Mid-air Collusion (Mueller Thread v. 19)

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Trump running the investigation against him. Sounds logical.

I rest my case! Case closed.

 

[HomerThompson]

I rest my case! Case closed.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

He's that law-talkin' guy!

 

[Limbo Pete]

He's that law-talkin' guy!

 

[dontsnitch]

That is the most laughable thing on shartdog. I’ve literally not been wrong a single time on the russia investigation. In fact, I made a thread about trump being spied on a day before it broke on major news outlets.


Trump will walk.

The entire left and the national media outlets will look like fools.

I’ll be here like,

Is the consensus around here that Trump will not "walk"?

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Is the consensus around here that Trump will not "walk"?

No, he will skate.
Some around him will be having serious legal issues. Maybe his stupid idiot son.

 

[FIMN]

Is the consensus around here that Trump will not "walk"?

Nobody knows really.

For me it's either Trump or the rule of law that will survive, it cannot be both.

Your country is lurching towards authoritarianism.

 

[bobgeese]

Is the consensus around here that Trump will not "walk"?

There are still a few reasonable democrats here. However many have some wild imaginations.

 

[Joe]

trump still doubting Russia's role

The probe, he said, “played right into the Russians - if it was Russia - they played right into the Russians’ hands.”

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Nobody knows really.

For me it's either Trump or the rule of law that will survive, it cannot be both.

Your country is lurching towards authoritarianism.

Oh please. Lurching toward.

We're mostly there already.

The POTUS calls the Free Press enemy of the people like he's Mao II, and it's just a drop in an ocean of outrageous, unPresidential bullshit.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Is the consensus around here that Trump will not "walk"?

He's not getting impeached without something very very drastic occurring while the Dems are in charge. GOP won't ever do it under any circumstances unless they are forced to, and their constituents would never ever do that imo. How many Presidents have we ever removed from office? There's the answer. He won't be the first, barring a terribly egregious and ironclad scandal with dems in control of the Senate. That's not to say his cohorts won't continue to suffer/go to jail, and I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up in front of congress, but he ain't going anywhere as things stand now. Even if impeachment proceeding are somehow actually started, a GOP Senate will not convict.

 

[Joe]

This is so fucking bizarre...its like reality TV for Trump

 

[Limbo Pete]

This is so fucking bizarre...its like reality TV for Trump

This shit is getting dark

 

[Fawlty]

He's not getting impeached without something very very drastic occurring while the Dems are in charge. GOP won't ever do it under any circumstances unless they are forced to, and their constituents would never ever do that imo. How many Presidents have we ever removed from office? There's the answer. He won't be the first, barring a terribly egregious and ironclad scandal with dems in control of the Senate. That's not to say his cohorts won't continue to suffer/go to jail, and I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up in front of congress, but he ain't going anywhere as things stand now. Even if impeachment proceeding are somehow actually started, a GOP Senate will not convict.

I think he will be impeached if it is proven that he laundered Russian oligarch money combined with quid pro quo from the Magnitsky Act stuff. That's concrete and even this legislature won't stand for that.

 

[Joe]

He's talking about it like it's a heisman trophy or a super bowl ring

 

[LangfordBarrow]

This is so fucking bizarre...its like reality TV for Trump

Does anyone doubt he'd love to be a dictator? He has no respect for the separation of powers.

 

[waiguoren]

I think the most likely scenario is Trump starts issuing pardons on people close to him (Paulie and Donny Jr) and then Congress wakes up.

AV bet that Trump doesn't pardon Don Jr.

I gave example of what could happen based on what we know, I don't know what's going to happen and I'm not going to feign certainty like you.

People can read the quoted exchange above.

You said "the most likely scenario" is that Trump pardons at least two people "close to him", and then listed the names of two people.

Do you still believe Trump will pardon two people "close to him" as part of his response to the Mueller probe, or did you already change your mind?

 

[waiguoren]

Unfair wording, Mueller can't indict Trump because Trump is President. You should change that to "Mueller won't recommend impeaching Trump for any charge"

Whether the president can be indicted is an open question, not settled.

You prefer "Mueller won't recommend impeaching Trump for any charge." Willing to put your AV up on the opposite side of that?

 

[Limbo Pete]

I think he will be impeached if it is proven that he laundered Russian oligarch money combined with quid pro quo from the Magnitsky Act stuff. That's concrete and even this legislature won't stand for that.

Not if the GOP controls the Senate

 

[Strychnine]

I think he will be impeached if it is proven that he laundered Russian oligarch money combined with quid pro quo from the Magnitsky Act stuff. That's concrete and even this legislature won't stand for that.

I don't know Fawlty... I think that a lot of people in Congress wouldn't go for impeachment even if they saw him curb stomp a baby..

They fall for this ^ and think of him like he's dang near Holy.