Weight Loss Massive weight loss.

flikerstance said:
long term but i only take it 4 times week but take like 300 a day
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Ok, so it sounds like in your circumstance you are going to need to build a specific, long term lifestyle plan that takes your done script and the side affects of that into account.
 
Massive weight loss involves a well structured program with a combination of factors: diet, exercise, supplementation and motivation. For diet I recommend incorporating the calorie cycling strategy and for exercise I recommend the metabolic micro-burst strategy.
 
I recommend atkins. Starting January 2016 I weighed 282. I was classified pre-hypertension(borderline high blood pressure) and borderline high cholesterol. By late September I had lost 98 lbs, while being able to eat as much as I wanted as long as I limited Carbohydrates, often over 4000 calories a day with little to no exercise. My blood pressure is completely normal and cholesterol is still a little high but not enough to medicate. It is the reason I have started to train and the reason I came back to these boards.
 
im actual looking to loose 30lb and get rid of my small belly i gained. however i dont wanna have the saggy skin, so im gonna try an throw in some ab workouts or use the machine at the gym. i dont consume very much as is but.
i was looking at throwing it in supplement shake since i dont eat a lot, but i have no idea which one is the good one to buy
 
Contempt said:
Why on earth would you be aiming to lose up to 40lb in a month?

Crash dieting like that will mean losing a LOT of muscle along with the fat. I really don't see it happening without some... less than legal supplementation and even then, it's unlikely.

You haven't told us your age, height, body fat percentage, fitness level, caloric consumption etc. It's hard to give advice with so little to work with.

General advice. If you are planning to crash diet, keep up your protein consumption to at least a gram per lb of lean mass. I'd also go for BCAA's to give you some additional amino's (specifically leucine) to minimise muscle loss.

My advice is to drop the crazy crash dieting plan and start making small tweaks to your life a bit at a time, cutting out junk/alcohol and exercising more. This should lead to forming sustainable habits rather than binge/purge behavior. If you’re looking for additional guidance on weight management, Mochi Health customer service can provide expert support to tailor a plan that works best for you.

P.S look up "The rapid Fat Loss Hand Book" by Lyle McDonald. The author is kind of a dick but from memory, the info in this ebook was fairly solid.
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To lose 32-40 pounds in a month, focus on a strict, sustainable diet with a strong calorie deficit, along with consistent exercise like strength training and cardio. Supplements like glucomannan for appetite suppression and L-carnitine for fat burning may be helpful, but avoid stimulants to protect your heart rate and blood pressure. A very low-calorie diet combined with proper rest and stress management is key. Consult a healthcare provider before starting any weight loss regimen, especially for rapid weight loss.
 
Contempt said:
Walking is terrible for weight loss. The more the human body performs an action, the more efficient it gets at it and the less energy it burns performing that action. Given how often humans walk, what do you think the end result of this is? The human body is so stupidly efficient at walking, you need to walk for half an hour to burn off the calories in a single piece of bread. Walking is better than no exercise to get people off their arse and moving around but all but useless for weight loss.

They used to say weightloss was 50/50 diet and exercise, then 70/30, then 80/20, then 90/10 but really, it's 100/0. There are plenty of other physiological reasons to exercise but if you want to lose weight, you need to moderate your caloric intake and no, this does not mean by eating nothing at all as this has a bunch of other effects which are counter productive to weight loss. *no, this doesn't take into account intermittent fasting but that's a whole other story and there's far more too it than to simply stop eating.
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I’ve lost pounds of weight/fat before from consistent long walks, you f’n jackass.
 
GuanoApes said:
I’ve lost pounds of weight/fat before from consistent long walks, you f’n jackass.
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at 4100 calories per lb of fat, an average man would have to walk for 12-14 hours straight to burn off enough calories to lose one lb of fat.

That's assuming he went straight to burning through fat and had had no stored glycogen to burn through first, which is of course, entirely impossible.

Walking is garbage for weight loss and you're an idiot if you think otherwise.
 
Contempt said:
at 4100 calories per lb of fat, an average man would have to walk for 12-14 hours straight to burn off enough calories to lose one lb of fat.

That's assuming he went straight to burning through fat and had had no stored glycogen to burn through first, which is of course, entirely impossible.

Walking is garbage for weight loss and you're an idiot if you think otherwise.
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There's more to it than just calories. There were a few studies that found that low-intensity movement of any kind, walking being a prime example, doesn't increase hunger. An active job where you're on feet all day doing things is another example of that kind of low-intensity movement, high NEAT basically. So you can walk 10,000 steps without your hunger skyrocketing. The same can't be said for intense exercise at the gym. There's also another benefit to walking: it doesn't interfere with muscle building. When you're building muscle or looking to retain muscle on a diet, which is universally what you should want on a diet because you're catabolic and at risk of losing mass, you don't want other exercises interfering with it. If you lift weights AND do a lot of aerobic exercise, some of your body's energy gets redirected to recovering from the aerobic exercise and you won't retain as much muscle. You can do a little bit of aerobic exercise, but not a lot. So how do you increase your calorie expenditure if you can't do a lot of running, jogging, etc? Walking. Usually the whole point of losing weight is that you want to lose fat, not muscle, and you want to be healthy and look good. You need muscle for all of that. Resistance training in of itself is another example of something that doesn't burn that many calories upfront, but gives you important benefits long term not just from a calorie perspective.
 
