Media Michael jai white need a ego check

[Iroh]

This thread still going strong, huh?

 

[Kb7]

Lol

Forever a hater since day 1

What a sad life that must be. Embodying such lowly energy.

Nah, my life is good. Real good.

I’m not the one here bullying people, direct messaging people, belittling them because of the contrast of opinions.

If anyone is a hater here it’s you & you prove it time and time again.

You have no respect for anyone else opinion or views as prominent in this thread.

I’m going to stop because you seriously have issues.

 

[315MMAFighter]

A swift KTFO of White would do him alot of good I'm thinking

 

[Dana's Moonface]

What have you seen them do to reach that conclusion?

Fight for world title in boxing and European champion

The other guy wbc International champion and was top 20 ranked mw

 

[Fukkup]

Bud, I've literally given like 6 10+ paragraph responses on the prior pages.

This person was suggesting I was biased and all this shit but wasnt quoting or referencing anything.

It's called simple debate etiquette.

If you have an issue with what I'm saying, claim that I'm biased or whatever, then quote and reference specifically what it was you disagreed with, where you believe I'm being biased or short sighted and we can discuss it.

This person 10-8'd himself. You can't casually glance over dozens of paragraphs and points made then ask someone to explain themselves. Again.

I dont believe everyone is dumb to me whatsoever. I dont believe I have some magic eye that makes me some sort of enlightened being.

This is a matter of some people just not having basic fight IQ and ability to discern talent more than me demonstrating anything special.

If someone cant see the skill and talent as a a martial artist that MJW possesses, there is a glaring hole in their understanding of this game.

You have avoided debating me completely, which is there for all to see.

You think writing 10+ paragraphs automatically makes your post credible ? I pointed out your bias, which you refused to acknowledge until I directly quoted numerous times. You then claimed to not have time and here you are posting away and ignoring my point.

You keep misusing the phrase fight IQ also. You claim to be an unbiased critical thinker yet your evidence for MJW is that you can see how good he is by subtle movements that only someone with your "fight IQ" can see etc. A completely biased opinion.

I've included some of your quotes subsequent to our last debate, that you ran from, where you once again display complete bias or just opinion without any facts

If you have a special eye, fight IQ or whatever other bullshit you are spouting you cannot prove it at all. My counterpoint is my special eye says MJW is dogshit at striking, because the subtleties of his movement tell me he's got slow reflexes and bad timing.

I honestly think that last bit will go over your head unless I point out I am not being serious, just showing how your logic is nonsense.

he has a very strong aura of arrogance / confidence about him

and when he isn't actually competing, it's easy to question or be suspect of it.

But I think he has that confidence for a reason.

he's been in there with high level mma guys. He would know how he stacks up better than anyone.

Like when he spoke about the prospect of fighting Perry, he just had this certainty that if it happened that he would hurt him and didn't want to waste his time or whatever..

which again, to the average onlooker might sound sketchy, but I think he is just very aware of how he stacks up.

Maybe

There's a few traditional martial artists where you just feel they're pussies and can't truly throw down.

JKVD comes to mind.

my feel on MJW is that he isn't like that. I think he could throw down if the situation arose for it.



Like on the street for example. When you have skills and can fight, people sort of unconsciously know that you could bust it out if need be. it's weird. Like some kind of psychic knowing or something, lol. I can't explain it but people just know. it's in ur aura or something. It's why I've never actually gotten into a fight outside the gym.

If you a martial artist / fighter you prob know what I mean.

that's kinda the vibe I get. Like, I'm no pussy. I can fight. But I wouldn't wanna fuck with him.

I could be wrong. Sounds like wild speculation on my end but my feel for this kind of thing is generally pretty on point lol

wouldn't call it special, no.

I believe anyone worth their salt can tell you a lot about someone from little though.

I know boxing well enough where I can paint a very good picture with very little footage. It doesn't take much to have some idea of where a person stands

Even the way someone throw a jab can speak volumes

It wasn't necessarily that what he was showing was super impressive, it's that whatever person does, regardless how big or small, exposes some of their real skillset.

On the surface level you're right, but glimpses of your true ability will always slip through the cracks if you pay close attention.

Also, Nowhere have I ever argued fight aptitude. Only skills. what he has demonstrated on paper.

 

[Ideanudge]

Do people really have a hard time separating movie actors from legit fighters???

 

[MescalineDreams]

Nah, my life is good. Real good.

I’m not the one here bullying people, direct messaging people, belittling them because of the contrast of opinions.

If anyone is a hater here it’s you & you prove it time and time again.

You have no respect for anyone else opinion or views as prominent in this thread.

I’m going to stop because you seriously have issues.

sure I do

I just had a nice little chat with strangertogod

pretty respectful

Amazing the difference it makes when you're talking to chill, smart people.

