Media Michael jai white need a ego check

[ReyesWon]

Yes, I do .

Perry is nothing as a striker.

I'm 240 pounds, but take 60 pounds off me and id smoke him. Easily.

he just isn't that good. At all.

MJW is a fucking beast as a striker and has sparred with countless elite MMA fighters, martial artists and boxers. He knows very well what these guys are capable of in a real fight.

If you're talking about pure striking, it's just an embarrassing mismatch and comical to even suggest someone like Perry would beat him.

if he used his grappling, then it becomes interesting. MJW is a black belt in Japanese jiu jitsu or whatever but it's likely that's his weak point. Perry is actually super strong and his jits is highly underrated. That's where he could make it a fight, potentially.

outside of that though, Perry would get embarrassed and easily.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

Goodbye cupcake. Be thankful the mods saved you. Get bost litch. I mean... Well you know

I accept the terms of your surrender and wish you luck going forward. Please try to refrain from imagining men on your dick and posting about it.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

Perry has beaten legitimate competion in the biggest promotion in MMA. You're more than welcome to believe that he would get beat by MJW but you sound foolish saying that without anything to back it up other than this dude has trained a long time, has good technique, and has sparred against actual fighters that we havent seen footage of

Not only that, he said without a doubt MJW would be a UFC HW.

Laughable shit.

 

[MescalineDreams]

Lesser karate fighters???? Lol. Based on what exactly?

And maybe it would be helpful if you share what you are basing his “much better boxing” on? Because none of us have seen a single second of him boxing.

Just little glimpses of him throwing jabs in his videos, the way he moves his feet, turns his hips and body into his punches, moves his head, etc.

Theres not much out there. But he definitely trained boxing in a traditional way. So, there was clearly more emphasis on training in it's pure form compared to other traditional martial artists where it tends to be the weaker aspect of their game.

 

[kflo]

None of the above as solid as I think they are would I wager on beating a 50 pound heavier willing to scrap life long trained striker. I know your analogy and have seen it play out 8n front of my eyes. There is also another analogy to consider. There are ABSOLUTELY people that train religiously at fighting and have their whole life. They are sometimes smart enough to get rich and famous other ways besides punching faces. I do not give them the honor of being considered a professional fighter. They just arent and dont care to be. Perspective is something you have to consider. If you are a 230 pound guy who trained striking slot you would have to see something pretty amazing in a 170 pound man to say, He would definitely beat my ass... Or perhaps you are weak.

He’s 6’ and 225 lbs. they are all 5’11 - 6’ and 200. They are in peak fighting condition. And they train to fight year round. They aren’t actors. They don’t care if they look like a fitness model. They are fighters. He doesn’t train religiously at fighting. He trains to look good in front of cameras. And be the brand mjw.

 

[Al Stone]

Again, you are basing this on almost NOTHING. He’s a fucking actor and you have literally ZERO footage of him showing how he can fight. You have a couple minutes of no contact exhibition and one local tournament from 33 years ago in a gym against nobodies.

Perhaps that is what you base your decision off of. You need video footage of someone sparring to believe they do. It's a silly mindset to have from my perspective but it's yours so I respect it until you state it as gospel. I've trained for a couple years and have no sparring video and neither does anyone I know. As a matter of fact there is very few instances of ANY pro releasing sparring videos as it is highly frowned on behavior. When you act is if you dont know that I gotta say I dont think you spar striking. You would know this is done for many many reasons that way and always has been. I base what I am saying off the simple knowledge that size matters. It is also based off the fact Perry is no world beater striker. It is also based off the fact that according to all available data MJW has been afforded much more extravagant training in his 30 years of martial arts. It's also based on the fact that due to MJW having no pro fights there is NOTHING a fighter could study him from. There are a ton of variables that you dont consider however you have concocted your own version of what I said not consistent with what I'm saying. Why do that when you can ask the source lol?

 

[MescalineDreams]

Again, you are basing this on almost NOTHING. He’s a fucking actor and you have literally ZERO footage of him showing how he can fight. You have a couple minutes of no contact exhibition and one local tournament from 33 years ago in a gym against nobodies.

You guys have really bad eyes and dont actually have any fight iq if you cant watch even a few minutes of this guy and know hes legit

Rogan said his kicking technique is impeccable. Perfect. That's a guy who was a national level TKD champion

But he's just an actor

If you cant even judge someone's skills by watching them for a few minutes, you have no business even having an opinion.

 

[Al Stone]

Perry has beaten legitimate competion in the biggest promotion in MMA. You're more than welcome to believe that he would get beat by MJW but you sound foolish saying that without anything to back it up other than this dude has trained a long time, has good technique, and has sparred against actual fighters that we havent seen footage of

Actually I've broken down at least 10 reasons why I fair MJW but if that's all you got from what I said that's kinda your opinion. I dare say you should'nt use words like foolish that tend to have a boomerang effect on people not equipped to use them

 

[faustian]

Hey guys Obama trained NBA with LeBron, CP3, KD, Derrick Rose, etc and none of those players talked shit about his game. Obama totally could've gone pro had he not been too busy pursuing his political career

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

You guys have really bad eyes and dont actually have any fight iq if you cant watch even a few minutes of this guy and know hes legit

Rogan said his kicking technique is impeccable. Perfect. That's a guy who was a national level TKD champion

But he's just an actor

If you cant even judge someone's skills by watching them for a few minutes, you have no business even having an opinion.

