Michael Jai White has succumbed to telling fables on Vlad TV

Rogan does the same shit, talking about his "fighting" days. Yeah bro I did karate tournaments too, it's not that serious.
At least Rogan competed and sparred. And is very active in BJJ.

Did this MJW bitch even got punched in the face? One thing is to throw spinning fancy shit and a different one is to get smashed in the face.
 
Spawn was box office bomb. Black Dynamite is a good cult film but that's about it. Lol

regardless of any other aspects, if you've seen any of the two movies, did ya like em?

of course, they might've done poorly in theaters (if they were even released via theater,) but that's diff than like
 
At least Rogan competed and sparred. And is very active in BJJ.

Did this MJW bitch even got punched in the face? One thing is to throw spinning fancy shit and a different one is to get smashed in the face.
I tend to agree, especially after watching that boxing footage, pretty bad. Someone said he was a middle class kid, it's probably true. Middle class kids rarely make decent fighters or even put themselves into position to get hit.
 
The man was Spawn!
He didn’t just start coming off as a douchebag recently. Its his schtick
 
I tend to agree, especially after watching that boxing footage, pretty bad. Someone said he was a middle class kid, it's probably true. Middle class kids rarely make decent fighters or even put themselves into position to get hit.
I don't care if you are bad honestly. At least put yourself out there... there is a difference between knowing how to throw kicks and actually fight.

I trained kickboxing, boxing and muay thai for 20 years... I was decent at it (last time I trained was a few months ago) and I got my ass kicked a lot of times by guys less technical than me.

This dude talks the way he does because he was never humbled for real. Fuck him.
 
I tend to agree, especially after watching that boxing footage, pretty bad. Someone said he was a middle class kid, it's probably true. Middle class kids rarely make decent fighters or even put themselves into position to get hit.

What dont you like about it? Think he's a stiff?
 
What dont you like about it? Think he's a stiff?
Everything about his jab is wrong . Good speed but horrible mechanics. Maybe his martial arts punches look better just to give him the benefit of the doubt.
 
I don't care if you are bad honestly. At least put yourself out there... there is a difference between knowing how to throw kicks and actually fight.

I trained kickboxing, boxing and muay thai for 20 years... I was decent at it (last time I trained was a few months ago) and I got my ass kicked a lot of times by guys less technical than me.

This dude talks the way he does because he was never humbled for real. Fuck him.
Your right, that was very common in martial arts and honestly, even great fighters have taken on strings of patsies..

And as much as I love Bruce lee, I do think Bob Wall had a point when he said Bruce didn't fight because he didn't want to lose and as he said, they all lose. Ya, i know there are the mayweather/marciano/Jon jones' but that credential is overrated anyways. Saying someone hasn't lost is just saying they didn't meet the right guy for whatever reason. Losing is a part of fighting for 99.999 and it would have been a big part of Marciano's and Mayweather's career if they fought in different eras.
 
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37:51 say that again


What I saw in the boxing footage was he wasn't doing anything with his feet or body to make them a part of the jab. In effect, it was just an arm punch. sure, a jab isn't necessarily supposed to be a power punch but a good fighter should know how to use his entire body to ad some power to it. Textbook way I was taught was to slide the entire body into the jab. Of course there are a lot of ways and variations but I don't see much good about his jab, what he does with the gloves on is atrocious. His theorizing on telegraphing and all sounds nice and may impress the hosts there but it's just yakking.
 
What I saw in the boxing footage was he wasn't doing anything with his feet or body to make them a part of the jab. In effect, it was just an arm punch. sure, a jab isn't necessarily supposed to be a power punch but a good fighter should know how to use his entire body to ad some power to it. Textbook way I was taught was to slide the entire body into the jab. Of course there are a lot of ways and variations but I don't see much good about his jab, what he does with the gloves on is atrocious. His theorizing on telegraphing and all sounds nice and may impress the hosts there but it's just yakking.
Yeah I agree, his legs looks completely amateurish, which boils doiwn the fact that he is not a boxer.

I guarantee he would throw better hooks without all that bulk in though
 
Yeah I agree, his legs looks completely amateurish, which boils doiwn the fact that he is not a boxer.

I guarantee he would throw better hooks without all that bulk in though
the hooks were much worse.
 