If you're a reasonable, thinking, open minded person, generally we will get along pretty easily.

I have love and respect for a lot of people here. They're just a minority.

I don't have any respect for clowns. Pay close attention to precisely who I'm "belittling" or "hating" on. It's not for no reason.

And bro. You're always looking for a reason to chime in and jump in on the group think energy. You always go with the majority, like the little follower you are.

you are the literal definition of someone that embodies that hater energy. learn the meaning.

I show respect to people who deserve it.

and trust me, your issues are infinitely worse.

 

[Kb7]

sure I do

I just had a nice little chat with strangertogod

pretty respectful

Amazing the difference it makes when you're talking to chill, smart people.

If you're a reasonable, thinking, open minded person, generally we will get along pretty easily.

I have love and respect for a lot of people here. They're just a minority.

I don't have any respect for clowns. Pay close attention to precisely who I'm "belittling" or "hating" on. It's not for no reason.

And bro. You're always looking for a reason to chime in and jump in on the group think energy. You always go with the majority, like the little follower you are.

you are the literal definition of someone that embodies that hater energy. learn the meaning.

I show respect to people who deserve it.

and trust me, your issues are infinitely worse.

Geez, get help.

I’ve had 3 conversations with you in the time you been here. One was for calling you out for randomly bullying someone in thread where their response was nothing to do with you.

Two. Was for saying it’s your opinion on Diaz’s boxing, where you lashed out calling me and everyone else nobodies who don’t know boxing. Lol.

3. Is this thread where I must say I kinda tried troll a little, which I guess triggers you when your training background and credentials gets questioned.

Now with that said, look at the fucking state of you. You drunk or ill or something? You were messaging me last night out of nowhere with your elitist antics and narcissism. I swear man, you have issues, deep rooted issues. I told you I don’t like playing Touch Butt with messages man so stop and go about your way. You weirdo.

 

[Kb7]

@MescalineDreams
Get this thread back on track and reply to @Fukkup post.

I know you’re typing out a book replying to post above.

 

[MescalineDreams]

You have avoided debating me completely, which is there for all to see.

You think writing 10+ paragraphs automatically makes your post credible ? I pointed out your bias, which you refused to acknowledge until I directly quoted numerous times. You then claimed to not have time and here you are posting away and ignoring my point.

You keep misusing the phrase fight IQ also. You claim to be an unbiased critical thinker yet your evidence for MJW is that you can see how good he is by subtle movements that only someone with your "fight IQ" can see etc. A completely biased opinion.

I've included some of your quotes subsequent to our last debate, that you ran from, where you once again display complete bias or just opinion without any facts

If you have a special eye, fight IQ or whatever other bullshit you are spouting you cannot prove it at all. My counterpoint is my special eye says MJW is dogshit at striking, because the subtleties of his movement tell me he's got slow reflexes and bad timing.

I honestly think that last bit will go over your head unless I point out I am not being serious, just showing how your logic is nonsense.

Lol, I addressed other people before you because they actually have a brain and understand fighting.

You've been talking out your ass for as long as I've known you

Remember that hydroxycloroquine thread. Where you felt the incessant need to chime in, even parrot the mainstream narrative in spite of doing no research on the topic whatsoever.

that's you.

You don't even care about the truth. Just want to perpetuate some shitty narrative in your distorted, small minded version of reality.

You literally spent the last few pages making incoherent posts, not even clarifying what your points were or what you took offense to.

You've been attempting to sound intelligent and coming off as tryhard, forced and failing miserably.

your ability to construct a clear, concise and articulate argument is comically bad.

it's very clear to see that I've been speaking some truth in these last few pages. If you understand anything about fighting, it should be clear what MJW is bringing to the table skill wise.

The question is whether that he has the ability to take a punch. he has that warrior mentality. he has that toughness. That is he question, not his skills.

I provided a lot of evidence which paints a picture of his skillset, style, strengths and highlighted the overall bigger picture of what he brings to the table as a martial artist.

The evidence is there, it simply requires a person to understand boxing. To understand striking. To understand footwork and movement. To understand the subtle hip, core, shoulder and feet rotations into each strike. To understand the ideal head position and movement upon each strike thrown.

It requires a person to take heed to testimony like Rogan, who understands more about elite kicking game than 99% of humans on the planet. Who personally attested to his elite Kyokushin prowess.

Even things like movies. Yes, they're choreographed and the unrealistic shit should be ignored. But the techniques being demonstrated are very real.

The short clip against Machida was not choreographed. They were just flowing, playing. However, it painted a picture of the kind of attributes and style you could expect from him. Much in line from what we've seen from traditional martial artists like Machida and wonderboy who made it to the top of their respective divisions.

emphasis on things like elite distance control, ability to fight and counter off the back foot, countering prowess, movement, balance and footwork, etc.

