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Crime Manchester Pusher - obvious gay serial killer?

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Was watching a very strange documentary today about the Manchester Pusher.

This is a case of mass delusion at the institutional level. It's absolutely INSANE the level of denial that the families and police exhibit about this.

Almost all guys, almost all early 20s all targeted while cruising in the gay hookup spot under a bridge.

Anyone here in the Manchester area? Is it just open knowledge there what is going on?


Manchester also had a serial gay rapist who drugged and raped almost 200 dudes.


Wtf is going on in Manchester.
 
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Was watching a very strange documentary today about the Manchester Pusher.

This is a case of mass delusion at the institutional level. It's absolutely INSANE the level of denial that the families and police exhibit about this.

Almost all guys, almost all early 20s all targeted while cruising in the guy hookup spot under a bridge.

Anyone here in the Manchester area? Is it just open knowledge there what is going on?


Manchester also had a serial gay rapist who drugged and raped almost 200 dudes.


Wtf is going on in Manchester.
Canal Street's bars and clubs are so sex friendly, quite why they're hooking up under a bridge is really quite...primitive.
 
Canal Street's bars and clubs are so sex friendly, quite why they're hooking up under a bridge is really quite...primitive.

In the documentary, the director interviews a cop who takes him under a bridge and literally three steps in they run into a guy lurking in the shadows. All these guys are young early 20s guys who 'mysteriously' go poking around under a bridge at 4 in the morning after leaving the bars.

It's crazy how obvious what's going on is but the level of denial is insane.
 
Dark stuff... Knowing nothing about it except reading the headline blurb it seems there's some negligence and or police/politician connection here. How can a guy kill 60 and or drug and rape 200 in modern times without getting caught? They can't be trying to find him with much effort...
 
In the documentary, the director interviews a cop who takes him under a bridge and literally three steps in they run into a guy lurking in the shadows. All these guys are young early 20s guys who 'mysteriously' go poking around under a bridge at 4 in the morning after leaving the bars.

It's crazy how obvious what's going on is but the level of denial is insane.
What's it called? I'll give it a gander if it's available in the US.
 
Dark stuff... Knowing nothing about it except reading the headline blurb it seems there's some negligence and or police/politician connection here. How can a guy kill 60 and or drug and rape 200 in modern times without getting caught? They can't be trying to find him with much effort...

I think it's a combination of the city doesn't want the bad press and the police don't know how to broach the topic without coming off as homophobic or something.
 
Of the 35 recorded drownings, 10 resulted in "open" verdicts. This means the authorities could not prove what caused them. Five more of the deaths are subject to ongoing investigations.

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BBC analysis of the 10 open verdicts revealed there were no suspicious circumstances in at least three of them. The families of two other people who drowned told the BBC they believed their loved ones either took their own lives or died in an accident.

The BBC has found no evidence of any further violent attacks.

Officers have again refuted the claims and say young or gay men do not make up the majority of the deaths.


I guess a serial killer is possible for the 7-12 unproven canal deaths over 10 years, but I'm not seeing the smoking gun connecting all of them to one person.

Especially when the area is known for being dangerous, poorly lit, filled with bars, and a place people drop bodies.
 
I guess a serial killer is possible for the 7-12 unproven canal deaths over 10 years, but I'm not seeing the smoking gun connecting all of them to one person.

Especially when the area is known for being dangerous, poorly lit, filled with bars, and a place people drop bodies.

It's a lot more than that.
 
I'll give it a watch.

But 60 over a 20 year period isn't a lot if you know the Manchester canel areas. I don't find it that unbelievable that 3 a year fall in and drown as they are a Mecca for pissed up/drugged up people and are very easy fall into and very difficult to get out.

The gay scene there is renowned for young males going to university and falling into the chemsex scene and getting fucked up completely on recreationals

I'm more convinced that Brighton has a serial killer giving people a hot dose so they OD.
 
The gay scene there is renowned for young males going to university and falling into the chemsex scene and getting fucked up completely on recreationals

This is what I was looking for. Some on the ground info. The documentary tried to totally gloss over the fact all these dudes were obviously trolling around for dick at 4am.

One of the dads is the poster boy for denial. He's like 'the police just can't explain what our son was doing down there at 3am'
 
I think it's a combination of the city doesn't want the bad press and the police don't know how to broach the topic without coming off as homophobic or something.

I don't think it's anything to do with being afraid to prosecute a gay killer, they had no issues going after Steven Port in a high profile case for example.
 
Was watching a very strange documentary today about the Manchester Pusher.

This is a case of mass delusion at the institutional level. It's absolutely INSANE the level of denial that the families and police exhibit about this.

Almost all guys, almost all early 20s all targeted while cruising in the gay hookup spot under a bridge.

Anyone here in the Manchester area? Is it just open knowledge there what is going on?


Manchester also had a serial gay rapist who drugged and raped almost 200 dudes.


Wtf is going on in Manchester.

If you've ever been out in that area it's insanely hedonistic and drug fuelled. Those deaths could be a mix of accidents and deliberate killings. Gay guys often get ridiculously high on big nights out, and it's riddled with canals and dark walkways. However, there's been more than one sexual predator using that particular scene to his advantage. There was recently some Indonesian student IIRC who date raped dozens and dozens of men he met there. Thing is, if it was a serial killer there doesn't seem to be a sexual element involved which suggests opportunistic robbery/drug deal gone bad because to my knowledge no gay serial killer did it without sex involved.



I'll give it a watch.

But 60 over a 20 year period isn't a lot if you know the Manchester canel areas. I don't find it that unbelievable that 3 a year fall in and drown as they are a Mecca for pissed up/drugged up people and are very easy fall into and very difficult to get out.

The gay scene there is renowned for young males going to university and falling into the chemsex scene and getting fucked up completely on recreationals

I'm more convinced that Brighton has a serial killer giving people a hot dose so they OD.


Expand?! Interesting!
 
This is what I was looking for. Some on the ground info. The documentary tried to totally gloss over the fact all these dudes were obviously trolling around for dick at 4am.

One of the dads is the poster boy for denial. He's like 'the police just can't explain what our son was doing down there at 3am'

Random dick or drugs. Definitely. Could be either.
 
I don't think it's anything to do with being afraid to prosecute a gay killer, they had no issues going after Steven Port in a high profile case for example.

Well everyone's going to have a theory because it's strange as shit.
 
This is what I was looking for. Some on the ground info. The documentary tried to totally gloss over the fact all these dudes were obviously trolling around for dick at 4am.

One of the dads is the poster boy for denial. He's like 'the police just can't explain what our son was doing down there at 3am'
To be honest there could be a few reasons to be walking down there ..short cut home, score drugs, cruising etc. The gay village literally runs alongside a canal.

I've only been out there a few times, and I've been out drinking all over the world, but even I was shocked at just how fucked up on drugs people were around the Gay village area and northern quarter.

If you want a flavour of Manchesters famous night life, look into the Hacienda

Expand?! Interesting!
Not much to expand on unfortunately. But some of my old colleagues dealt with a lot of ODs down there, which dwarfed the national average and they had addicts pleading with them to investigate as their friends were turning up dead in alleyways in weird situations that wasn't their normal
 
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