Manny Gamburyan's throw against Jeff Cox

[Cirno]

Looks like he went for harai goshi/o guruma but had to adjust mid-throw to a yama arashi since he was close to the cage.

Is it common in judo to do throws that are hybrids of 2 different ones?

The lines tend to blur alot with hip throws, and with no-gi the lines blur further.

In higher levels of competition, most if not all players are aware of the classical methods of doing throws and know counters for them. Doing an unorthodox version can throw the other player (pun intended) off his game if done right.

Some players just can't do the classical version due to injury or body shape.

edit: Seio otoshi with the sweeping harai leg is a good call too.

 

[Q mystic]

Sounds like Harai Makikomi

<img src="http://www.judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/haraimakikomi.gif">

Thats it. Except for the 2 on 1 deal.

Often in nogi I would pull ippon-seoinage and they would try to go around so I would stick my leg out like that to block. No judo technical term for it that I knew of and I would still call it ippon-seoinage if the trajectory was over my shoulder and an ippon-seoinage to osoto if it was over the leg/hip, even tho he wasn't going backwards. Looks like now I should have called it ippon-seoinage to makikomi.

He, of course, wouldnt stretch out in the throw as the fence was right there and would be uneccessary anyway.

I don't think I've ever seen a tai-toshi were the foot wasnt planted but...

 

[Darkslide632]

I don't think I've ever seen a tai-toshi were the foot wasnt planted but...

Look for a book called Judo for the West by Geof Gleeson. He talks about straight driving entries into throws, which is how I throw my harai goshi. A straight driving entry into tai otoshi has the leg in the air, almost as if tori is trying to "step" with his knee.

 

[IChinaManI]

I just figured it was a harai goshi with a seoi nage grip. It's definitley not seoi otoshi or tai otoshi. I wouldn't really say it was a makikomi as it was a clean sweep, not a wraparound.

 

[BANNANASPLEET]

Woahhh Those Are Cool Gifs. Can I See The Throw Manny Did?

 

[Q mystic]

Look for a book called Judo for the West by Geof Gleeson. He talks about straight driving entries into throws, which is how I throw my harai goshi. A straight driving entry into tai otoshi has the leg in the air, almost as if tori is trying to "step" with his knee.

Maybe but I don't see a step in the vid. Looks like he is intentionally just blocking it. Most of my old osoto-makikomi were whipping-like but sometimes they would catch him off-balance quite well and we would drop almost like an uchimata if I didn't have to go outward and rather in deep. I see the same energy coming from his center in that. Prolly just a mish-mash of alot of these but to each they would see it. Could tell alot about a fighters style I suppose eh?

 

[Ozfight]

It looked more like an Ashi Guruma than anything.

 

[IChinaManI]

^yeah it did kinda look like an ashi guruma with a seoi nage grip. (well it was more of an armdrag grip) It definitley wasn't harai makikomi as there was no wraparound.

 

[Q mystic]

^yeah it did kinda look like an ashi guruma with a seoi nage grip. (well it was more of an armdrag grip) It definitley wasn't harai makikomi as there was no wraparound.

Good point. No makikomi there..I withdraw my vote and say ashiguruma.

 

[Darkslide632]

Geez! I say Ashi Guruma and I get completely over looked, but Ozfight says it and it's a complete revelation!

Seriously though, I think both ashi guruma and/or yama arashi are reasonably close.

 

[IChinaManI]

^ Sorry man haha














don't harai me

 

[saywhuuh]

judo is so kool

 

[itlnheat]

I missed that fight =( no gif?

 

[IChinaManI]

I think posted it on dailymotion. Check the link in the first page.