Sometimes evidence doesn't come in the most obvious form. We are left to our own devices.

My logic is using every piece of information at our disposal to form a clear picture of where he stands as a martial artist.

ultimately this relies on someone understanding all the things I've mentioned.

If you don't understand the game, you aren't going to see the truth in what I say.

and that's the reality here. many of you guys simply don't seem capable of watching, discerning and getting a feel for someone a skills from footage. Which indicates to me that very few of you understand much about boxing, striking, movement and a whole host of other attributes that make up a quality martial artist

This isn't about me having some magic eye. Literally show the same footage to anyone in a decent boxing / striking gym and they'd say the same things I have. It's called having fight iq and the ability to recognize skills.

It's not about me being special. it's about many of you guys just not understanding what you're watching.

Like I said before, you don't care about the truth. You just want to right. You're just being a contrarian when in reality you probably don't understand half the shit being said. Why else would you ask me to repeat / explain myself and articulate my position. You don't even understand the points being made.

no different than that hydroxycloroquine thread

 

[MescalineDreams]

Geez, get help.

I’ve had 3 conversations with you in the time you been here. One was for calling you out for randomly bullying someone in thread where their response was nothing to do with you.

Two. Was for saying it’s your opinion on Diaz’s boxing, where you lashed out calling me and everyone else nobodies who don’t know boxing. Lol.

3. Is this thread where I must say I kinda tried troll a little, which I guess triggers you when your training background and credentials gets questioned.

Now with that said, look at the fucking state of you. You drunk or ill or something? You were messaging me last night out of nowhere with your elitist antics and narcissism. I swear man, you have issues, deep rooted issues. I told you I don’t like playing Touch Butt with messages man so stop and go about your way. You weirdo.

I just happen to think you're basic as all hell and aren't that bright

You talk way too much shit for what you bring to the table. Which isn't much.

I'm not "bullying" anyone. I pay attention to the intelligence behind the people who post. In many cases, if I'm calling someone out, it's because they have a history of saying stupid shit.

From your end it seems random, but no. There is purpose.

it's pretty well established that most people here are really dumb. You get pretty offended and start defending whoever I call out, which speaks volumes about which side you operate on. You defend mediocrity and shitty thinking because you embody it.

 

[Kb7]

I just happen to think you're basic as all hell and aren't that bright

You talk way too much shit for what you bring to the table. Which isn't much.

I'm not "bullying" anyone. I pay attention to the intelligence behind the people who post. In many cases, if I'm calling someone out, it's because they have a history of saying stupid shit.

From your end it seems random, but no. There is purpose.

You’re smart with IQ of 140. Figure it out.​

 

[Fukkup]

You’re smart with IQ of 140. Figure it out.​

Yeah I'm done with this clown. The only reason I ever engaged him previously was because he was very abusive towards other posters.

I have noticed that a lot of well established posters seem to tolerate if not like him but are nowhere to be seen when he goes off on one. Someone needs to challenge him but it is draining as fuck.

 

[Fukkup]

Lol, I addressed other people before you because they actually have a brain and understand fighting.

You've been talking out your ass for as long as I've known you

Remember that hydroxycloroquine thread. Where you felt the incessant need to chime in, even parrot the mainstream narrative in spite of doing no research on the topic whatsoever.

that's you.

You don't even care about the truth. Just want to perpetuate some shitty narrative in your distorted, small minded version of reality.

You literally spent the last few pages making incoherent posts, not even clarifying what your points were or what you took offense to.

You've been attempting to sound intelligent and coming off as tryhard, forced and failing miserably.

your ability to construct a clear, concise and articulate argument is comically bad.

it's very clear to see that I've been speaking some truth in these last few pages. If you understand anything about fighting, it should be clear what MJW is bringing to the table skill wise.

The question is whether that he has the ability to take a punch. he has that warrior mentality. he has that toughness. That is he question, not his skills.

I provided a lot of evidence which paints a picture of his skillset, style, strengths and highlighted the overall bigger picture of what he brings to the table as a martial artist.

The evidence is there, it simply requires a person to understand boxing. To understand striking. To understand footwork and movement. To understand the subtle hip, core, shoulder and feet rotations into each strike. To understand the ideal head position and movement upon each strike thrown.

It requires a person to take heed to testimony like Rogan, who understands more about elite kicking game than 99% of humans on the planet. Who personally attested to his elite Kyokushin prowess.

Even things like movies. Yes, they're choreographed and the unrealistic shit should be ignored. But the techniques being demonstrated are very real.

The short clip against Machida was not choreographed. They were just flowing, playing. However, it painted a picture of the kind of attributes and style you could expect from him. Much in line from what we've seen from traditional martial artists like Machida and wonderboy who made it to the top of their respective divisions.

emphasis on things like elite distance control, ability to fight and counter off the back foot, countering prowess, movement, balance and footwork, etc.

