Mike Pence caught on wiretap

[Ophydian]

Supporting a whistleblower/gov transparency advocate when the leaks suit you then abruptly deciding he's a "lying little bitch" when the tables turn is indicative of the type of person you are in the most general sense.

It transcends Assange and to a point transcends politics. Whatever your ulterior motive is it must be of profound importance.

Interesting take on his reasoning. I have a question for you. Would you feel it is ok for a whistleblower to be used by a foreign power who is against what America stands for purposely trying to cause as much tension and turmoil as possible?

For instance, what if ISIL or AQ came across sensitive US government information and handed it over to Wikileaks who then posted it. Not knowing what is true or not in that dump wouldn't you take issue about how the information got there?

 

[west42]

I wish yall would stop making "cuck" so popular...

Since trump took office I have actually been approached twice to have sex with someones morbidly obese wife.

Thanks ass holes for making that lifestyle so.... Popular.

Pics?

 

[The ScorpioN]

I wish yall would stop making "cuck" so popular...

Since trump took office I have actually been approached twice to have sex with someones morbidly obese wife.

Thanks ass holes for making that lifestyle so.... Popular.

This happened.

 

[Fawlty]

Says the guy posting on an internet forum anonymously.

I may not agree with Assange on many things, but I wouldn't exactly call him a "little bitch".

Okay, then what criticism meets your anonymous internet standards, given that he tried to push a treason conspiracy and had to backtrack?

Put any word in there you want besides "bitch" but I'm leaving in "lying".

 

[jamel]

Hey when the mulatto birthrate rises and everybody look creole and fine as hell dont say you didnt hace a heads up.

There will be unintended consequences for that trend.

A bunch of fine ass (but crazy) redbones.

 

[AviatorShades]

You're reduced to nonsense here.

When specifically do you feel that Putin gained control of Wikileaks, if what I said was nonsense?

You are basically suggesting that Putin controls not only the US government but that the largest western dissident groups are Putin controlled-op as well. That the whole thing is a Putin puppet show from top to bottom.

Since the DNC/HRC leaks show that they intentionally designed a media bait-and-switch supporting Trump in the RNC primaries then pulling the plug after he won, why don't you also suspect Hillary of being in on it? Her role was absolutely crucial.

Interesting take on his reasoning. I have a question for you. Would you feel it is ok for a whistleblower to be used by a foreign power who is against what America stands for purposely trying to cause as much tension and turmoil as possible?

For instance, what if ISIL or AQ came across sensitive US government information and handed it over to Wikileaks who then posted it. Not knowing what is true or not in that dump wouldn't you take issue about how the information got there?

It depends on the nature of the information, not the source or mutual beneficiary. I support the release of domestic surveillance and election collusion leaks pretty much unconditionally and I don't know how those would benefit a group like ISIS.

In this case, if the leaks did affect the elections, then we narrowly avoided the disaster of a Clinton neoliberal/neocon dynastic presidency and elected her so-far very solid rival. I will remain on the side of transparency until we encounter a real-life scenario where it proves detrimental. The DNC leaks showed how vulnerable our democracy is to collusion between partisans and the corporate media, primary rigging, etcetera and how valuable these documents are regardless of the source.

Interestingly while this shit is laid out right in front of people, they would prefer to ignore it and instead speculate wildly about Vladimir Putin, fantasize about starting a world war over a theory that has culminated into not a single page, not a single written line of evidence.

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

We're the new ct breed? Who said they believed all that nonsense Aviator posted in the post of his you quoted? I think someone's just jelly they got cucked in the @pcptornado poll. Don't worry sweetheart with a little lipstick maybe next time you'll get my vote

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/p...wood-you-rather.3497823/page-7#post-128488089

Dam 57 to 14 ? Ouch! No wonder you're lashing out.

Oh I knew I wouldn't win that poll lol. As stated per a pm to the PAWG king @pcptornado . I think it was just great exposing a lot of you repressed homos. Look at you, already fantasizing about putting lipstick on me. EXPOSED

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

The only person on Trump's team not caught with Russians so far is Trump.. but I'm the conspiracy wacko. OK.


The Russians have stolen from us and are releasing our data to the entire world through Wikileaks, but somehow I'm a conspiracy nut for thinking it's problematic for American interests if our cyber warefare capabilities are made public. Again.

So what you're saying is... you're a CT nutter? K

lol'd good @luckyshot

 

[Fawlty]

When specifically do you feel that Putin gained control of Wikileaks, if what I said was nonsense?

That's a bad question, because Putin isn't sitting over Wikileaks' shoulder- he's happy to throw money at things that are in his interest. But to answer the question you should have asked, some time after 2012 when he started taking checks from the Kremlin through their state propaganda channel, RT, is when it became reasonable to suspect he was compromised. And that has played out exactly as you would expect it to play out given he was compromised.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Trump said he was wiretapped by obama.

