Media Michael jai white need a ego check

[King.]

It must've been a sucker punch or he must've been wasted out of his mind. There's no way some weight lifter could ever hope to land a punch against a former world champion boxer.

Exactly. I have trained in boxing and was the prototypical "random weightlifter". The instructors were both low level amateurs, one smaller guy and one heavyweight. I was paired with the heavyweight and he let me take shots at him while he kept his hands down and was only allowed to hit me to the body. Now granted I am no boxing prodigy but I was 20 years old at the time and the instructor must've been 40 something. It was like I was swinging at air. He let me feel like he could take me out at any second as well. Great learning experience if ever there was one.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Dude analyze the technique MJW has with his striking. It isnt pseudo science. He just isnt a dude paid to fight. It is also silly to expect him to be when comparing his salary to a pro fighter. What is irrefutable is pros acknowledge training with MJW you claim they just do it to be respectful but that's you being dismissive when pros damn sure arent claiming to be training with these other actors. Unless you count the Andrrson and Segal fiasco which was clearly a joke. MJW is the most trained straight up Hollywood dude and he's huge. He would beat the shit out of Perry

You think every dude with pretty striking technique in movies can actually fight? There are a lot of people out there that can do crazy looking kicks that couldn't win a pro fight lol

What pros have acknowledged him as actually being competitive w/ them in sparring?

 

[King.]

Best post i have seen on him

Well goddamn. I have to agree. That's a nugget in a pile of shit

 

[Bruce Lee666]

You think every dude with pretty striking technique in movies can actually fight? There are a lot of people out there that can do crazy looking kicks that couldn't win a pro fight lol

What pros have acknowledged him as actually being competitive w/ them in sparring?

was there a famous fighter who tried to prove himself in ufc? not exist.

they would be humiliated,and lost the reputation of good fighters that they have in fake movies.

 

[Rented Gucci Mink]

MMA nuthuggers in 2020 are still thinking that a having the title of being a pro fighter automatically means they can fuck up anyone who isn’t lol like the biggest can in the world with no wins and only losses but has a bit of training and is a “pro fighter” would too much for for the average person to handle lol like Mighty Mouse couldn’t possibly get ragdolled or slept by a large security guard with 0 training.

 

[Hotora86]

You're not telling me anything I don't already know, dude. Wonderboy is probably my favorite fighter. And Michael Jai White's primary "base" is Kyokushin, an art no one can accuse of not having plenty of full-contact competition in it by nature. Speaking of Kyokushin, I have defended the merits of "clicker" competition on r/Kyokushin for its ability to develop timing, distance, speed, etc. in karateka. There is an active bias against "tip-tap sparring" (bad choice of words on my part; I never meant to use "tip-tap" in a derogatory sense -- perhaps I should have said "friendly sparring") in the U.S. Kyokushin scene I've noticed. Less so in the Commonwealth nations. It goes without saying that sport karate can be effectively cross-trained into an effective striking base. It's been done by plenty of people. Has MJW put in that requisite work? Who knows? But he sure does look good on the big screen which in his career field is all people care about.

I'm not saying that Michael isn't capable of landing or even absorbing a hard shot. What I'm saying is that I doubt his ability to do both while not gassing out against an experienced professional fighter who is known to be able to take a shot in order to land a few of his own and is all too willing to take the fight to the ground where MJW is out of his element. While his experience in point karate and full-contact karate would both be useful -- and they can be combined to hold his own infinitely better than an Average Joe would in a hypothetical fight against Perry -- I'm not convinced that he has the stress inoculation to prevent himself from folding under the kind of pressure Platinum can bring, particularly in a full-on MMA bout.

That's fair, no disagreements here.

If Perry comes in with a good gameplan (gas MJW out and/or take him to the ground) he probably wins easily. Perry is Perry tho and fight IQ is not his biggest asset.

 

[Hotora86]

was there a famous fighter who tried to prove himself in ufc? not exist.

they would be humiliated,and lost the reputation of good fighters that they have in fake movies.

