McGregor’s bottom game

[NicholasJBasile]

Curious what opinions are out there on this:

We’ve seen McGregor spend a lot of his time on bottom against some of the more pressure heavy wrestlers like Khabib and really take a pounding. Also has a history of being choked from behind in the khabib and Diaz fight for instance.

His top game has always been there, and he finishes quickly when he gets to control distance and then hammer his opponents out.

But I wonder where he’s spending his time in preparation for his comeback.

Love to hear your takes.

It's probably not the most popular opinion, but I've never felt his bottom game looked all that bad. He has had his bad moments for sure, but he seems to have decent fundamentals from a defensive standpoint.

 

[Deleted member 498977]

His touch butt in the park was pretty impressive

 

[markg171]

"Escaped a kimura. No, there was no illegal knee."

That's one of your exact copy and pasted quotes...just because the illegal was not effective does not make it legal. You've invalidated your own argument. Also your crush Conor stated it "smashed it in"

Conor did escape the kimura. That's what happened. The illegal knee is completely irrelevant to that and occurred 30 seconds prior in a completely different sequence.

It's a complete fandom myth you guys just invented to try and excuse Khabib simply being unable to submit Conor, largely because he never even had the proper position to begin with as Conor was successfully and legally preventing him from stepping over his head like he needed to for an actual locked in kimura.

Rather than fault Khabib's poor positioning, you instead blame a knee that occurred before the submission ever even happened.

 

[markg171]

He tried to convince the ref that Mendes wasn't doing anything in order to get a standup, while Mendes was blasting him with elbows; that's how bad McGregor is off his back.

Remind me again how they actually got back to their feet where Conor knocked him out?

Can't wait for you to incorrectly tell me Chad went for a guillotine (he went for one after Conor had already escaped, not Conor escaped during the attempt) because... why hmm? Why did, in your opinion, Chad need to go for a guillotine if as you instead posit Conor was so helpless underneath him? It's almost like that makes no sense.

Your guys opinions never make any sense and are all over the place because you can't just admit that he's not as bad as you try and project.

 

[Disconnected]

Conor did escape the kimura. That's what happened. The illegal knee is completely irrelevant to that and occurred 30 seconds prior in a completely different sequence.

It's a complete fandom myth you guys just invented to try and excuse Khabib simply being unable to submit Conor, largely because he never even had the proper position to begin with as Conor was successfully and legally preventing him from stepping over his head like he needed to for an actual locked in kimura.

Rather than fault Khabib's poor positioning, you instead blame a knee that occurred before the submission ever even happened.

Actually your Fandom is the weird one, I don't care about either fighter but literally saying it wasn't illegal then implying it didn't matter if it was makes your argument false. It was illegal, so were the toe fence grabs, the fact that he cheated and still lost to a crank and not even a choke voids your opinion with saying everyone is trying to spin it. Dude just shut up.

 

[Local Plata]

His speed on the bottom is what dictates the power coming from the top. Speed is the name of the game.

 

[F15]

He just wants everyone else to love his man crush as much as he loves him

Actually your Fandom is the weird one, I don't care about either fighter but literally saying it wasn't illegal then implying it didn't matter if it was makes your argument false. It was illegal, so were the toe fence grabs, the fact that he cheated and still lost to a crank and not even a choke voids your opinion with saying everyone is trying to spin it. Dude just shut up.

 

[markg171]

Actually your Fandom is the weird one, I don't care about either fighter but literally saying it wasn't illegal then implying it didn't matter if it was makes your argument false. It was illegal, so were the toe fence grabs, the fact that he cheated and still lost to a crank and not even a choke voids your opinion with saying everyone is trying to spin it. Dude just shut up.

You just keep doing it don't you?

You just keep inventing more and more strawmen, throwing up arguments nobody said, because you can't simply just admit that Khabib made a basic grappling mistake in attempting submission before position and so couldn't finish a locked in kimura he'd otherwise have gotten had he just secured his base first like he's supposed to.

Sad.

Once again, for all the none obsessed weirdos: Here's the actual kimura attempt where everybody can see no knee stopped it unlike you guys pretend happened, but rather Conor prevented Khabib from stepping over like he needed to and then forced his arm out of the grip.

 

[L0ki]

Dunno why some peeps are saying underrated.

The only 2 fights that come to mind where he spent a significant amount of time on his back were against Kabob and Mendes.

 

[Poirierfan]

Given recent developments I think McGregor is more about that top game, I can't see him on the bottom.