Bags don't hit back, mate.

Popping a jab, a basic pivot step, putting your hips into punches is beginner stuff.

I used to think that you did in fact train. I'm not sure anymore.

 

[Combat_Night_Official]

Actually I've broken down at least 10 reasons why I fair MJW but if that's all you got from what I said that's kinda your opinion. I dare say you should'nt use words like foolish that tend to have a boomerang effect on people not equipped to use them

Actual fights at the highest level of the sport>10 reasons from an ignorant person who doesnt train

 

[MescalineDreams]

He’s 6’ and 225 lbs. they are all 5’11 - 6’ and 200. They are in peak fighting condition. And they train to fight year round. They aren’t actors. They don’t care if they look like a fitness model. They are fighters. He doesn’t train religiously at fighting. He trains to look good in front of cameras. And be the brand mjw.

How could you possibly know something like that..

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

Hey guys Obama trained NBA with LeBron, CP3, KD, Derrick Rose, etc and none of those players talked shit about his game. Obama totally could've gone pro had he not been too busy pursuing his political career

Lmao sadly they don't get it

 

[Combat_Night_Official]

How could you possibly know something like that..

I just saw your other post where you said you could smoke perry easily. While I havent personal trained with him I know plenty of skilled people who have and let me be the first to tell you that you would absolutely get your shit pushed in. If you dont believe that I'm 100% sure we could set up a sparring match or a gym fight or bare knuckle boxing.

 

[weaselkenievil]

I wasnt necessarily suggesting MJW is a more elite karate stylist than either of those two.

I think we'd need more of an expert to comment on that. Obviously hes been training karate for like 40 years or whatever.

I would personally rate him a bit higher, just because his technique seems more polished.

But, WB and machida are without question very far from the top of the heap in their respective art. So, presumably a martial artist on a bit higher of a caliber could transition well or better, on paper of course.

Yes, presumably a martial artist of higher caliber could do well on paper. That’s fair. We won’t agree on rating them higher but if that’s just your personal feeling and not a huge claim based on fact, then fair enough. All good, thanks for the pleasant response. You didn’t claim I don’t train or call me a dummy, or make an absurd claim that can’t be backed up. All good mate.

 

[MescalineDreams]

Bags don't hit back, mate.

Popping a jab, a basic pivot step, putting your hips into punches is beginner stuff.

I used to think that you did in fact train. I'm not sure anymore.

No shit

Its a beginner video

But, if you pay attention to how someone moves, the subtleties of how they twist their body and hips into a punch, how they rotate their shoulders in unison with their entire body, center of gravity, how they move their feet, move their head, turn over their punches and even the technique itself

You can see if someone has some skill.

And from various videos, even beyond that one..you can see that he trained boxing in a traditional way, which isnt always common among traditional martial artists.

Not suggesting his hands are world beater level. Only that it seems apparantly he has more of a respect for pure boxing than you typically see.

It doesnt take much. I can watch someone for 1 minute and know if they can fight.

Could say the same thing about you bud.

You supposedly have a bunch of fights and all this experience and I don't think I've ever once heard you say anything insightful..

You only ever seem to hate on strikers. Maybe you should stick to judo

 

[kflo]

Just little glimpses of him throwing jabs in his videos, the way he moves his feet, turns his hips and body into his punches, moves his head, etc.

Theres not much out there. But he definitely trained boxing in a traditional way. So, there was clearly more emphasis on training in it's pure form compared to other traditional martial artists where it tends to be the weaker aspect of their game.

I could make that same video......lol......

 

[Bork Neslar]

Even Mickey Gall would beat the shit out of MJW.

 

[MescalineDreams]

I could make that same video......lol......

Anyone can

But you're missing the point

Like I said, some of you guys have a very poor ability to read skill

 

[Al Stone]

Actual fights at the highest level if the sport>10 reasons from an ignorant person who doesnt train

At the highest level is a relative term. Has he competedxfor a title? Or is he another fighter on the roster with an ok record with a few shining moments? He is an OK fighter and I really dont like him to bite my tongue. There is nothing magical or superhuman or even exceptional about Perry as a striker. If you honestly can look at the UFC HE roster 15 years ago when MJW would be in his prime and not think he would have had moderate success you would have to be smoking UFC dust. He was FAR sharper and probably as strong as Kimbo. Let's be honest here. Tank Abbott is arguably a UFC legend. I can tell you now that MJW with no pro fights has sharper mma striking than Tank. Get real. Dudes like you take the moniker pro-fighter to mean like X-men or something. There are very few 230 pound plus life long trained strikers that fear Mike Perry would batter them. Thats laughable. I would bet on MJW but 52 is kinda old but a younger MJW I would put my car up in a bet vs Perry