Masvidal is not a good matchup for Burns

[C0NCH3TO]

Masvidal is way too old and washed. Younger Mas would have made things very interesting.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Jorge can defend well against a grappler and can hold his own against a striker. He gets blown out by a person who can do both -- which is what Burns is

 

[achoo42]

Jorge can defend well against a grappler and can hold his own against a striker. He gets blown out by a person who can do both -- which is what Burns is

Neither Burns nor Usman are strikers. They have a lot of power and decent basics but that's about it. That power could be the equalizer if Masvidal's chin is declining though.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Neither Burns nor Usman are strikers. They have a lot of power and decent basics but that's about it. That power could be the equalizer if Masvidal's chin is declining though.

They both have decently technical striking and do not rely on grappling to the level of a Maia does. Colby wouldnt be classified as a striker either and he beat Mas in standing scoring. Usman flatlined Mas on the feet. Mas is cant deal with well rounded fighter.

 

[SG123]

Yeah Burns is rightfully the favorite but Jorge is no walk-over and stylistically it's a pretty solid fight. One of the more interesting fights coming up.

So you can post without spewing pure cringe…

 

[CPH]

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His Spanish wiki has his mugshot. Idk why that’s funny to me lol.

He looks to be a good 8 years younger than Conor O'Baggins.

 

[CPH]

They both have decently technical striking and do not rely on grappling to the level of a Maia does. Colby wouldnt be classified as a striker either and he beat Mas in standing scoring. Usman flatlined Mas on the feet. Mas is cant deal with well rounded fighter.

On the feet, Masvidal outstruck Colby in the first three rounds, even though the space was limited, as Colby was constantly crowding him and forcing him to defend 9 TDs.

5-4
24-19
7-6

Eventually though, the grappling took its toll and Colby was able to touch Jorge up in rd4. The 31-19 score in distance strikes in rd4 is what gave Colby the overall edge standing. But even in that round, Masvidal wobbled Colby hard.

Colby dominated with grappling and won a clear UD, but people (not saying you are one of them) are really drifting off into fantasy land when they claim that Colby 'beat up', 'raped', etc Masvidal that night. It was a pretty boring points win. No one got 'destroyed'.

 

[CainWasAble]

Agreed. The -500 odds are really high. Burns is no young buck. He's 36 and has been in 26 fights. He also recently had some wars with Khamzat and Usman that's gonna accelerate the deterioration of his body.

We literally watched him fight 2 months ago and he looked amazing

 

[CPH]

We literally watched him fight 2 months ago and he looked amazing

First round wins are impressive but they don't tell us much about how the fighter would perform if he were actually pushed. That fight in a nutshell: Burns doing nothing on the feet for the first two minutes, then easy TD, grappling domination and finish.

 

[CainWasAble]

First round wins are impressive but they don't tell us much about how the fighter would perform if he were actually pushed. That fight in a nutshell: Burns doing nothing on the feet for the first two minutes, then easy TD, grappling domination and finish.

We watched him get pushed pretty hard when he fought Khamzat less than a year ago and he performed well.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

On the feet, Masvidal outstruck Colby in the first three rounds, even though the space was limited, as Colby was constantly crowding him and forcing him to defend 9 TDs.

5-4
24-19
7-6

Eventually though, the grappling took its toll and Colby was able to touch Jorge up in rd4. The 31-19 score in distance strikes in rd4 is what gave Colby the overall edge standing. But even in that round, Masvidal wobbled Colby hard.

Colby dominated with grappling and won a clear UD, but people (not saying you are one of them) are really drifting off into fantasy land when they claim that Colby 'beat up', 'raped', etc Masvidal that night. It was a pretty boring points win. No one got 'destroyed'.

Where are you pulling your data from?

 

[burningspear]

People are sleeping on Masvidal
Until he loses to a bum, you cant count him out as washed
Also, hes a much better fighter since he grew out his hair, and only lost to the top guys at the time

 

[CPH]

Where are you pulling your data from?

right here

http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/d03d0abf331df751

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

right here

http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/d03d0abf331df751

Not seeing where Mas won the first 3 rounds standing.

 

[mjfan23]

Snoozeman KOd masvidal into the Death. Burns does the same. Burns does the same

 

[Azure]

I feel like Burns is going to walk through Mas

 

[Joe Devola]

burns will smash

 

[VAfan]

Masvidal is on his way down. He isn't much of threat for anyone in the top 5.

this. the odds are what they are because the assumption is that masvidal is shot, which he probably is. it would be a huge upset if he wins.

 

[TempleoftheDog]

Most of the posts in here were made before Countdown came out today.

If a fighter says he may as well retire if he loses. That’s probably not a good sign.

Burns by Decision.

 

[CPH]

Not seeing where Mas won the first 3 rounds standing.

I meant ‘at distance’, which you see in one of the strike category columns if you unfurl the sig strike section.

The diss was [Mas got outstruck by Colby] So I looked into it and that’s what I found. I mean, it kind of matters. We shouldn’t be tallying ground strikes when comparing two fighters standup skills.