Mid-air Collusion (Mueller Thread v. 19)

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

The whole "he should have recused himself because he was biased" bit is never brought up when FBI agents are cutting corners and supsending civil rights when they're trying to catch Muslims.

Can you cite an example of this, out of curiosity?

 

[Falsedawn]

Tho

Those people no longer work for the government. Why should they maintain a clearance?

Imagine if you were the new guy in the job, and for some *inconcievable* reason you needed to call the old guy for advice on how things work. It's a specialized job, can't exactly google it.

Oh wait, the old guy can't talk about it because you sewed his mouth shut. Smart.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Imagine if you were the new guy in the job, and for some *inconcievable* reason you needed to call the old guy for advice on how things work. It's a specialized job, can't exactly google it.

Oh wait, the old guy can't talk about it because you sewed his mouth shut. Smart.

And if he does talk about it, you can call him an immoral deep state thug that blabs secrets and deserves to be run out of town

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

And if he does talk about it, you can call him an immoral deep state thug that blabs secrets and deserves to be run out of town

This administration is so stable...

 

[Ophydian]

This administration is so stable...

The most stable. I’ve never seen a more stable government, it should go down in history as the most stable.

 

[Ophydian]

Idk, does it require a clearance to have dinner with the POTUS in the WH?

No because he can just declassify everything. I think Hannity now has a higher clearance than most X senior advisors.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

No because he can just declassify everything. I think Hannity now has a higher clearance than most X senior advisors.

This is the most bizarre WH since Krusty got elected

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Is there any doubt trump has an enemies list? Especially anyone who questions him on russia and flynn?

I don't think it's a blacklist. It's the group he needs to pin this "witch hunt" on. They're the "bad" "deep state" actors that are responsible for all the "lies" about him.

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

This is the most bizarre WH since Krusty got elected

Maybe this will make more Murkans re-examine just how precarious their 'democracy' really is...

 

[BangersAndSmash]

Can you cite an example of this, out of curiosity?

https://www.aclu.org/other/unleashed-and-unaccountable-fbis-unchecked-abuse-authority

"The 2008 report on Section 215 of the Patriot Act revealed a
troubling incident in which the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court rejected an FBI request for a Section 215 order on First Amendment grounds, but the FBI General Counsel ignored this opinion and authorized the issuance of NSLs, which do not require judicial approval, to obtain the same information."

In other words, the FBI didn't like a court order so they went down a different avenue to get the same information the court would have denied them.

In 2005, the IG audited the FBI's compliance with the Attorney General's guidelines and found at least one violation in 87% of FBI informant files, and found that 53% of FBI preliminary inquiries were extended beyond the authorization period without the proper paperwork to authorize the extension.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Maybe this will make more Murkans re-examine just how precarious their 'democracy' really is...

It isn't. We'll survive him.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Imagine if you were the new guy in the job, and for some *inconcievable* reason you needed to call the old guy for advice on how things work. It's a specialized job, can't exactly google it.

Oh wait, the old guy can't talk about it because you sewed his mouth shut. Smart.

Do you really think Trump could put his petty vindictiveness aside even for the sake of national security? Not when someone has said something "bad" against him. I guess some of you guys are too young to remember when Trump went to WAR... with Rosie O'donnell.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Do you really think Trump could put his petty vindictiveness aside even for the sake of national security? Not when someone has said something "bad" against him. I guess some of you guys are too young to remember when Trump went to WAR... with Rosie O'donnell.

Presumably too young to remember lifelong Democrat DJT gave tons of money to the DNC and the Clintons specifically.... and they were at his 2005 wedding.

 

[Joe]

This gonna be good. Sounds like an innocent man obviously

 

[Joe]

if trump goes down he's going to take as much he can with him. Its going to be like a child forcing his mom to drag him back to the car or room

 

[Joe]

Interesting read on this.

3. The Inherent Article II Authority Option

That leaves the final option: The president could claim the inherent constitutional authority to revoke the clearance eligibility of each of the individuals without any due process. There is no precedent for such an action, as no president (at least as far as I am aware) has ever personally intervened in the clearance revocation (or approval) of an individual. That has never happened before because past presidents—whatever their flaws or scandals—knew there were certain institutional norms and customs that a president simply should not disturb.

Trump, though, is not burdened with an affinity for respecting institutional norms. He already bulldozed those norms when it came to hiring his daughter and son-in-law, refusing to place his assets in a blind trust, and refusing to disclose his tax returns. What is to stop him from running over another norm?

If the president were to take this unprecedented exercise of his authority, it is anyone’s guess how the courts would construe the issue. It would set up a serious clash of constitutional questions between the inherent authority of the president regarding classified information, the procedural due-process rights of clearance holders under the Fifth Amendment, and the extent to which the judiciary is even permitted to rule on the matter.

As the president would say, we’ll just have to wait and see.

 

[Joe]

So uh trump now saying Russian investigation is the reason for Brennan losing his clearance. Lol this is incredible.

 

[computer fogie]

Presumably too young to remember lifelong Democrat DJT gave tons of money to the DNC and the Clintons specifically.... and they were at his 2005 wedding.

He sure liked Hillary a lot in 2008:

 

[second sight]

He sure liked Hillary a lot in 2008:

And hillary loves Kavanaugh and Gorsuch

 

[computer fogie]

And hillary loves Kavanaugh and Gorsuch

And uranium, don't forget uranium.