Max Should Be the Number 2 Ranked Lightweight Right Now, Right?

[dipstickjimmy]

The only reasonable excuse I've heard is that, because placements are based on an average, some rankers didn't even bother putting him at lightweight, since he'll continue competing at featherweight.

This rings a little hollow to me when Jessica Andrade has fought her last 4 fights at strawweight, and will probably be booked there in her next, and yet she's still #5 at flyweight

WMMA is a whole different story. The talent pool is so shallow. The UFC literally had FW rankings with Champion Nunes and a blank top 10 right beside Nunes as BW champion with a top 10.

 

[rjmbrd]

Tsarukyan beat Charlie Olives and took his ranking. Max beat Gaethje and moved to ninth. Whether he we believe he is staying at 145 or if he would beat the guys ahead of him is irrelevant, he should jump the guy he beat. The fact that he didn't makes zero sense.

Rankings are an indexing of your fights in the division over time.

Max has had one fight at lightweight in the last 5 years and is 1-1 overall.

The idea that you magically take someones ranking by beating them is logically bad, unless you are already nearby peers in the division. It is much, much more difficult to fight your way up the ladder than to win an individual single fight.

 

[CieloLuce]

Why is he fringe top ten?

He needs to be top five asap.

 

[HP_Nut]

UFC rankings are whatever they feel like, UFC likely does not think Max will fight at LW again anytime soon. If they did, magically Max's ranking would be like #3 or 4 (Islam, Arman, Charles or Max)

 

[markg171]

Guarantee you that if #11 Khamzat beats #3 Whittaker, he'll take that ranking.

Islam beat fourteenth ranked Thiago Moises and jumped up to fifth. The UFC's rankings make zero sense and exist solely to justify match making.

Max isn't ranked where he's should be as that would put Poirier down to #5.

And they can't have that ranking anywhere near their UFC 302 posters and promotional materials as that'll make the fight look like even more of a joke than it already is.

 

[Substance Abuse]

Rankings are an indexing of your fights in the division over time.

Max has had one fight at lightweight in the last 5 years and is 1-1 overall.

The idea that you magically take someones ranking by beating them is logically bad, unless you are already nearby peers in the division. It is much, much more difficult to fight your way up the ladder than to win an individual single fight.

Not sure I agree, but I do know I don't care all that much, lol.

 

[nostradumbass]

Should definitely be higher, but LW rankings are pretty weird. It's the champ, then a bunch of dudes who beat each other in a circle. Nobody else has even gone 2 years without a loss, including Max in a different division against a guy who also lost twice to the champ. Contenders 1-6 you could basically draw the names out of a hat, but Max should be one of them and isn't.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

Max should defend his BMF against Charles Oliveira if he does not want to cut to 145lbs and fight Topuria.

 

[Oscar Madison]

Speaking of number two, when’s the last time someone pooped in the octagon?

You are bringing shame to the Sherdog Tribe.

 

['Suga Daddy']

Yes, I'm saying he isn't. Rank #9 is where he belongs.

If styles make fights and Topuria knocking out Volk has no bearing on the results of his fight with Max (like Wax Holloway fans claim) then Max shouldn't be a top contender after knocking out Justin.

First up big Ilia fan, bet him up the ladder to the belt. Your logic sucks though dude, by your logic Ilia isn’t the champion. And yes I think Ilia beats Max but Max should definitely be in the top 5 at LW after that epic win, quit hating.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Styles make fights... just because you knocked out a top contender doesn't make you a top contender.

At least that's what Wax Holloway fans said about Max's chances against Topuria even though Topuria knocked out someone he couldn't even get a W against after trying 3 times.

Styles make fights, that's why we can't assume a guy at the top beats everyone below him

But wins make rankings, which is how those guys get above those people on the first place. You shouldn't be below someone you just beat, cuz that's not how rankings work

You can go ahead and keep thinking (I'm being generous with that term) that a guy at #3 isn't a viable contender, but the guy should be #3.

Guessing you are buttmad about max easily destroying aldo on multiple occasions. You have to let the hate go.

That's 100% his deal, so he's going full troll on anything anti Max, including picking up a "fandom" he doesn't give a shit about

 

[Poirierfan]

How can you be 8th P4P but ranked 9th at LW? Lmao, rankings are a fucking joke.

 

[Mike]

It doesn't make sense to me that you would just magically take someone's rank unless you were already closely ranked. To me rankings are based on what you've done in the division over time, not just one fight.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

It doesn't make sense to me that you would just magically take someone's rank unless you were already closely ranked. To me rankings are based on what you've done in the division over time, not just one fight.

I think beating someone should almost automatically take what their opponent had, but also, because of everything else you said, they should really only be doing fights where opponents are already close to taking what they had. You don't give someone the number 1 contender if you aren't prepared to make  them the number 1 contender.

This being a BMF thing means it was intended to be a bit of a circus, and that throws a wrench in the works

 

[rjmbrd]

It doesn't make sense to me that you would just magically take someone's rank unless you were already closely ranked. To me rankings are based on what you've done in the division over time, not just one fight.

Because this is common sense and accurate.

 

[Local Plata]

I don't know about #2, but he should be ranked. More importantly, Gaethje should plummet down the rankings. He won't though.

 

[svmr_db]

Max probably won't even fight at lightweight again any time soon, I think people are making a bigger deal out of the ranking than it should be. If Max was committed to the division yes give him the #2 spot. But let's say he doesn't return to the division until 2026/2027, who cares what his rank is at in that scenario lol.

 

[Mike]

I think beating someone should almost automatically take what their opponent had, but also, because of everything else you said, they should really only be doing fights where opponents are already close to taking what they had. You don't give someone the number 1 contender if you aren't prepared to make  them the number 1 contender.

This being a BMF thing means it was intended to be a bit of a circus, and that throws a wrench in the works

I mean even when Matt Serra was champ a lot of places didn't have him ranked #1. This isn't highlander. I do agree that they should try to match guys that are closely ranked.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

I mean even when Matt Serra was champ a lot of places didn't have him ranked #1. This isn't highlander. I do agree that they should try to match guys that are closely ranked.

Well that's just cuz lots of sites do skill rankings, but that's obviously not how the official rankings work or even should work.
I mean, should we have gone to UFC.com and seen GSP up there as the champion just cuz we knew Serra wasn't the best? Of course not

Official rankings are a proximity check for contendership to the title. If Top vs Volk gets booked so Max chooses to keep LW open, then his name should be on the dial before Justin right now

 

[Mike]

Well that's just cuz lots of sites do skill rankings, but that's obviously not how the official rankings work or even should work.
I mean, should we have gone to UFC.com and seen GSP up there as the champion just cuz we knew Serra wasn't the best? Of course not

Official rankings are a proximity check for contendership to the title. If Top vs Volk gets booked so Max chooses to keep LW open, then his name should be on the dial before Justin right now

Well no, it's more that being the champ doesn't always mean you're the #1 guy. Especially if you got to cut the line and the champ is the only elite win you have.