Man Runs Over Abolish KKKolumbus Day protesters

[Hard To Tell]

so common sense tells you if you see a big group of protesters you have the right to run them over or threaten to run them over???

you think that is going to go over well, huh?? talk about lack of common sense.

If I jumped out onto a public road, stopped someone in their vehicle from going about their daily business and then threatened to drag them out, sock them and kill them, common sense would tell me that they are not going to take too kindly to this and react accordingly.

Who do these people think they are that they can say and do whatever they want, even threaten people with violence and there be no consequences?

I bet these same dickheads probably demand trigger warnings and safe spaces for when anyone even slightly disagrees with anything they have to say.

 

[berimBOWLoh]

Lol @ peaceful protest.

even if they werent peaceful up to that point (no proof either way) more reason to call the cops and not approach them, no??


again, common sense.

 

[LucasWithLidOff]

but we just agreed they have the right to peacefully protest, right??


you are saying you have the right to threaten peaceful protesters with a weapon (in this case, the truck) because they are slowing up your commute??

Not completely right. You can't organize a traffic disrupting protest without a permit.

I didn't see him threatening anything. Just being impatient and meeting antagonistic people with antagonism.

 

[Slippery Kantus]

even if they werent peaceful up to that point (no proof either way) more reason to call the cops and not approach them, no??


again, common sense.

You keep saying common sense like it's some kind of mic drop.

You know what's common sense?

Cars drive on the roads, don't go into the roads if you don't want to risk being run over. Also don't surround a vehicle while threatening the driver with violence, especially when he nowhere else to go.

Again, common sense.

Peaceful protest my ass.

 

[berimBOWLoh]

Not completely right. You can't organize a traffic disrupting protest without a permit.

I didn't see him threatening anything. Just being impatient and meeting antagonistic people with antagonism.

thats why you call the cops if you feel its unlawful.


we disagree about the rev'ing of his engine, words and attitude being threatening, i guess. if my friends were in front of a truck with the driver acting like that i think it would be reasonable to fear for their safety.

 

[Grappleboxing]

If they were threatening to pull him out of the truck, then that could be seen as self defense.

Exactly. I don't blame him for his actions. I'm sure he isn't looking to be the next Reginald Denny.

 

[LucasWithLidOff]

thats why you call the cops if you feel its unlawful.


we disagree about the rev'ing of his engine, words and attitude being threatening, i guess. if my friends were in front of a truck with the driver acting like that i think it would be reasonable to fear for their safety.

Are your friends that ridiculously stupid to not move out of the way? Yeah we disagree on the engine revving, and a jury may be convinced to your side or mine, but the protestors have zero credibility as being peaceful with the audio and video we have.

 

[oldshadow]

after he rev'd the engine and made motions like he was going to run over multiple ppl??


as i asked you earlier, couldnt that be seen as self defense??

No

Here is how this works out.

Unless he is in a stand your ground state when he was threaten he had an oblation to look for a way out and take it if he could without further endangering himself.

This applies to the "protester" who felt threaten at him revving his engine.
They had a duty to retreat from the situation with the greater burden being on them as they were involved in an illegal activity.

If they were surrounding his truck he had every right to escape if he was threating. We say the same ting with that guy that ran over the bikers that threatened him and his family.

 

[Grappleboxing]

To everyone saying he shouldn't have run them over and should have backed up.

How would you feel if he was pulled out of the car and then Reginald Denny'd?

Exactly.

You'd probably do the same thing if you were in his situation. Don't lie.

 

[berimBOWLoh]

Are your friends that ridiculously stupid to not move out of the way? Yeah we disagree on the engine revving, and a jury may be convinced to your side or mine, but the protestors have zero credibility as being peaceful with the audio and video we have.

ive been in protests where we blocked roads.

i didnt hear any threats til he rev'd his engine (the truck even lurched forward when he did)

 

[berimBOWLoh]

To everyone saying he shouldn't have run them over and should have backed up.

