News Mark Hunt loses another lawsuit against the UFC

Guy who gets signed to the UFC based purely on shady business practices squandering his money away. Sad to see it
 
DarthChen731 said:
The fact that they even gave him a shot when his record was 5-6 was kinda crazy... and then he got subbed by McCorkle and they STILL brought him back.

I'm not saying that that excuses anything shitty they may have done to him, but it's definitely resembling a bite the hand that feeds type of situation.
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They were forced too. They had to honor his Pride contract. They didn't do him a favor.

I hope you feel the same way if the company you work for screws you over. I hope you drop your pants and take it.
 
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method115 said:
Exactly. I'm not saying the UFC should just get to fuck him over however they want and that's that. I just think maybe he should have said "Eh they fucked me here but I'm a millionaire now let me just retire and move on". Also on top of all that I'm glad to see someone like Hunt get so much money and I hate to see him dump it into some shitty lawyer in a case I know he's not going to win.



Ok well I don't really care what the records say. I saw the fight and Mark lost very easily. Yes, Brock was cheating and the fight was overturned as it should have been. Just like I don't think Jon Jones lost to Matt Hammill the records don't tell the whole story.
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You admit you don't care about reality, so why would anyone care what you have to say.

Again this isn't the WWE. If you cheat, you don't get the W. I don't care what your reality is. I deal with real reality.
 
TheComputerGuy said:
They were forced too. They had to honor his Pride contract. They didn't do him a favor.

I hope you feel the same way if the company works for you screws you over. I hope you drop your pants and take it.
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Last year I was fired for no effectively reason (supposedly approving a crew to perform work in an unsafe way leading to a "safety near miss") from the company where I had been for 5+ years and secured multiple promotions after reporting an executive for numerous instances of sexual harassment that I had witnessed against multiple colleagues. After consulting my lawyer friend I decided it wasn't going to be worth potentially years of stress and emotional poison to maybe get a result, not to mention the potential harm it could do to the people at the company that I actually do value (I was the best man at a wedding for my colleague 9 months after my firing).

I was really upset for a long time and struggled to cope with the unfairness, and I guess to some degree I still do, but end of the day it wasn't worth hanging onto. Once I took that view I started doing better and am now as good off as I've ever been. I don't consider that "dropping my pants and taking it," I consider that being the bigger person and knowing that karma will have its say when it's all said and done.
 
Hellowhosthat said:


Dude's lawyers need to stop taking advantage of him. He must be running up a humongous legal tab at this point.
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I like Hunt, but hes not a bright guy.

I could respect this more if it was ONLY an opportunity to get more cash.

But MMA is not just rife with steroids, hes spent most of his career in organizations where steroids were encouraged like Pride.

Everyone knows Brock is on the sauce since HS; Why not just take the big pay day and walk away instead of gambling with the court system against a massive corporation?
 
TheComputerGuy said:
You admit you don't care about reality, so why would anyone care what you have to say.

Again this isn't the WWE. If you cheat, you don't get the W. I don't care what your reality is. I deal with real reality.
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Ok that's fine no one has to care what I have to say.
 
I remember hunt saying before the fight steroids can’t make you take a hit, pretty much acknowledging Brock was probably juiced and he didn’t care. Pretty weird he’s so mad at the ufc yet it’s by far the cleanest mma organization out there with usada. Only reason Brock got caught was because of usada, if that would have been pride or belator he wouldn’t have even failed
 
Bmf123 said:
I remember hunt saying before the fight steroids can’t make you take a hit, pretty much acknowledging Brock was probably juiced and he didn’t care. Pretty weird he’s so mad at the ufc yet it’s by far the cleanest mma organization out there with usada. Only reason Brock got caught was because of usada, if that would have been pride or belator he wouldn’t have even failed
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He got caught by the Athletic commission. He got an exception from the UFC USADA testing. The Athletic commission does drug testing before the fight.
 
ermac88 said:
I like Hunt, but hes not a bright guy.

I could respect this more if it was ONLY an opportunity to get more cash.

But MMA is not just rife with steroids, hes spent most of his career in organizations where steroids were encouraged like Pride.

Everyone knows Brock is on the sauce since HS; Why not just take the big pay day and walk away instead of gambling with the court system against a massive corporation?
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Stupidest argument. Pride had the same rules for everyone. No one is drug tested. That is like if Brock soccer kicked him in the head, and someone saying well it was allowed in Pride.

Hunt was required to do the USADA drug testing. Brock got an exemption from it. If PEDs were legal like they were in Pride then it wouldn't be cheating.
 
TheComputerGuy said:
Stupidest argument. Pride had the same rules for everyone. No one is drug tested. That is like if Brock soccer kicked him in the head, and someone saying well it was allowed in Pride.

Hunt was required to do the USADA drug testing. Brock got an exemption from it. If PEDs were legal like they were in Pride then it wouldn't be cheating.
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well within the rules of competition, kicking someone in the heads breaks the rules of competition. It would equal an immediate disqualification.