Michael jai white is a actor and a martial artist with skills. He also have a ego and cocky confidence that he dont really deserve to have.

That being said: when people without any fights or other legit knowledge, discuss if a action actor are legit, then have no way to scale them..

Be it Bruce Lee, Michael jai white, van damme, or mr fatty Seagal himself, you only have two grades to put them on: completely beginner suckers, or Jon Jones level fighter..

Like.. where are all the parts in between no knowledge to the best of the best?

It dont make any sense at all.. so if we make it easy and say the scale is 1-10. Where 1 is a untrained dork, and 10 is a dominant UFC champion, my guess is that mr Jai white is probably somewhere around 5? With are are still along way from your own low number. But far far away from a real killer like bones Jones or Alex Pereira..

Get it?
 
Michael jai white is a actor and a martial artist with skills. He also have a ego and cocky confidence that he dont really deserve to have.

That being said: when people without any fights or other legit knowledge, discuss if a action actor are legit, then have no way to scale them..

Be it Bruce Lee, Michael jai white, van damme, or mr fatty Seagal himself, you only have two grades to put them on: completely beginner suckers, or Jon Jones level fighter..

Like.. where are all the parts in between no knowledge to the best of the best?

It dont make any sense at all.. so if we make it easy and say the scale is 1-10. Where 1 is a untrained dork, and 10 is a dominant UFC champion, my guess is that mr Jai white is probably somewhere around 5? With are are still along way from your own low number. But far far away from a real killer like bones Jones or Alex Pereira..

Get it?
Nah, not all the time. Pre-mma (which is what Michael is from) probably 95 percent of us didn't really do any consequential sparring, it was all theory. Amazingly, to this day, there are still people like White around, even after all the mma stuff. In my exp., most of the way martial arts was taught in earlier times made it useless or close to it. All the theorizing really is useless in a real situation because nothing works according to theory in a real situation; for anyone. Even great fighters find what works some of the time and does what they have to do to get a win but none of it works like the martial artists from our era would like it to.

We know Bruce had his share of real fights, bone on bone contact, as a kid and as an adult. He also was said to have sparred with all or most of the big names of his time and embarrassed them. Michael Jai White never will have those types of stories told about him because all he does is run his mouth.

In any case, no one is what they actually want to be which is invincible and unbeatable, no one is that.
 
Is this true what he is saying at 1:37 about what boxing coaches teaches or is he full of shit as usual?

let me listen. ok, well, he's speaking on several different things;

1. chest muscle telegraphing a punch. Different fighters look for different things, many have said that you can see the chest muscle flex before a punch, others will look for something as insignificant as the eyes widening (Holmes said that he could tell when in sparring, Ali was ready to throw by this) others will look for a drawing back of the hand. In ANY case, those same things can be used as part of a feint, you'll see a ton of boxers who fight with their hands in constant motion just so the opponent doesn't have a clue whats a feint and whats not and as far as the eyes, the eyes can lie too, you can look at a mans stomach and make him think you're punching there and go to his head.
2. Michael is speaking of pad work and what he's saying about that has it's point, a lot of padwork can be said or seen to be useless because no one fights like that, some say it's just for show. However, the people who really believe in it will tell you that it's not meant for power or any of that but just as a drill. Either way, like everything else, there are different ways of doing it. What people often criticize is how choreographed it is and say no one fights that way (true) but getting someone who throws something back even if it's a drill can't really hurt for when you have to do the real thing (my opinion).
3. As far as the lead jab, he's theorizing again but he is correct, the hand is supposed to move before anything else with the jab, it's a lead punch thus you do not want to give away anything with it and by moving the feet or body first, you're losing the ability to hide it. However, what I did not see in his boxing footage was him being able to coordinate the rest of his body into the jab. A good stiff jab has to have the whole body behind it, you have to put the shoulders hips and step into it, the idea is to push the opponent back. I saw none of that with his padwork. The only thing I saw that he had right was that the fist was the first thing to move. Anyways, as I said, even with that, the textbook way, there are a zillion variations and just about all fighters will have some method of moving their hands or their elbows before they jab. Look at tommy hearns throw his jab and he'll lift the elbow up before he throws it out, but he also feints with the tell (watch the duran fight) then you do have the pure textbook fighters like don Curry who'll do it to a t every time like i described, hands high, using his jab in textbook fashion.
 
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