Sometimes evidence doesn't come in the most obvious form. We are left to our own devices.

My logic is using every piece of information at our disposal to form a clear picture of where he stands as a martial artist.

ultimately this relies on someone understanding all the things I've mentioned.

If you don't understand the game, you aren't going to see the truth in what I say.

and that's the reality here. many of you guys simply don't seem capable of watching, discerning and getting a feel for someone a skills from footage. Which indicates to me that very few of you understand much about boxing, striking, movement and a whole host of other attributes that make up a quality martial artist

This isn't about me having some magic eye. Literally show the same footage to anyone in a decent boxing / striking gym and they'd say the same things I have. It's called having fight iq and the ability to recognize skills.

It's not about me being special. it's about many of you guys just not understanding what you're watching.

Like I said before, you don't care about the truth. You just want to right. You're just being a contrarian when in reality you probably don't understand half the shit being said. Why else would you ask me to repeat / explain myself and articulate my position. You don't even understand the points being made.

no different than that hydroxycloroquine thread

I've quoted you multiple times in two seperate posts you have yet to address. I joked about the irony being lost on you yet it is, even when its explained to you. You are a waste of time.

However I do want to say thank you for giving me my first genuine belly laugh in a long time.

'I'm 6'3" 240 you fucking nobody' was absolute gold.

 

[MescalineDreams]

Yeah I'm done with this clown. The only reason I ever engaged him previously was because he was very abusive towards other posters.

I have noticed that a lot of well established posters seem to tolerate if not like him but are nowhere to be seen when he goes off on one. Someone needs to challenge him but it is draining as fuck.

I was pretty reasonable and tried to be respectful in my post bro

You asked for a response and I gave it to you.

now you're done?

Lol, who's the clown

 

[Fukkup]

I was pretty reasonable and tried to be respectful in my post bro

You asked for a response and I gave it to you.

now you're done?

Lol, who's the clown

You honestly don't live in reality. You were neither reasonable nor respectful and never actually addressed my point in your responses.

 

[MescalineDreams]

I've quoted you multiple times in two seperate posts you have yet to address. I joked about the irony being lost on you yet it is, even when its explained to you. You are a waste of time.

However I do want to say thank you for giving me my first genuine belly laugh in a long time.

'I'm 6'3" 240 you fucking nobody' was absolute gold.

I think you must just have poor reading comprehension

I was capable of having this discussion reasonably with a few others here

Seems like every point made is just going completely over your head.

Don't know why you bother getting involved.

I know you just want to prove me wrong / challenge me. That's why I said you aren't actually interested in the truth and why you conveniently ignore any good point made..

I'm not the waste of time here. That's why I didn't even bother responding to you until now.

I knew exactly what to expect.

Just like the hydroxy chloroquine thread where actual smart people were going debating, going back and forth over various sources.

And you're just there. Agreeing with whatever mainstream source anyone brought up.

it clearly wasn't a topic you bothered to do any research on whatsoever, you were just a pest in the corner, saying nothing, contributing nothing.

no different than what you're doing now.

 

[Fukkup]

I think you must just have poor reading comprehension

I was capable of having this discussion reasonably with a few others here

Seems like every point made is just going completely over your head.

Don't know why you bother getting involved.

I know you just want to prove me wrong / challenge me. That's why I said you aren't actually interested in the truth and why you conveniently ignore any good point made..

I'm not the waste of time here. That's why I didn't even bother responding to you until now.

I knew exactly what to expect.

Just like the hydroxy chloroquine thread where actual smart people were going debating, going back and forth over various sources.

And you're just there. Agreeing with whatever mainstream source anyone brought up.

it clearly wasn't a topic you bothered to do any research on whatsoever, you were just a pest in the corner, saying nothing, contributing nothing.

no different than what you're doing now.

Yeah keep waffling on with your new pivot from the actual discussion.

 

[MescalineDreams]

You honestly don't live in reality. You were neither reasonable nor respectful and never actually addressed my point in your responses.

Bro I don't even think you know what your point is

your ability to construct anything clear and concise is embarrassing.

maybe don't try so hard to sound smart when you clearly are not and your mumbling might be understood.

 

[MescalineDreams]

Yeah keep waffling on with your new pivot from the actual discussion.

strong projection


Seems to be what you've been doing this entire thread

You literally ignore 90% of what is said

You refuse to acknowledge any point made or evidence brought forth.

I was simply highlighting that you have a documented history of talking out your ass. You're doing the exact same thing in this thread.

those isn't even about truth or arguing the point objectively for you. it's about chai!enging me, in spite of not having a clue what you're talking about.