- Joined
- Aug 13, 2016
- Messages
- 6,873
- Reaction score
- 1,838
"Frank Mir came into the arena looking Lesnared as fuck, but it turns out to have just been contaminated kangaroo meat."Juiced to the gills?
"Frank Mir came into the arena looking Lesnared as fuck, but it turns out to have just been contaminated kangaroo meat."Juiced to the gills?
You could have saved all those tears, go cry to momma.OK Jon.
Just wait until you're retired and no one is making any money off of you. You will be dragged through the mud just like Lance Armstrong.
You will end up broke and homeless, when all of the leeches around you abandon you. Enjoy begging for change in your 50's.
lol there is nothing left to do now but point and laugh at you.Nice tantrum...
Of course that is what drug tests are trying to prove. That is the whole point dipshit; to see if athletes have enhanced their performance via foreign substances. If running USADA like the Inquisition is the best way to have things in your eyes, then I do insist, good sir, you are an idiot. Quantity, outcome, and intent matters
But keep swinging budro
Thats true of the parent compound, but this is a metabolite of the parent compound. These can hang around much much longer than the parent compound.I thought the shorter the half life was, the more quickly it left one's system.
Thanks for replying. I’m only kind of familiar with the case, that’s completely different from Jones’, and that’s why I asked.Grant entered the UFC in August 2018
His positive sample was collected in October 2018
At the time his sample was collected and tested positive they thought the M3 detection window was a matter of months, so would have been administered by Grant either after entering the testing program, or in at the very most the year prior to joining (and they are required to disclose any prohibited substances taken in the prior 12 months when joining the UFC)
But, now they think it can be there for 18-24 months or longer, that put Grants potential administration date prior to joining the UFC, and even prior to the 12 month declaration requirement.
Had they charged Dawson with a violation then they would have had to charge Jones with one
jones is just the dumbest fighter of all time to continue to use tbol knowing he popped for it previously and knowing that it has a long detection window. but he's smart enough to mask any short or medium term metabolites and avoid any anomalous spikes in m3.lol there is nothing left to do now but point and laugh at you.
Numerous others have pointed out you are wrong. Never, and by never, I mean NEVER, has a steroid test had to find functional levels of the steroid at the time of testing for the test to be valid. ANy trace amount, ANY PRESENCE at all in the system is all that is needed and that is FACT.
You do not understand what the test is looking for and that is because you are stupid. Any fighter who is not an idiot has tried to wean off and have it out of their system prior or to cover it with masking agents. Trace amounts are what are typically found.
Winner lol"Frank Mir came into the arena looking Lesnared as fuck, but it turns out to have just been contaminated kangaroo meat."
Dana brought them that brick.
Grow a pair and go fight DC at heavyweight.You could have saved all those tears, go cry to momma.
this guy has the best arguments on the site. top notch. all he says is crybaby. bitch. and tears. i mean what else to you really need in a argument i suppose. hes gonna win arguments forever just like how JJ is going to test positive forever.Says the butt hurt crybaby bitch, keep them tears coming lil momma. \
Stay mad, fucking lol.
Ok I obviously was not clear as I don't disagree with any thing you say as I was not meaning to say they found a steroid in Jones system and my point was not about any specific.First, let me stress: I'm not overly familiar with @Couch Ninja - and what little I do know about her/him, does support the hypothesis that they're an absolute idiot.
That said....
You're incorrect in you assertion quoted above.
And they didn't find a "steroid" in Jones' sample. They DID find the long term metabolite M3.
No, no it's not a blanket "FACT".
There are some banned substances that have "threshold" and/or "decision" limits. For instance, cannabis metabolite Carboxy-THC (marijuana/weed) is not allowed 'in-competition" BUT a certain amount IS allowed "out-of-competition" (150 ng/mL=Threshold, 180 ng/mL=Decision Limit).
Of course weed is not a steroid (though, neither is the M3 metabolite that Jones pulsed), however nandrolone IS a steroid. And it's banned, but it's metabolite (19-Norandrosterone) is not a zero tolerance, it has a threshold (2.0ng/mL) and Decision Limit (2.5ng/mL) just like THC does.
I think what we're seeing is USADA screw up the handling and processes as they work through this mess, but ultimately I'd bet that turinabol's M3 metabolite will become a Threshold Substance. USADA has sanctioned 100s of Olympic athletes and this whole mess really will impact way more than just the UFC before it's all said and done.
Sorry, back on topic.... the key points I'm trying to make:
- Some banned substances have an allowable amount
- Jones tested positive for M3, the long term metabolite of turinabol, not for the steroid itself.
They said that the amount would not enhance his performance.
I think it’s clear the answer is no.Is it, or is it not illegal to have any amount of steroids/steroid metabolites in your systrm?
This is a yes or no question.
It would be good if we can put everything into an yes-or-no question.Is it, or is it not illegal to have any amount of steroids/steroid metabolites in your systrm?
This is a yes or no question.
when was it?