Mayhem Vs SWAT

Ok most important question in all of this, who is taking care of gatordog? He was outside while mayhem was getting cuffed, where is the poor thing now?
 
skombolis said:
Has someone home invaded you with a gun where you having one saved your life? The way pro gun advocates talk it seems like this is a common occurrence yet I almost never read about it. I really don't care who has what in their home. Just so long as they don't come charging out and killing someone for toliet papering a tree or accidentally knocking on the wrong door. It is all the carry permits and automatic weapons I just don't see the need for. And even though having a gun inside the home is much more likely to kill a loved one than an intruder, I still think that is a personal right. Someone is way more likely to die driving a car then walking. It is their choice. But just don't start shooting other people for stupid reasons in public and i won't care who has what. Just my 2 cents anyway.
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Guns used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year -- or about 6,850 times a day. This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives. - The Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, Northwestern University School of Law

There are similar statistics from the DOJ and FBI so yes it a statsitcal fact that guns are a detterence and prevent crime. Of course they would that is just basic common sense, that someone with the ability to legally protect themselves from crime with firearm ownership can and will. Gunownership will greatly expediate self-defense and protection of property. Only slaves are disarmed.

The media has an agenda and is totally biased, see John Lott for how many stories are buried involving gun crime vs crimes stopped by gun ownership it is something like 2,000 to 1. The media is very centralized and 96% of the content is controlled by 6 people who have very strong ideologies, murdock, rothstein, esiner, etc.
 
wtf just how slow is it these days for them to send an entire brigade for ONE UNARMED MAN that didn't even commit a serious crime assuming he even did anything

like Mayhem or not you would have to be a total idiot to not find all that unecessary
 
Sad stuff. I remember the Ariel interview in which he was pretending to be a crazy irish for some movie or something.
He really looked crazy and dangerous.
I never missed a fight of him, and was rooting hard for him live against Bisping.
Sad to see this...
 
mag5585 said:
Unfortunately him being unstable is the exact reason they have to do that. It's easy to see his tweets and think oh he is acting completely rational, when in fact he hasn't and could have avoided the situation if he just let them serve the warrant.

You can predict what a stable person will do, you can't with unstable, and as much overkill as this situation is, the fact that he is unstable truly means anything can happen. They tried to do it the normal way, and he wasn't having that.
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He isnt Al-Queida. There is literally nothing he could do that would require the reponse of an APC, chopper, snipers, K9s, god knows how many officers, etc. Cops were looking for a reason to bust out their new "safety" gear.
 
JosephTessaro said:
For the record, you can't buy guns at a local grocery store. Unless the grocery store has an FFL which allows him to sell a gun with your quart of milk and cookies.

however, at your local grocery store, you can buy opium and a vest bomb, walk into a crowded market and kill 54 unarmed peaceful people because you think that is cool.
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can buy groceries and guns at walmart....
 
7437 said:
He isnt Al-Queida. There is literally nothing he could do that would require the reponse of an APC, chopper, snipers, K9s, god knows how many officers, etc. Cops were looking for a reason to bust out their new "safety" gear.
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seriously.

People can say "Mayhem is crazy" all they want, but from my perspective, he seems to be the kind of guy who would refuse to acquiesce to the warrant for several hours just to make some kind of statement about how that helicopter and SWAT team could be at the scene of a Bank of America robbery, and instead are waiting on some guy eating Hot Pockets in his apartment or wherever.
 
I had a buddy like Miller.

He always had a million reasons why he was getting screwed or why whatever trouble he appeared to be in was bullshit, then he was always 'sorry' in hindsight. Often he seemed like a rational guy, and that he deserved to be stood up for. "He's harmless" we'd say. He was super funny, and its not like he's intentionally fucking up right?

The fact is that while there may have been other ingredients to each of the situations, he was the consistently present element. He either sparked it, amplified it, or both...every time.

Eventually his actions cost another friend (one who always stood by him) his life. A huge group of friends was ripped apart, couples broke up, others got together (that turned out miserable), the family turned into a bunch of shut-ins, people gave up pursuits and careers...and it all traces back to that event.

That's the potential price of giving second, third, and fourth chances to people who don't deserve it.
 
Bmurray said:
I had a buddy like Miller.

He always had a million reasons why he was getting screwed or why whatever trouble he appeared to be in was bullshit, then he was always 'sorry' in hindsight. Often he seemed like a rational guy, and that he deserved to be stood up for. "He's harmless" we'd say. He was super funny, and its not like he's intentionally fucking up right?

The fact is that while there may have been other ingredients to each of the situations, he was the consistently present element. He either sparked it, amplified it, or both...every time.

Eventually his actions cost another friend (one who always stood by him) his life. A huge group of friends was ripped apart, couples broke up, others got together (that turned out miserable), the family turned into a bunch of shut-ins, people gave up pursuits and careers...and it all traces back to that event.

That's the potential price of giving second, third, and fourth chances to people who don't deserve it.
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I hear that, a mates pretty similar and he's life is pretty well screwed...wouldn't be suprsied to hear his topped himself one day but I got to keep myself distanced from him, very self destructive and blames everyone but himself.
 
It's a shame that we use our prisons to house our mentally ill instead of treating them in proper facilities. I hope that Mayhem can get the help he needs.
 
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