 2nd flag. Got fined for breaking the rules, which he had to sign off in order to move in.

The reason most HOA's have the American Flag rule is because who wants to ride down your street, seeing a Nazi flag, confederate flag, Florida Gators or Miami Hurricane flag. Anyone one of those will drive down values or turn off potential buyers.

There is an issue here locally about an owner who was asked to remove a rainbow flag that honors victims of Pulse. The HOA changed the rules and dude got to keep his flag.
http://www.fox35orlando.com/news/local-news/hoa-controversy-over-rainbow-flag

I don't agree with the Marine Flag owner or the Rainbow flag owner. Everyone thinks they are special and do not have to follow the rules.
 
VivaRevolution said:
Lol. You can't sign your right away to fly a flag, but you can sign your right away to arbitration all day long. Why, because one effects our corporate overlords, and the other doesn't.

Fucking banana republic we live in.
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Please stop using this term and be less stupid.

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State capitalism is an economic system in which the state undertakes commercial (i.e. for-profit) economic activity and where the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned business enterprises (including the processes of capital accumulation, wage labor and centralized management), or where there is otherwise a dominance of corporatized government agencies (agencies organized along business-management practices) or of publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling shares.[1] Marxist literature defines state capitalism as a social system combining capitalism with ownership or control by a state—by this definition, a state capitalist country is one where the government controls the economy and essentially acts like a single huge corporation, extracting the surplus value from the workforce in order to invest it in further production.
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you have zero proof the USA is this so stop fucking lie crying. Cry about something real. If you can only bitch about things that are not true you are admitting that there is nothing wrong.

kenetics said:
Natives have a right to be offended and even blacks for that matter .
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Everybody has the right to be offended by anything
doesn't mean it should be against the law


I mean, shit, people could be offended by your fucking racism but you do it anyway, bigot.
 
the ambush said:
The community management/HOA’s rules did not overrule the civil liberties of a citizen in this case. This is not some deep experiment yet as an American there are certain things we should learn to appreciate.
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I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but it appears that you still don't understand the basics of the article you posted about.
There are no "civil liberties" involved and the HOA's rules were changed to allow the homeowners to fly more than one flag.
There was no court case, there was no triumph of civil liberties over HOA rules. The HOA decided to change their rules. You mischaracterized the issues in your OP.
 
bushman505 said:
Excuse what??? I think what I wrote it pretty clear.
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It was a stupid post.

I will never live in an HOA because I will not willingly sign away freedoms.

I am starting to think you are to the right as Donkey Kong is to the Left.
 
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