International MEANWHILE! Olaf Scholz' Coalition Government Capitulates in Germany

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While the world has been watching Washington, Germany is quietly going into political meltdown.

This is a very German crisis involving coalition infighting and complicated constitutional questions.

But behind the complex political wrangling, Europe’s most powerful economy has been left rudderless, at a time when economic growth has stalled and EU leaders are nervous about an impending Trump presidency.

Chancellor Olaf Scholz fired Finance Minister Christian Lindner, the leader of one of the three coalition parties, on Wednesday night. Two of Lindner's three colleagues in cabinet promptly quit, effectively breaking apart the coalition government.

Scholz now leads a minority government until fresh elections, which means ordinary business can continue.

But because he no longer has a majority in parliament, the chancellor now needs opposition support to push through anything new, including crucially the 2025 budget, which is supposed to be agreed next week.

New measures to help Ukraine or boost defence spending would also be difficult to agree without help from opposition parties.

The Social Democrat chancellor has called on opposition conservative leader Friedrich Merz to support him to push through key policies, many of which the conservatives also agree with, such as more support for Ukraine.

They met on Thursday, with Scholz appealing for "constructive co-operation on issues that are crucial for our country".

Donald Trump's victory is likely to mean less funding for Ukraine, and as Germany is second to the US in financial support for Kyiv, the onus may fall on Berlin to increase its help.

Greens Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock had just returned from a visit to Ukraine when she said the coalition collapse was "not a good day for Germany and not a good day for Europe".

Scholz wants to hold a parliamentary vote of confidence on 15 January, which would then lead to elections in March, six months before their scheduled date.

But it looks like Merz, who wants to be Germany's next chancellor as head of the Christian Democrats, is not playing ball.

He has demanded an immediate vote of confidence and snap elections in January, saying there is a range of decisions within the EU that need to be made, and that they need a functioning German government.

“We just cannot afford to have a government without a majority for several months, and then another few months of election campaigning, and then possibly another few months of coalition negotiations,” he said.

Other opposition parties have called for snap elections too.

Whenever they do happen, it's clear that campaigning season has already begun.

Germany's president has called for "reason and responsibility" to prevail, but this was a coalition collapse that was months in the making. And it was all about money.

This uncomfortable three-way coalition was pulled apart by two very different visions of how to stimulate Germany’s flagging economy.

Olaf Scholz’s centre-left Social Democrats and the Greens want to use debt to modernise infrastructure, shift to environmental energy and help industry, as well as Ukraine.

But Christian Lindner’s free-market liberal FDP is ideologically opposed to new borrowing, instead calling for lower taxes, cuts in social spending and pushing back environmental targets.

The crunch came in crisis talks this week, when it became clear that both sides were irreconcilable.

After the talks collapsed on Wednesday night, the chancellor delivered a scathing attack on his finance minister, calling Lindner egotistical and irresponsible for his unwillingness to compromise for the good of the country.

“He broke my trust too often,” said the chancellor, accusing Lindner of putting the short-term survival of his party over the welfare of the country.

Such public vitriol from a chancellor about a minister and coalition partner is unprecedented in German politics. If this was the televised public statement, just imagine what the mood was like behind closed doors.

Before the US election, Scholz allies argued that now was not the time for early elections and political instability in Germany.

But for the past year, coalition rows have regularly blown up over spending. And for voters, the bickering has become unbearable, meaning that poll numbers for all three parties have slumped.

Some argue that allowing a dysfunctional government to hobble on for another year would have led to more instability and deadlock.

There are also fears that a perceived inability of mainstream parties to govern plays into the hands of the far-right AfD and the new populist far-left BSW party.

Although the conservative Christian Democrats and their allies are well ahead in the polls, the AfD regularly comes second.

The prospect of a Trump presidency has begun to concentrate minds in Berlin. It could harm the German economy with tariffs and undermine national security by rolling back support for Ukraine.

Many have now come to the conclusion that Germany needs a united and effective government now more than ever.

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Terrible news for Ukraine, as well as European security, but more so a very bad look for Germany.

Any Germans here able to give an outline of what might lie ahead?
 
Good Lord... Same disputes, different country

Germany's president has called for "reason and responsibility" to prevail, but this was a coalition collapse that was months in the making. And it was all about money.

This uncomfortable three-way coalition was pulled apart by two very different visions of how to stimulate Germany’s flagging economy.

Olaf Scholz’s centre-left Social Democrats and the Greens want to use debt to modernise infrastructure, shift to environmental energy and help industry, as well as Ukraine.

But Christian Lindner’s free-market liberal FDP is ideologically opposed to new borrowing, instead calling for lower taxes, cuts in social spending and pushing back environmental targets.

The crunch came in crisis talks this week, when it became clear that both sides were irreconcilable.


Love to get more insight on this and how most German people feel. It's still crazy to me Germany shut down all their nuclear power. But I don't know enough about their situation to make any kind of judgement.
 
The West is now sick of being infested by third world burdens and having their bank accounts emptied to pay for fantasy net zero projects.

