Masvidal Disputes Five-Second Knockout Time

[Brit_Brawler]

I'd call that 2.5 seconds at most.

 

[VanillaBryce]

Maybe if he went with the walk off KO instead of some extra GnP then they might have stopped it sooner?

 

[usernamee]

If we call it 2 seconds, what do we call the punches after he was KOd? Bonus stuff after the fight?

 

[Katsumi Yamada]

If it was retroactively counted as 2 seconds his punches would be illegal

Askren should press charges IMO

 

[SenorFranko]

Maybe if he went with the walk off KO instead of some extra GnP then they might have stopped it sooner?

Yeah that's what I was thinking. If he did the walk off KO the ref could have waved it off from where he was standing rather then run over and pull Masvidal off Askren.

 

[boss429]

Didn't Ludwig have his time shortened retroactively by the commission?

I believe so yeah, not until fairly recently though, he didn't have the official record until then.

I think Dong yun Kim did for his KO of the Canadian Pearson in something like 7 seconds or maybe Zombie over Hominick.

 

[jimbob27]

If we call it 2 seconds, what do we call the punches after he was KOd? Bonus stuff after the fight?

Well that's always the interesting question in cases like these.

Knockout is one of the ways to win the fight. It's no longer a fight if one of the competitors is actually unconsious.

 

[7th]

Can't have it both ways, either the fight was over, and he kept punching past that, or the fight wasn't over so he chose to keep fighting. He extended the fight himself so he is arguing with his former self.

 

[MMAart]

If it was retroactively counted as 2 seconds his punches would be illegal

Fighters only stop fighting when the referee tells them to stop.

 

[Furious77]

If we call it 2 seconds, what do we call the punches after he was KOd? Bonus stuff after the fight?

One thing has nothing to do with the other.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

No one's breaking 5 seconds anyway. At best, it will be a tie.

Just wait till the Russian Hammer makes his long awaited UFC return, the record will fall faster than Hillary Clinton going down a flight of stairs.

 

[frederick]

If it was retroactively counted as 2 seconds his punches would be illegal

In before overturned result.

 

[jeremyemilio]

At UFC 239, “Gamebred” took on Ben Askren. To start the fight, he ran across the cage and landed a perfectly placed flying knee that knocked his foe out cold. The official time of the knockout was five seconds, which is still the record. But, as Joe Rogan pointed on the broadcast, had the ref gotten in position faster, it could have very well been two or three seconds.

“It’s crazy, I’ve been watching this sport for the longest time,” Masvidal said of this record-breaking knockout on BJPENN.com Radio. “This is huge. It’s a real f**king achievement for me as a fanboy, being such a fan of this sport and loving this sh*t so damn much that I consume a lot of this sport in my brain. I know the type of athletes and studs there are, the type of murderers that are there in my sport.

“I’m the fastest one out of those guys? Wow, that’s pretty f**king intense man. I’m humbled,” he continued. “At first I came from a weird place because I did have to see it at first in my head, and that’s always how I do my things. I like to see myself go and do something. So it didn’t feel out of the norm at the moment that it happened, but when it hit me later on, it was the most humbling sh1t.”

Jorge Masvidal Believes KO Only Took Two or Three Seconds

Although Masvidal is happy to have this new UFC record, he believes that if the referee had intervened sooner — say, at two or three seconds — the record would never be broken. Of course, it’s unlikely Masvidal’s record is broken any time soon. The previous record, held by Duane Ludwig at six seconds, stood from 2006 to 2019.

“I mean if we counting when he got knocked out, it’s like one, two, or three — around there,” he explained. “We were watching the thing from when that knee makes contact, he’s already done--sniper shot--so if they were to call that at that three seconds, that’d be really tough to break.”

He was out before 4:56. Does anyone have 4:57?

What was the time at this frame? (Somebody cropped it out.)

View media item 31521The video seems to show 4:58 was the time of contact and/or when Askren's head hit the canvas it was still 4:58.

I don't understand. If you're so certain he was out at 2 or 3 seconds, why are you still punching him in the head at 4 or 5 seconds?

Impossible.

 

[loyalsword21]

Out in 3 stopped at 5. What a knockout..

 

[Captain Herb]

He said this as he was watching the fight after it happened.

Jorge already knew what happened. He was just determined to serve Funky a three piece whether he was awake to eat it or not.

 

[jeremyemilio]

This. You fight till the ref pulls you off

Have whatever opinion you like about beating on an unconscious man, but this particular line of reasoning is inane.

A. You are a human being first, fighter second. No one is arguing that the fighter should stop fighting before being pulled off. The argument is that a human being shouldn't need a fight to be over to stop beating on an unconscious man.

B. It's not like this sort of scenario is specific to prize fighting. People get injured badly in all sorts of sports. Usually when that happens, and it's obvious, play stops regardless of whether it is the ref or the players who notice first, especially if continued play is likely to cause further damage to the I injured player. If an NFL player blows out his knee mid play, most opposing players won't take it as an opportunity to smash him with a killer block just because the whistle hasn't blown yet.

 

[Nomuff2tuff]

Have whatever opinion you like about beating on an unconscious man, but this particular line of reasoning is inane.

A. You are a human being first, fighter second. No one is arguing that the fighter should stop fighting before being pulled off. The argument is that a human being shouldn't need a fight to be over to stop beating on an unconscious man.

B. It's not like this sort of scenario is specific to prize fighting. People get injured badly in all sorts of sports. Usually when that happens, and it's obvious, play stops regardless of whether it is the ref or the players who notice first, especially if continued play is likely to cause further damage to the I injured player. If an NFL player blows out his knee mid play, most opposing players won't take it as an opportunity to smash him with a killer block just because the whistle hasn't blown yet.

I think you should just stop watching all together because this sounds like it's much for you too handle. Perhaps golf would work . You don't have to worry about scary violence there

 

[Wrapup]

If it was retroactively counted as 2 seconds his punches would be illegal

If it was stopped when Askren was KOd then the punches would have never happened. What can you do though, that fast of a KO took everyone but Jorge by surprise.

 

[jeremyemilio]

Fighters only stop fighting when the referee tells them to stop.

Not true. Fighters often stop fighting as soon as the KO is scored, without waiting for the ref.

 

[El Fernas]

Not sure how that works, i have seen pictures of the ref already there still at 4:56, could a walk off KO help with the official time? last punches were not really required.