 

[Cat Biscuits]

1. Better than most expected. He did well against Mendes and Khabib.

Maybe better than you expected.

vs Mendes, he was not doing good, and only got a reversal off his back because Mendes went for a stupid sub attempt with no control. Mendes was gassed and not fully prepared for the fight. No what i'd call impressive vs a short notice opponent.

vs Khabib, how many times did Conor cheat? This thread here shows 19 times... Again, it's not impressive when you're cheating.

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...nst-khabib-herb-dean-should-be-fired.3848651/

 

[Bend NvR Break]

My respect for McGregor's grappling grew after the Khabib fight. I actually believe he a brown belt in bjj after that fight.

 

[Disconnected]

You just keep doing it don't you?

You just keep inventing more and more strawmen, throwing up arguments nobody said, because you can't simply just admit that Khabib made a basic grappling mistake in attempting submission before position and so couldn't finish a locked in kimura he'd otherwise have gotten had he just secured his base first like he's supposed to.

Sad.

Once again, for all the none obsessed weirdos: Here's the actual kimura attempt where everybody can see no knee stopped it unlike you guys pretend happened, but rather Conor prevented Khabib from stepping over like he needed to and then forced his arm out of the grip.

In what response did I say anything about losing the Kimura and how many times did you say the knee wasn't Illegal? And then you add 'sad' that is legit level trolling right there, I'll give you that. I've only stated what he did was illegal, not if it changed any course of the fight and I'll admit I chimed in that he tapped to a crank and not a choke but you've repeatedly said it wasn't illegal even after Conor said it was, and according to him seemed to be effective.

 

[Brom Bones]

Curious what opinions are out there on this:

We’ve seen McGregor spend a lot of his time on bottom against some of the more pressure heavy wrestlers like Khabib and really take a pounding. Also has a history of being choked from behind in the khabib and Diaz fight for instance.

His top game has always been there, and he finishes quickly when he gets to control distance and then hammer his opponents out.

But I wonder where he’s spending his time in preparation for his comeback.

Love to hear your takes.

I thought this was a veiled reference to liking some gay cumshot post recently.

 

[nostradumbass]

It's pretty powerful. He's what's known at the disco as a "power bottom".

 

[G10]

Hard to say, given how incredibly protected and groomed he was by match-makers throughout most of his career. Khabib was the only good wrestler/top control specialist McGregor ever fought.

I'm not counting Mendes because A.) He took the fight on less than two weeks' notice, and B.) As good of a wrestler as he was, his top control was never that great.

 

[ocfightfan]

Curious what opinions are out there on this:

We’ve seen McGregor spend a lot of his time on bottom against some of the more pressure heavy wrestlers like Khabib and really take a pounding. Also has a history of being choked from behind in the khabib and Diaz fight for instance.

His top game has always been there, and he finishes quickly when he gets to control distance and then hammer his opponents out.

But I wonder where he’s spending his time in preparation for his comeback.

Love to hear your takes.

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[Reffson]

He only gets tapped when he's exhausted. His bottom game was very good actually.

 

[Strijfy]

Except Nate had him in mount because he'd first escaped Nate's guillotine. Same with Khabib. Khabib had his back because he'd first escaped Khabib's mount.

Both Nate and Khabib transitioned with him and beat him to the position. You know, like the superior grapplers they were.

Like I said, this doesn't hold up to what actually happened. He had existing opportunities to quit before the endings and didn't take them.



Weird, cause in reality he:

• Escaped back to his feet 4 times
• Escaped a crucifix
• Elbowed Mendes so hard Mendes was the one complaining to the ref

Probably because he still successfully did things like:

• Kept Khabib to guard for an entire round
• Escaped a kimura. No, there was no illegal knee. That occurred 30 seconds before the kimura ever did, y'all just never like showing the full sequence where Khabib hadn't even begun the kimura yet
• Escaped back to his feet after getting dropped and 10-8'd for an entire round
• Escaped mount

Etc.

It's honestly weird and delusional the lengths you guys go to to discredit him, even when your fighter wins. Like, is it somehow supposed to make them BETTER that it took 4 rounds to beat such a shitty grappler? Is that actually your position? Cause that's what you imply every time you pretend he didn't successfully accomplish things defensively.

still piping in with those excuses as to why Conor got humiliated. Give it up dude, you will end up with an anxiety ulcer.

 

[markg171]

still piping in with those excuses as to why Conor got humiliated. Give it up dude, you will end up with an anxiety ulcer.

Thank you for your wonderful and in depth contribution.

Truly eye opening analysis.