How sad that Britain still has half a decade of an extreme left wing government. Will it be recognisable by the time it can follow Europe and America?
 
The West is now sick of being infested by third world burdens and having their bank accounts emptied to pay for fantasy net zero projects.

How sad that Britain still has half a decade of an extreme left wing government. Will it be recognisable by the time it can follow Europe and America?

Modern labour isn't extreme left wing dude. Not by UK standards anyway.
 
The West is now sick of being infested by third world burdens and having their bank accounts emptied to pay for fantasy net zero projects.

This is a funny statement considering how many times western countries have put money into third world countries to pursue west's interests instead of letting countries do their own thing.

That being said, I will never understand how parties oppose putting money towards modernizing infrastructure. A terrible infrastructure is bad for all industries and society. I mean a good example is what happened in Cuba just a few weeks ago. Cuts in social spending is interesting too because the response from one party is to cut social programs during economic slowdown? I could be reading that wrong but that logic makes no sense.
 
The West is now sick of being infested by third world burdens and having their bank accounts emptied to pay for fantasy net zero projects.

How sad that Britain still has half a decade of an extreme left wing government. Will it be recognisable by the time it can follow Europe and America?


Hmmm... Seems like Germany is facing a similar mass migrant crisis going back a couple years. Much of this sounds familar. No wonder Germans are pissed.

Germany’s never-ending migration crisis​

A new plan to curb the influx of asylum seekers shows how Germany’s chancellor and his allies are grasping at straws.

With less than two years left in his first term and his government struggling to cope with a more than 70 percent rise in asylum applications so far in 2023, the famously subdued German chancellor has resorted to hyperbole.

“I don’t want to use big words,” a weary Scholz told reporters in the small hours of Tuesday after hammering out an overhaul of asylum rules with regional leaders, “but I think this is a historic moment.”

He may well be proved right, if only because there’s a fair chance history will mark his failure to achieve more significant reforms as the beginning of his political end.
Scholz has been trying to reduce the number of asylum seekers arriving in Germany for months, an effort many Germans perceive as increasingly urgent amid a recent outbreak of antisemitic incidents, many of which conservative politicians have blamed on migrants. A spike in hate crime towards Jews so unnerved Scholz’s coalition that Vice Chancellor Robert Habeck, who like most of his fellow Greens is a longtime champion of asylum rights, threatened to deport offenders without residency permits.

The latest package includes a laundry list of cosmetic measures, such as a plan to issue benefits to refugees on debit cards instead of cash, while making new arrivals wait longer to get on German welfare. The “new” initiative also contains familiar promises to accelerate asylum evaluations and deportations while strengthening border controls and pursuing talks with countries in Africa and elsewhere to stem the flow of asylum seekers.

Though the states got what they were really after — more money from the federal government to pay for hosting refugees — the goal of the reducing numbers remains as elusive as ever.

That’s because despite growing financial pressures and public outcry over the influx, there remains a fundamental disconnect between what Scholz’s left-leaning coalition is willing to do and what many believe the crisis demands. More radical proposals, such as establishing an annual asylum quota or shifting refugee processing and evaluations to countries outside the EU, are typically dismissed due to legal concerns, put on the bureaucratic back burner, or both.
 
Good Lord... Same disputes, different country

Germany's president has called for "reason and responsibility" to prevail, but this was a coalition collapse that was months in the making. And it was all about money.

This uncomfortable three-way coalition was pulled apart by two very different visions of how to stimulate Germany’s flagging economy.

Olaf Scholz’s centre-left Social Democrats and the Greens want to use debt to modernise infrastructure, shift to environmental energy and help industry, as well as Ukraine.

But Christian Lindner’s free-market liberal FDP is ideologically opposed to new borrowing, instead calling for lower taxes, cuts in social spending and pushing back environmental targets.


The crunch came in crisis talks this week, when it became clear that both sides were irreconcilable.


Love to get more insight on this and how most German people feel. It's still crazy to me Germany shut down all their nuclear power. But I don't know enough about their situation to make any kind of judgement.

And people will get fed up with both parties and elect the pro-Russian, fascist wannabes.

Humans are so predictable.
 
How sad that Britain still has half a decade of an extreme left wing government. Will it be recognisable by the time it can follow Europe and America?
Corbyn was extreme left and he led Labor worst defeat ever.
 
Good lord... Interesting to dig into this. The issues there have been building for years



Excessive taxation on Energy? Sound familiar California?





 
Good lord... Interesting to dig into this. The issues there have been building for years



Excessive taxation on Energy? Sound familiar California?







Mismanagement so bad you've got to consider if it's sabotage?


This also doesn't mention them shutting down all their nuclear plants to appease the greenie tards
 
That’s no surprise - this government put interests of a cocaine addict Zelensky over their own people
 
Rule 1: never trust a Russian.

Rule 2: if in doubt, see Rule 1.
Russia was a trustworthy partner supplying natural gas for Germany on time and with no issues. It was Germany’s decision to stop consuming it and then the work of the West to blow up the Nord Stream.

There’s actually a second Nord Stream pipeline available for use but Germany chooses not to.
 
Russia was a trustworthy partner

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