That constitutes as a pretty big lie.

And now we found out his vice president and his campaign were under surveillance during Obama's administration. If this turns out to be true, then Trump's claim is much more truthful.

 

[Fawlty]

And now we found out his vice president and his campaign were under surveillance during Obama's administration. If this turns out to be true, then Trump's claim is much more truthful.

We already knew his campaign was under investigation. We knew this in the summer of last year. This isn't some emerging vindication. Also, it's not what he said.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

We already knew his campaign was under investigation. We knew this in the summer of last year. This isn't some emerging vindication. Also, it's not what he said.

It's a further confirmation of something the media seems to be working very hard to deny. Also, it very much seems to be in the same vein as what Trump said. Trump said that he was being wiretapped, and while that is unconfirmed we do find out his vice-president is being wiretapped. If you think that exchange makes Trump looks bad, then you are too partisan.

 

[P4p Islam]

And now we found out his vice president and his campaign were under surveillance during Obama's administration. If this turns out to be true, then Trump's claim is much more truthful.

Not really, or at all. Trump said obama wiretapped him.

 

[Fawlty]

It's a further confirmation of something the media seems to be working very hard to deny. Also, it very much seems to be in the same vein as what Trump said. Trump said that he was being wiretapped, and while that is unconfirmed we do find out his vice-president is being wiretapped. If you think that exchange makes Trump looks bad, then you are too partisan.

His VP was picked up on the other end of the wire, which you don't seem fit to mention. That's not something you can fold into your narrative like an omelette. And again (I seem to have to say "again" a lot), the investigation was public knowledge by August of last year. Remember Trump talking about how lawyers could make a great case out of politically-targeted surveillance by the President? That's the context of his comments. That's what he said, and that's what he meant. Partisanship has killed your ability, not mine, to see the reality of this situation. And further, we know that Trump was just parroting shitty Fox News stories like he does time and time again. He's not vindicated in any way whatsoever.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Not really, or at all. Trump said obama wiretapped him.

1. Hahaha, all the liberals are now strict constructionists! You guys should really get behind Gorsuch then.

2. Suppose a man saw that there was always an unmarked van outside his house and he found a listening device in his living room. He says, "Th e FBI is following me and listening to my conversations." Later we found out that he wasn't being followed, they just listened to conversation s in the house and that they weren't targeting him, but his wife. Was that man lying? Hardly.

3. It's becoming clear that we haven't reached the bottom of this yet. There's a lot more meat to this story thus far than you are willing to admit. Let it play out. I think we're going to see people go to jail before we're through.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

His VP was picked up on the other end of the wire, which you don't seem fit to mention. That's not something you can fold into your narrative like an omelette. And again (I seem to have to say "again" a lot), the investigation was public knowledge by August of last year. Remember Trump talking about how lawyers could make a great case out of politically-targeted surveillance by the President? That's the context of his comments. That's what he said, and that's what he meant. Partisanship has killed your ability, not mine, to see the reality of this situation. And further, we know that Trump was just parroting shitty Fox News stories like he does time and time again. He's not vindicated in any way whatsoever.

Unmasking American citizens caught in surveillance gathering is a felony. Seems like it has happened here and with Flynn.

 

[Fawlty]

Be careful with those charms. The dye in them reacts with your bile salts, and substantial amounts turns your poop bright green.

This appears to have happened btw. Just saying.

 

[P4p Islam]

1. Hahaha, all the liberals are now strict constructionists! You guys should really get behind Gorsuch then.

2. Suppose a man saw that there was always an unmarked van outside his house and he found a listening device in his living room. He says, "Th e FBI is following me and listening to my conversations." Later we found out that he wasn't being followed, they just listened to conversation s in the house and that they weren't targeting him, but his wife. Was that man lying? Hardly.

3. It's becoming clear that we haven't reached the bottom of this yet. There's a lot more meat to this story thus far than you are willing to admit. Let it play out. I think we're going to see people go to jail before we're through.

What makes me a liberal? You're trying to argue stone cold facts.

Trump said "obama wiretapped me." Not "obama wiretapped one of my guys".


Not to mention comey saying there was literally no evidence of trump being bugged.

 

[Seano]

Wiretaps, no wiretaps, wire taps here, there and nowhere!

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

What makes me a liberal? You're trying to argue stone cold facts.

Trump said "obama wiretapped me." Not "obama wiretapped one of my guys".


Not to mention comey saying there was literally no evidence of trump being bugged.

So you honestly think it is a bigger scandal that Trump said "Obama wiretapped me" than it is for the Obama administration to have been widely surveilling Trump's transition team?