Outside of the immediate rules /parameter of sport/direct competition allegedly athletes aren't supposed to take substances to augment their bodies; but they do, in all pro-sports.

My point was Hunt is keenly aware of this having performed in the sport at a capacity like Pride where it was flagrant. He's fought tons of guys who've taken and been busted.

Im not saying this as a legal argument; Im saying logically he knew before getting involved, and he should know the probability of success in the lawsuit.

It would be great if he got an additional payday from the UFC in this suit; but I really doubt the investment of time and legal fees is worth it compared to the payday he got against Brock.
 
method115 said:
Fans did care that Brock was on roids but he left right after so what are we supposed to do? Best we can do is say that's fucked up and move on. They didn't care because this is just an accusation with no actual evidence behind it. Mark Hunt has been in court for years trying to prove it and he hasn't. I think the main issue is Mark Hunt has always come across as a tough dude who just goes out there to fight and move on. Then he choose to end his career bitching about a fight he lost because the other guy was on roids after saying he didn't care. He destroyed the public persona he built up in the community over something pretty silly.

The guy was making over half a mil in the UFC. That's incredible for someone with his record. I get he felt like he was wronged by the UFC but honestly if it wasn't for the UFC that man would have never made as much money as he did.
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you see, that's not what i'm talking about. i'm talking about how everything went PERFECTLY for the UFC to be exonerated of any wrongdoing. Brock had to set his cycles up correctly, USADA had to notify UFC and Brock when the tests would be done, and they had to make sure the tests were too close to the event in order for the UFC to claim ignorance. what i'm talking about has nothing to do with Mark Hunt or Brock. it has to do with how the UFC is innocent of this. it seems pretty clear that the coincidences ended up being JUST right for the giant conglomerate machine to be innocent of it.

you're exactly what i'm talking about. fans too focused on Mark Hunt and not focused on the UFC and USADA. i see people blame the UFC and Dana for damn near everything, with barely any evidence but somehow this is too over the top? i'm not talking about proving it in court, i'm talking about what it looks like in public opinion. you can't tell me this doesn't look like the UFC purposely allowed Brock to roid to get him on their special card. again, i'm not arguing that Mark Hunt should win. i think he was dumb to sue without having all the evidence needed. what he said on a fight promo holds little weight anyway because Hunt can just say "i said that to sell tickets". the same way BJ Penn didn't get arrested for terroristic threatening when he told GSP "this is TO THE DEATH Georges".
 
blaseblase said:
Brock being on steroids doesn't change that Hunt was in the wrong and should not have filed the lawsuit.
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you're missing my point. the lawsuit itself uncovered HOW the UFC is innocent in this. but by proving their innocence it also reveals just how perfectly everything had to go in order for the fight to go through without any knowledge of wrongdoing. for a giant conglomerate to just happenstance have all of this fall into place seems a little too good to be true.
 
Pancake Sprawl said:
you're missing my point. the lawsuit itself uncovered HOW the UFC is innocent in this. but by proving their innocence it also reveals just how perfectly everything had to go in order for the fight to go through without any knowledge of wrongdoing. for a giant conglomerate to just happenstance have all of this fall into place seems a little too good to be true.
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{<huh}

Umm, what? It was obvious the lawsuit was going to fail because Hunt made claims without any evidence. That's called a frivolous lawsuit. He wasted 6 years of the courts time for no reason. He deserves the criticism and he deserves to foot the bill.
 
ermac88 said:
well within the rules of competition, kicking someone in the heads breaks the rules of competition. It would equal an immediate disqualification.

Outside of the immediate rules /parameter of sport/direct competition allegedly athletes aren't supposed to take substances to augment their bodies; but they do, in all pro-sports.

My point was Hunt is keenly aware of this having performed in the sport at a capacity like Pride where it was flagrant. He's fought tons of guys who've taken and been busted.

Im not saying this as a legal argument; Im saying logically he knew before getting involved, and he should know the probability of success in the lawsuit.

It would be great if he got an additional payday from the UFC in this suit; but I really doubt the investment of time and legal fees is worth it compared to the payday he got against Brock.
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Soccer kicks in pride was legal, and drug use was legal in pride. Both aren't in the UFC. Just because something was allowed in Pride doesn't mean it is in the UFC.

What you are saying doesn't make any sense.
 
TheComputerGuy said:
Source? Name 1 other person that this was given for?

Show me the source that there was a rule before this happened? Since it is a rule, it would have been in the UFC rule book.
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Thank you.

The rule didn't say 6 months in the drug testing pool, unless we feel like it.
 
TheComputerGuy said:
Soccer kicks in pride was legal, and drug use was legal in pride. Both aren't in the UFC. Just because something was allowed in Pride doesn't mean it is in the UFC.

What you are saying doesn't make any sense.
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Yeah you missed my point completely which is why it doesnt make sense, and I cant simplify it further


Yeah steroids were encouraged in Pride where Hunt spent most of his career; everyone is still on them

Hunt knows this.

His lawsuit is fruitless.
 
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