Opinion McConnell to donors - single-payer is "far-left experiment," let's try repeal & replace again

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  1. Trotsky

    Trotsky Gold Belt

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    Ten years saying Obamacare was the end of the world and trying to replace it. Then, when they finally came to power, they had.....absolutely nothing planned and their only proposal was for a system that increased average prices, sped up cost growth, threw millions off of coverage, and reduced coverage standards.


    Mitch McConnell's Lie-Filled Tirade Against Medicare for All Draws Cheers From For-Profit Hospital Industry
    Calling single-payer a "far left social experiment," GOP leader neglected to mention dozens of nations that spend far less for better outcomes and healthier populations
    by Julia Conley, staff writer
    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...9exIKfNXcJMOkkrQQ8oUn3kn8qgzSzVD331RJIPWuO2X0
     
  2. luckyshot

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    "This radical scheme would be serious bad news for America's hospital industry," McConnell told the gathering.

    Now, what's wrong with that statement?

    Spoiler: It's that same thing that's wrong with the phrase "America's prison industry."
     
  3. LogicalInsanity

    LogicalInsanity Free RR! Belt

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    Of all of the current "leaders" we have in government....this guy is the absolute worst...and represents everything wrong with career politicians.
     
  4. Trotsky

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    Kind of like how the Food and Drug Administration was serious bad news for the shitting into people's mouths industry.
     
  5. Tropodan

    Tropodan Silver Belt Platinum Member

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    If you like your doctor can you keep your doctor though?
     
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    Here comes the defense force.
     
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    If we have Medicare for all, and... everyone has Medicare... doctors who don't accept Medicare would be a fairly niche market...

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    Medicare is a big downgrade for most Americans though.
     
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    Pure gob shite.

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  10. kahiljabroni

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    Once again, we don't have an insurance problem or a healthcare problem. We have a problem of out of control healthcare prices that are not subject to any normal market forces. Just deciding that uncle Sam will pick up the tab for 320 mill citizens and another 30 million non citizens will only make matters exponentially worse
     
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    I lost my great personal physician two years ago when my private, company plan decided to place him out of network. But I guess that's OK. Just the way the market rolls, right?
     
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    Again you post this shit. Of course people on Medicare are happy with it, it's free for them.
     
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    ...this just in....people like free shit
     
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    McConnell is one small step above pond scum. He's the worst actor in politics.

    How do right wing voters defend the GOP's position on healthcare? They literally have no position here other than whatever increases profits of large corporations. They're even fine with the idea of your costs rising dramatically and are totally ok if you don't get covered at all. Their position is completely indefensible and if American voters weren't so partisan and poorly informed this would sink the Republican party. In a well functioning political system with a GOP that actually tried to serve the interests of regular people we would have something that looked like Rs fighting for a version of healthcare that looked like the ACA (market-based system with regulations) and the Ds fighting for medicare-for-all (or some version of that). Instead it's die, and die quickly for profits!!! vs medicare-for-all. And the losers are Americans.
     
  15. Trotsky

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    No, it's not lol

    Yeah, people like paying less and having better experiences with products and services that everyone will eventually need and use.


    If you like paying more and getting less for the fun of it, you can just pay less through our way and then spend the extra money through donations to charity.
     
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    It will cost at least as much for a single payer system. Do you think doctors will be like oh it's the government I'll give it to then free now.
     
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    Except for the fact that a single payer puts all the price bargaining power in the hands of the patients/consumers you're absolutely right, dude.
     
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    How's that exactly?
     
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    Bolded for emphasis.

    The law didn't fuck you (broadly speaking), your company fucked you.
     
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  20. Trotsky

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    Huh?

    No, it will cost less. Just like it does literally everywhere else in the world. Just as literally every analysis - even those by right-wing publications like Cato - has shown.

    Prices for healthcare insurance coverage aren't high because doctors are charging more: they are high because there is a profit interest behind private insurance and the cost of keeping afloat insurance companies' analysts, legal teams, and operations specialists is borne by the consumers.
     
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