MGTOW Channels Demonetized on YouTube

[Ruprecht]

Why isn't social media a utility?

What differentiates YouTube and Comcast?

Because it's not essential infrastructure. Comcast is vertically integrated, but at it's basis it's an infrastructure company.
It's the difference between treating the provision of electricity as a utility and treating air conditioning as a utility. Or the difference between treating telephone networks as utilities and treating phone sex operators as utilities.
Especially as in this case they weren't refused service, they simply weren't being paid advertiser revenue.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Because it's not essential infrastructure. Comcast is vertically integrated, but at it's basis it's an infrastructure company.
It's the difference between treating the provision of electricity as a utility and treating air conditioning as a utility. Or the difference between treating telephone networks as utilities and treating phone sex operators as utilities.
Especially as in this case they weren't refused service, they simply weren't being paid advertiser revenue.

So explain to me how cell phone carriers are utilities based on this definition.

Bet you will find yourself in some contradictions now.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Ha, this just made me question whether you could blow up a sattelite without legal repercussions if you had the ability.

Who has jursidiction over space?

 

[Ruprecht]

So explain to me how cell phone carriers are utilities based on this definition.

Bet you will find yourself in some contradictions now.

Cell phone carriers are either infrastructure providers or simply resellers of infrastructure access. No different to an ISP, electricity company or water company.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Cell phone carriers are either infrastructure providers or simply resellers of infrastructure access. No different to an ISP, electricity company or water company.

So isn't YouTube, "infastructure providers or simply resellers of infastructure access"?

 

[Ruprecht]

So isn't YouTube, "infastructure providers or simply resellers of infastructure access"?

No, that's the ISP, which the US isn't even treating as a utility anymore.
Are you going to treat every popular website, app or CaaS/SaaS as a utility when you don't even treat the provision of the internet as a utility?
Maybe IaaS such as Amazon Web Services or Windows Azure would qualify (proibably not, because it's far from essential infrastructure for individuals at this stage), but not Youtube.

 

[VivaRevolution]

No, that's the ISP, which the US isn't even treating as a utility anymore.

This is like saying the gas company can't be a utility because the gas was shipped by train.

Doesn't make much sense when put under scrutiny.

 

[Ruprecht]

This is like saying the gas company can't be a utility because the gas was shipped by train.

Doesn't make much sense when put under scrutiny.

It's nothing like that. You don't treat the internet as a utility, and yet you want social media to be a utility?
It's like saying gas providers aren't a utility, but ovens are.

 

[VivaRevolution]

It's nothing like that. You don't treat the internet as a utility, and yet you want social media to be a utility?
It's like saying gas providers aren't a utility, but ovens are.

The internet should be treated as a utility. It obviously is.

 

[tonni]

I never recall hearing about a MGTOW support group that people went to...but I dont expect a cuck like you would think anyone could be different since you handed your women over to the real men you clearly know nothing about. lol...also, if all men are sensitive then why do your female dominators keep telling men they need to get in touch with their feminine side, like you. lol...hahahaha...

MGTOW are not the "real" men. Like at all.

 

[Renard]

Is this an actual systematic thing or just this one guy's channel? So far all we see is one guy's channel.

I can see how it would be a slippery slope. I feel like one of the main things we've learned in the past decade is that when someone says "Don't worry, it won't become a slippery slope," it 100% will become a slippery slope. You accept gay marriage and before you know it they're injecting puberty blockers in children and allowing 4-year olds to pick their gender identity. They banned Alex Jones from everything, they aren't stopping at him.

 

[Sano]

Spoiler

I guess this guy is masculine in your opinion because he is sticking up for the "oppressed"...

If you don`t correlate T with masculinity i don`t know what to tell you. I guess you are living in a parallel universe.

Your agument doesn't really hold up. I know what you're getting at, but it's way more complicated than that. Picture this scenario:

A 50 year old hardworking father of two with a wife and a steady job. Is shown respect, handles his business, is the head of the family and has done well for himself.

A 18 year old gangly teenager with no job history, no authority and no self esteem.

Who is more masculine? Who has the highest Testosterone? You'll find that these two do not match up.

There's no doubt that testosterone is relevant in some way, it is after all the primary male hormone, but it's much more complex than that. Masculinity is defined in part by society. Confidence, self belief, self efficacy, autonomy, respect, ambition these could be defined as masculine traits. But so is diplomacy, being knowledgable, being a provider, taking responsibility, being supportive, lending other people a hand and so on. This is just within our current society, and again it's completely different all over the world. Saying that "testosterone" is all that matters and then adding to that, that you could actually tell just by looking at someone is far fetched. It's too reductionist.