Well, if we're talking TV stars who went into MMA then there's The Green Ranger from Power Rangers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_David_Frank

Black belt in a bunch of TMAs (2 Karate styles, TKD, Judo), he went 4-0 in ammy MMA and 1-0 in pro MMA.

Not saying this guy could hang in the UFC, just that he actually took all that TMA experience and competed successfully under MMA rules.

Yes, he beat a bunch of cans but he sorta disproved the common notion that "that TMA shit won't work in the cage", which so many MMA fans still hold today, despite seeing TMA-based guys rise to the very top once in a while.

 

[Bruce Lee666]

MMA nuthuggers in 2020 are still thinking that a having the title of being a pro fighter automatically means they can fuck up anyone who isn’t lol like the biggest can in the world with no wins and only losses but has a bit of training and is a “pro fighter” would too much for for the average person to handle lol like Mighty Mouse couldn’t possibly get ragdolled or slept by a large security guard with 0 training.

Royce destroyed giant guys with jiu jitsu,it was proven in real life.


yes a ufc fighter could easily put a giant with 0 training to sleep...

 

[Bruce Lee666]

Well, if we're talking TV stars who went into MMA then there's The Green Ranger from Power Rangers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_David_Frank

Black belt in a bunch of TMAs (2 Karate styles, TKD, Judo), he went 4-0 in ammy MMA and 1-0 in pro MMA.

Not saying this guy could hang in the UFC, just that he actually took all that TMA experience and competed successfully under MMA rules.

Yes, he beat a bunch of cans but he sorta disproved the common notion that "that TMA shit won't work in the cage", which so many MMA fans still hold today, despite seeing TMA-based guys rise to the very top once in a while.

this guy would be easily destroyed in ufc ...

 

[Rented Gucci Mink]

Royce destroyed giant guys with jiu jitsu,it was proven in real life.


yes a ufc fighter could easily put a giant with 0 training to sleep...

My post went right over your microscopic head.

Just LOL at you thinking you had the big brain rebuttal with pictures and all to boot. Triggered nithugger is tiggered

 

[Beastos]

I'm 6'3 240 u fucking nobody

far from fat.

I've also trained under a pro boxer and been boxing / striking for over a decade.

Perry is shit. Plain and simple. There's nothing impressive about being able to beat him.

any decent boxing gym is full of fighters who provide an infinitely greater challenge them that dude.

I'm pretty easily one of the smarter people on this site. some clown who gets shit on in every single debate you've ever had with me has no business calling me dumb.

projection at its finest. You haven't said one intelligent thing in any post you've ever made.

6' 3? Most of us are 6'5 the you dwarf

 

[Cpt Migraine]

if Wilder trains defensive TDD,learn to defend kicks, start learning jiu jitsu he kills any HW on the planet in mma.

his striking level is way above any mma fighter.

Yeah it's strange really.. the striking of the hw boxing champion is way above that of those in a completely different sport..

If i learn the boxing skill of lomachenko, the tdd of aldo, the kicking game of barboza, the wrestling of khabib, work cardio like colby, have romeros chin, the heart of elkins, the fight iq of jones, the submission game of hall i'll kill any ww on the planet..

There are a lot of ifs my man.. look up fury wrestling with darren till.. there is a lot of work before stopping someone like dc..

 

[Th3Sav4ge]

like half of this thread is people replying to other poster(s) i have ignored. makes it look like people yelling at air. yall feeding them trolls hard

also, spawn is to old to compete.

 

[Al Stone]

You think every dude with pretty striking technique in movies can actually fight? There are a lot of people out there that can do crazy looking kicks that couldn't win a pro fight lol

What pros have acknowledged him as actually being competitive w/ them in sparring?