How would you feel if he was pulled out of the car and then Reginald Denny'd?

Exactly.

You'd probably do the same thing if you were in his situation. Don't lie.

anybody with any resemblance of common sense would see the protesters from far away and avoid the confrontation. let the cops deal with it.

 

[sangreporsangre]

 

[Slippery Kantus]

anybody with any resemblance of common sense would see the protesters from far away and avoid the confrontation. let the cops deal with it.

If only people had enough common sense to not stand in the middle of the road and then threaten violence towards people for wanting to travel freely on roads their tax dollars paid for.

The law, figure out how it works.

 

[Grappleboxing]

anybody with any resemblance of common sense would see the protesters from far away and avoid the confrontation. let the cops deal with it.

Now that is a fair point, IF he saw the horde of people in the street.

But the video starts at the confrontation. How do we know that he wasn't surrounded when he was driving down the road? What then? How do we know that the back of his truck wasn't surrounded either? What would you have done at that moment? No being to how the situation started, you are there, in his position.

Called the cops? What can they have done? Are they immediately there? Do you know? How do you know that one of the guys who threatened him won't make good on his threat?

I mean, if you want to get Reginald Denny'd, then by all means, go ahead. I'm not going to criticize someone who didn't want to.

 

[chardog]

he rev'd the engine before that, couldnt threatening to pull him out the truck be seen as self defense for the protestors exercising their rights to peacefully protest??? if the guy had a prob he should have called the cops, not rev'd his engine and talked shit to a mob of ppl. Common sense is it wont end well.

these are split second decisions, a scene like this could escalate very fast if you react. Kid reacted, I dont have an issue with it. There's history behind these stop and go violence episodes with the drivers being badly hurt. Reginal Denny? Juneteenth attacks, never take a scene like this lightly. I recall in high school a friend of mine was confronted the same way, but really just over gang violence type of deal. He didnt run over anyone, but did pepper spray a few of the guys blocking his path. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

 

[oldshadow]

ive been in protests were we blocked roads.

i didnt hear any threats til he rev'd his engine (the truck even lurched forward when he did)

And if you blocked people and threatened their lives (or great bodily harm) they could have used whatever force necessary to defend themselves.

If they are blowing their horn for indicating you to move and you refuse you are performing an illegal act and if you surround the car and try to stop them you could be charged with kidnapping or attempted kidnapping (in cases like this it would be rare to see that).

If the person could safely back away (in a none stand your ground state) then they are obligated to do that and let the police handle it.

Once you surround the car all bets are off and they can do what is needed to defend themselves.

 

[DragRacer]

Anybody who puts their family in traffic to form a protest should definitely be run over and removed from the gene pool. This is a fact.

so pretending like he is going to run over a mob of ppl is ok and not threatening at all?? if it was your family in front of his car and he ws honkinig and rev'ing his engine you wouldnt feel you had a reason to defend them???

 

[HereticBD]

Watched the video. It's never okay to run people over, but to be honest, they brought it on themselves. Or at least the guys threatening violence against the driver did. Don't test the nerves of a guy in a two tonne killing machine, when all you have are signs.

 

[Bat Dad]

he felt like his life was in "immigrant danger". Too soon?

 

[berimBOWLoh]

Now that is a fair point, IF he saw the horde of people in the street.

But the video starts at the confrontation. How do we know that he wasn't surrounded when he was driving down the road? What then? How do we know that the back of his truck wasn't surrounded either? What would you have done at that moment? No being to how the situation started, you are there, in his position.

cool, a real conversation about it.


if you listen, the guy tells him "go around". the driver never tried just saying "ok, let me back up and leave" and defuse the situation. it wasnt like it was the only bridge to get out of town being blocked.


kid basically wanted to risk his life and get lippy with a mob of what, 30 ppl?? rev your engine at them and lurch your truck?? you think its ending well with that approach??