That guy in your picture. If he's confident, supports himself, has drive and doesn't care what others think that could be defined as masculine traits for sure.

 

[VuvuzelaBzz]

There's few things more pathetic and less masculine than MGTOW or the MRM.
I don't blame advertisers for wanting nothing to do with them.

How are advocacy groups pathetic? There's certainly pathetic individuals in the MRM, but that's the case with any relatively large movement. Every group faces unique challenges, and I fail to see what's pathetic about there being advocates raising awareness and trying to mitigate them. Are the women advocating on behalf of the men in their lives who have suffered injustices on account of their sex somehow more pathetic than men arguing for the injustices some women suffer on account of their sex? Criticising any such movement's inevitable ridiculous grievances is perfectly justifiable, but labeling the entire movement as pathetic throws the baby out with the bathwater.

 

[Satur9]

Messed up, unless you take down a4k the women channels that are basically the female version of MGTOW. Why cant they preach their beliefs like the other side?

If the reverse started happening, all the jokers would be up in arms. Just let them be.

 

[deadshot138]

Your agument doesn't really hold up. I know what you're getting at, but it's way more complicated than that. Picture this scenario:

A 50 year old hardworking father of two with a wife and a steady job. Is shown respect, handles his business, is the head of the family and has done well for himself.

A 18 year old gangly teenager with no job history, no authority and no self esteem.

Who is more masculine? Who has the highest Testosterone? You'll find that these two do not match up.

There's no doubt that testosterone is relevant in some way, it is after all the primary male hormone, but it's much more complex than that. Masculinity is defined in part by society. Confidence, self belief, self efficacy, autonomy, respect, ambition these could be defined as masculine traits. But so is diplomacy, being knowledgable, being a provider, taking responsibility, being supportive, lending other people a hand and so on. This is just within our current society, and again it's completely different all over the world. Saying that "testosterone" is all that matters and then adding to that, that you could actually tell just by looking at someone is far fetched. It's too reductionist.

That guy in your picture. If he's confident, supports himself, has drive and doesn't care what others think that could be defined as masculine traits for sure.

Statistically and anecdotally, wives lower both masculinity and testosterone. Children lower it further.

 

[MilesAbove]

You finally kicked her to the curb eh?

I had to. I had to stand by my brothers and not allow these vile women to separate us with their expectations. And since my love Beyonce is their apparent leader, I had to let her go. It wasn't easy, but it was for the betterment of Mankind.

 

[VuvuzelaBzz]

Are you really an involuntary celibate if you forswear relationships with women? But bitter? Hell yeah they come off as bitter.

MGTOWs don't necessarily forswear relationships with women. To my knowledge, their core principle is not adhering to "gynocentrism". As I recall, there's some debate in their community as to whether someone can be married while still being a MGTOW, but it's definitely not a core belief of theirs that relationships with women are to be avoided, only that they shouldn't center their lifestyle around the woman they're in a relationship with. That said, there are a fair few bitter ones who have had bad experiences and have given up on relationships as a result.

 

[Sano]

Statistically and anecdotally, wives lower both masculinity and testosterone. Children lower it further.

I disagree completely on the masculinity part. Nothing more masculine than being the head of the household in my book, or rather, the leader of your tribe.

So what are you saying? Who is more masculine in my scenario?

 

[ultramanhyata]

Love how anyone defending MGTOW is not a person defending free speech, but a MGTOW member. You are such a cuck to hate MGTOW so much. I wager you three replying to me all have lost women to real men and think this is somehow going to help prevent them from doing it again. It wont. Cucks always lose their women to men that can rail them because they actually have testosterone.

Whenever a dude who has stopped trying to get laid due to his complete lack of ability to score a woman (this is the real definition of "MGTOW") gets called out on it by guys with healthy sex lives he suddenly pretends that he is actually a "MOFT" - Men Only Fucking Tens.

We're on to you, E-hag.

 

[Ruprecht]

How are advocacy groups pathetic? There's certainly pathetic individuals in the MRM, but that's the case with any relatively large movement. Every group faces unique challenges, and I fail to see what's pathetic about there being advocates raising awareness and trying to mitigate them. Are the women advocating on behalf of the men in their lives who have suffered injustices on account of their sex somehow more pathetic than men arguing for the injustices some women suffer on account of their sex? Criticising any such movement's inevitable ridiculous grievances is perfectly justifiable, but labeling the entire movement as pathetic throws the baby out with the bathwater.

They're pathetic because they joined an online support group for whinging about women and tried to make it their "masculine" identity.