Let me help you here so you can stop saying dumb shit and one day redeem yourself from this lashing. Take a good solid look at the UFC HW roster from UFC 1 to now. I bet you dont think Mike fucking Perry would definitely beat up a single fighter. That's reasonable. Now let's look at Michael Jai White. A lifelong martial artist with a background similar to a Wonderboy. The size of fucking Kongo. Are you stupid enough to believe he wouldn't have made the UFC roster lol? Clearly he could very easily have been on the UFC roster as a HW. So how the fuck does it make sense Mike Perry would beat MJW? You dont even make sense using your own logic.

 

[Al Stone]

like half of this thread is people replying to other poster(s) i have ignored. makes it look like people yelling at air. yall feeding them trolls hard

also, spawn is to old to compete.

Says the person talking to themself

 

[The Chosen]

Let me help you here so you can stop saying dumb shit and one day redeem yourself from this lashing. Take a good solid look at the UFC HW roster from UFC 1 to now. I bet you dont think Mike fucking Perry would definitely beat up a single fighter. That's reasonable. Now let's look at Michael Jai White. A lifelong martial artist with a background similar to a Wonderboy. The size of fucking Kongo. Are you stupid enough to believe he wouldn't have made the UFC roster lol? Clearly he could very easily have been on the UFC roster as a HW. So how the fuck does it make sense Mike Perry would beat MJW? You dont even make sense using your own logic.

If you’ve never competed you can’t say shit, if he wanted to be such a badass he should have competed. A 50+ year old man who’s never competed against a young pro fighter... and you’re considering the 50+ year old man.

 

[The Chosen]

Some of you dudes with your post a video mindset are retarded. Here is a video image for your dumb ass. Kimbo would have battered Mike Perry off physicality alone what the fuck do you think a FAR MORE SKILLED striker than Kimbo would do to Perry dummy? Unless you seriously think Perry is that good he runs through HW skilled strikers with ease. In which case clown you show me a video of that. Pfft dude just isnt particularly good.

You’re really bringing up Kimbo Slice being able to beat a UFC fighter... wtf am I reading here.

 

[Th3Sav4ge]

that actor won point fighting titles in hs gyms in the 80s bro......obviously he'd tool perry......

yeah, and he spars with pros too. dude's elite. did you see him teach kimbo on the set?

i do respect spawns credentials and know he is more than just a hollywood tough guy. but hes in his 50s man. even if his offense is still sharp as soon as he gets hit or gets tired hes gonna want out. still the only hollywood martial artit i believe could actually defend himself aside from jakie chan.

i also liked whites take on jackie. he said of all the martial artist he think jakie would fair the best in a street fight or real fight scenario. he said based on his stunt work you can tell he isnt just a conventional martial artist, and would understand the difference between a real fight and a art based tournament. where as someone like jet li while still giving him and his skills high praise, isnt exactly going to translate that into a fight. he pretty much says everyone else is steven segalling, but jackie and jet li are respectable martial artists.

Says the person talking to themself

got my ass

 

[Frode Falch]

MMA nuthuggers in 2020 are still thinking that a having the title of being a pro fighter automatically means they can fuck up anyone who isn’t lol like the biggest can in the world with no wins and only losses but has a bit of training and is a “pro fighter” would too much for for the average person to handle lol like Mighty Mouse couldn’t possibly get ragdolled or slept by a large security guard with 0 training.

Well i mean.. you will find both types on both sides.

You will find actually pro fighters with garbage skills. And you will find legit fighters who have never had a fight, all around the world in good gyms.

So your point is indeed valid. But not when we are talking about a well known UFC fighter and a Hollywood actor.

 

[weaselkenievil]

Dude analyze the technique MJW has with his striking. It isnt pseudo science. He just isnt a dude paid to fight. It is also silly to expect him to be when comparing his salary to a pro fighter. What is irrefutable is pros acknowledge training with MJW you claim they just do it to be respectful but that's you being dismissive when pros damn sure arent claiming to be training with these other actors. Unless you count the Andrrson and Segal fiasco which was clearly a joke. MJW is the most trained straight up Hollywood dude and he's huge. He would beat the shit out of Perry

Damn, you REALLY like this guy huh? You sound obsessed and outraged that nobody agrees that he’s amazing with no proof to back it up.