McGregor’s bottom game

His defensive grappling and tdd are (or were) pretty damn good. His natural fast twitch athleticism helped him in scrambles and sprawl situations. His balance is very good too (look at him jumping on one leg against Khabib). The problem is when he runs out of gas after 2 rounds all that skill and athleticism goes out the window and he becomes easy prey and quits.
 
Assuming no troll job,

It's not bad but not great either, obviously. He's had quite a few good escapes on good grapplers, his strong core and legs help twist him out of bad spots and get up.

He has landed a few nasty elbows, that he does quite well. Gets his body and hips into it.
 
markg171 said:
Khabib wanted to prolong the beating, which is exactly why he tried so hard to finish him in round 2 with his striking, ground and pound, and submissions?

Make up your damn minds.

He also never willingly stood a whole round with Conor. He attempted his most TDs all fight in round 3, and Conor successfully defended all of them. He was forced to stand with Conor, which is the complete opposite of what you're saying.

And the illegal knee is another complete fandom myth. It occurred before Khabib ever even had the kimura, and Khabib maintained his exact same grip throughout it. It never stopped any submission. Again, Khabib tried to finish and simply failed. It's the exact opposite of what you guys try and pretend happened.
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Weird Conor admits it was illegal and was proud of it yet you decide other people can't make up their minds....

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He's good at surviving, but I have never seen him even think about attempting any submissions, or even threaten one off his back. When he wrapped Dustin's neck it was the only time I've ever seen him do any offensive BJJ. Even if you don't expect to finish, it would still be useful to at least give the opponent something to think about, but when guys get on top of him, its like the only thing they have to worry about is some weak elbows and ear strikes.

I think he'd be the type of guy to really benefit from a strong guillotine as a deterrent. He claims he has it, but...
 
SeattleFightFan said:
1. Better than most expected. He did well against Mendes and Khabib.

2. Don't worry about his comeback. If he ever attempts one, it will be worse than his last.
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Not being combative here, just curious: By what measure did he do well on bottom against Khabib? It seems to me he just got pounded on.
In fact, the only half decent thing I've seen him do on bottom was that semi-sweep he hit on Diaz (Diaz kinda just gave it up, tbh).
 
markg171 said:
Khabib wanted to prolong the beating, which is exactly why he tried so hard to finish him in round 2 with his striking, ground and pound, and submissions?

Make up your damn minds.

He also never willingly stood a whole round with Conor. He attempted his most TDs all fight in round 3, and Conor successfully defended all of them. He was forced to stand with Conor, which is the complete opposite of what you're saying.

And the illegal knee is another complete fandom myth. It occurred before Khabib ever even had the kimura, and Khabib maintained his exact same grip throughout it. It never stopped any submission. Again, Khabib tried to finish and simply failed. It's the exact opposite of what you guys try and pretend happened.
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Conor literally admitted it was illegal lol, your whole argument failed
 
Wonderfight said:
Considering McGregor was not what he used to be against Khabib (not saying he would win), his grappling in general is better than most give him credit for. When he was in his prime, he knew what he needed to do while on the back or against the cage, and he did it well for someone who has a pure striking background. Certainly was better than the likes of Poirer and Gaethje.
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His grappling was better against Khabib than Mendes. Chad was taking him down at Will until he gassed.
 
One Pneuma said:
Curious what opinions are out there on this:

We’ve seen McGregor spend a lot of his time on bottom against some of the more pressure heavy wrestlers like Khabib and really take a pounding. Also has a history of being choked from behind in the khabib and Diaz fight for instance.

His top game has always been there, and he finishes quickly when he gets to control distance and then hammer his opponents out.

But I wonder where he’s spending his time in preparation for his comeback.

Love to hear your takes.
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At the crackhouse, the bar, and the motel, and the weightlifting gym. And the locker room for injections. And on twitter for "social interaction". And with yes men telling him how not-stuck-in-the-mud he is.
 
Disconnected said:
Weird Conor admits it was illegal and was proud of it yet you decide other people can't make up their minds....

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TheMessiah said:
Conor literally admitted it was illegal lol, your whole argument failed
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Which has nothing to do with what I said. I said it had no impact on stopping the kimura like you all pretend, not that it never happened. The actual kimura attempt was 30 seconds later. It never stopped Conor from being submitted here, Khabib simply never had it. He's not even in the right position, he can't step over Conor's head for the proper leverage as Conor's right arm is correctly (and legally) preventing him.

You guys just can't accept that Khabib tried and failed a completely legal kimura as that would mean Conor's ground game can't be that bad, and so you invent all these strawmen to cover that up. Like you literally just proved by immediately skipping past what I said to instead try and argue whether or not the knee ever even happened.
 
BJJ4Tone said:
Not being combative here, just curious: By what measure did he do well on bottom against Khabib? It seems to me he just got pounded on.
In fact, the only half decent thing I've seen him do on bottom was that semi-sweep he hit on Diaz (Diaz kinda just gave it up, tbh).
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It's a fair question.

Most people thought he would get taken down with ease, controlled and whooped in minutes. When in fact it too a lot of effort to get him down, and took rounds instead of minutes to whoop him.

I saw a vid of Chael being hugely complimentary of his wrestling. IIRC his point was that out of 10 things, Chael did 9 things right and 1 thing poorly. For a non-wrestler, that's pretty extraordinary.

I didn't watch fighter analysis, but I believe there were quite a few other wrestlers expressing the same opinion, back in 18 or whenever it was.
 
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I think its mostly just that Khabib was happy to wear Conor down slowly.

He pushed much harder for an early finish on the ground vs Gaethje due to those lowkicks presenting more of a threat.
 
markg171 said:
Which has nothing to do with what I said. I said it had no impact on stopping the kimura like you all pretend, not that it never happened. The actual kimura attempt was 30 seconds later. It never stopped Conor from being submitted here, Khabib simply never had it. He's not even in the right position, he can't step over Conor's head for the proper leverage as Conor's right arm is correctly (and legally) preventing him.

You guys just can't accept that Khabib tried and failed a completely legal kimura as that would mean Conor's ground game can't be that bad, and so you invent all these strawmen to cover that up. Like you literally just proved by immediately skipping past what I said to instead try and argue whether or not the knee ever even happened.
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"Escaped a kimura. No, there was no illegal knee."

That's one of your exact copy and pasted quotes...just because the illegal was not effective does not make it legal. You've invalidated your own argument. Also your crush Conor stated it "smashed it in"
 
One Pneuma said:
Curious what opinions are out there on this:

We’ve seen McGregor spend a lot of his time on bottom against some of the more pressure heavy wrestlers like Khabib and really take a pounding. Also has a history of being choked from behind in the khabib and Diaz fight for instance.

His top game has always been there, and he finishes quickly when he gets to control distance and then hammer his opponents out.

But I wonder where he’s spending his time in preparation for his comeback.

Love to hear your takes.
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McGregor’s bottom game
I believe it is called touch butt
 
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