KILL KILL said:
TS, just so you're aware, in order to lose 40 pounds in a month, you will need to be in a 4,516 calorie deficit for 31 straight days...
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I'm not advocating that he should try to lose 40 lbs in a month, that's absurd. But what you are saying is not accurate either. We don't know much about this guys current lifestyle, but I do know that for every gram of salt you consume, the body retains 2 grams of water. and 3-4 grams for every carb stored as glycogen. He could be bloated as fuck and lose several pounds of unnecessary water just by lowering his salt intake to an optimal level, and optimizing his diet. This part of why many drop water weight initially when starting a new diet and exercise program. If you maintain that optimal diet, it's unlikely that excess water weight would return. That's not the same as cutting weight for a fight.
 
Contempt said:
at 4100 calories per lb of fat, an average man would have to walk for 12-14 hours straight to burn off enough calories to lose one lb of fat.

That's assuming he went straight to burning through fat and had had no stored glycogen to burn through first, which is of course, entirely impossible.

Walking is garbage for weight loss and you're an idiot if you think otherwise.
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It's worked for a mate of mine, in combination with better eating of course but that's her exercise.

For me it does fuck all though, i do boxing training (kind of a HIIT class but all boxing) and it's very high intensity and worked wonders for me. I don't track heart rate or anything but guessing I get in a fat burning zone or whatever.
 
TankAbbott4Eva said:
It's worked for a mate of mine, in combination with better eating of course but that's her exercise.

For me it does fuck all though, i do boxing training (kind of a HIIT class but all boxing) and it's very high intensity and worked wonders for me. I don't track heart rate or anything but guessing I get in a fat burning zone or whatever.
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LOL, the important bit is highlighted... If she ate the same, the walking wouldn't have done dick.

I'm also a HIIT guy myself. Bike and treadmill, 25-30 minutes and I'm covered from head to toe in sweat, it's great stuff.
 
Contempt said:
LOL, the important bit is highlighted... If she ate the same, the walking wouldn't have done dick.

I'm also a HIIT guy myself. Bike and treadmill, 25-30 minutes and I'm covered from head to toe in sweat, it's great stuff.
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Yeah diet is key for sure. I dropped a lot recently (25 kegs or thereabouts), a big part of it was the amount I ate too. I figured out if you don't have a huge bowl of pasta you can still have some carbs with a meal, just not a heap.

The whole keto thing has given carbs a bad name I reckon, I just try to get veg, carbs and protein pretty equally (actually more protein) and not in huge quantities. Though training yourself to eat less is fuckin hard that's for sure.
 
TankAbbott4Eva said:
Yeah diet is key for sure. I dropped a lot recently (25 kegs or thereabouts), a big part of it was the amount I ate too. I figured out if you don't have a huge bowl of pasta you can still have some carbs with a meal, just not a heap.

The whole keto thing has given carbs a bad name I reckon, I just try to get veg, carbs and protein pretty equally (actually more protein) and not in huge quantities. Though training yourself to eat less is fuckin hard that's for sure.
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Congrats on the 25KG's, huge effort... especially for us old farts, not as easy as it was when were young.

My biggest problem has been a completely fucked right shoulder, horrible pain so I've sat around mostly inactive and drinking FAR too much. Now I need to get back into it and lose the 5kg's I put on since October :(
 
Contempt said:
Congrats on the 25KG's, huge effort... especially for us old farts, not as easy as it was when were young.

My biggest problem has been a completely fucked right shoulder, horrible pain so I've sat around mostly inactive and drinking FAR too much. Now I need to get back into it and lose the 5kg's I put on since October :(
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I’ve been lucky man, found the right training and it all followed from there.

And injury is the only thing that will stop me, I’ve been lucky so far, reckon I’ve figured out how far I can push, famous last words ha ha
 
TankAbbott4Eva said:
I’ve been lucky man, found the right training and it all followed from there.

And injury is the only thing that will stop me, I’ve been lucky so far, reckon I’ve figured out how far I can push, famous last words ha ha
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Ha!!! yeah, the only time you actually find out what your limits were is after you have gone past them :(

The weird thing is that I was exercising well inside my limits to avoid something like this happening. I don't even know what did it???

After months of pain, physio, doctors, specialists, MRI etc... I think I MAY just escape a fourth shoulder surgery... fingers crossed.
 
I don't know if this would be all that helpful but thought to mention it. (I just read an article about talk show host Kelly Rippa and her experience of stopping alcohol consumption and much to her surprise found that she gained 12lbs.)

According to an alcohol study begun in the late 1990s, 20,000 females were followed with their drinking habits and weights tracked for close to 13 years. The females were all low to medium in weight at the beginning of the study. The results were greatly surprising to many. Of the 20,000 females tracked about 9000 had put on a significant amount of weight, with some becoming clinically obese, at the end of the study. The surprise was that it was the group of females that didn't drink alcohol that put on large amounts of weight. Females that drank alcohol tended to keep the weight off.

I read about that study in this book ~

The Good News About Booze​


 
Follow a paleo diet; essentially just whole foods and therefore avoid any processed / transformed foods as well as anything with added sugar and of course alcohol. Back when I competed I managed to lose a lot of weight while in preparation for a fight thanks to that diet so I didn't even neeed to cut weight via dehydration the day before the fight. You still eat till your full and don't have to feel hungry, but at least it's only really nutritious ingredients full of vitamins and macros that you need. There are websites with tons of recipes following that concept: https://paleoleap.com/category/paleo-diet-recipes/

Also of course be active and train regularly. Sleep is also important to lose weight.
 
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