Man I know apsinall is glad ngannou left the ufc

[colorles]

Stop making claims out of nothing... you constantly come with your bro science, it's insane.

If you knew anything about the actual science, you would know that if anything, Ngannou is the most likely between both having the more robust bone structure, i mean if we had to guess without proper data.

https://depts.washington.edu/bonebio/bonAbout/race.html

It's a well known fact, yet you constantly come with your bro science about the bone structure of the so-called vikings (word you used yourself in some of your messages).

bone structure i.e. frame type, frame size, attachment points, how wide the clavicles/ribs are, how long the limbs are, hand size, head size, limb to torso ratio, etc...is not the same thing as bone density. i was not talking about bone density

on bone structure/robustness of frame alone, Miocic is the bigger man. similar sized head and wrists/hands on both of them, but wider clavicles and rib cage and longer torso for Miocic. of course Ngannou carries more muscle - west africans are particularly good at putting on lean muscle mass - but on bone structure Miocic is the more robust man

 

[colorles]

prime Miocic makes Ngannou look like a twink on frame by comparison

however Ngannou, being west african, has great genetics for putting on a lot of lean muscle mass. that and PEDs but he gets a pass for that since 99.9 percent of high level athletes are using PEDs anyways

 

[nostradumbass]

Aspinall likely lights up Francis and makes him look slow. Derrick Lewis made him slow ffs. Francis picked a good time to leave.

 

[colorles]

Aspinall likely lights up Francis and makes him look slow. Derrick Lewis made him slow ffs. Francis picked a good time to leave.

Ngannou is a counter puncher though with a clean, powerful check hook. a very different matchup compared to Pavlovich who is a bully who goes forward...and watching the replay of the fight again, Aspinal timed his lunging shots perfectly when Pavlovich was doing that "reset" he does going forward. most fighters have ticks and habits and Aspinal clearly watched film footage before the fight. much like how Ngannou caught Miocic duing his "reset" habit in their second fight which led to the fight ending sequence

Aspinal could very well get caught on the way in by an Ngannou check hook

 

[Portland8242]

The only thing stopping me from picking Aspinall to beat Ngannou is Ngannou's freakish durability.

Pavlovich ain't got no chin like big Frank, that's for damn sure.

Also Tom did get tagged by Sergei in that fight. If that's Ngannou who lands that who the fuck knows what happens.

 

[Portland8242]

Ngannou is a counter puncher though with a clean, powerful check hook. a very different matchup compared to Pavlovich who is a bully who goes forward...and watching the replay of the fight again, Aspinal timed his lunging shots perfectly when Pavlovich was doing that "reset" he does going forward. most fighters have ticks and habits and Aspinal clearly watched film footage before the fight. much like how Ngannou caught Miocic duing his "reset" habit in their second fight which led to the fight ending sequence

Aspinal could very well get caught on the way in by an Ngannou check hook

Ngannou's a legit counter puncher.

You don't counter and drop Fury if you don't know what you're doing.

 

[Marko Polo]

Aspinall isn’t looking to feather his nest like Fraud Jones. He will fight anyone at any time

 

[Yellowcrab]

bone structure i.e. frame type, frame size, attachment points, how wide the clavicles/ribs are, how long the limbs are, hand size, head size, limb to torso ratio, etc...is not the same thing as bone density. i was not talking about bone density

No bone density is the most relevant factor. You continue with your bro science...

https://courses.washington.edu/bonephys/opop/opdem.html

With a more robust bone structure, you don't break your bones more often. Now stop with your ridiculous bro science and try being informed before making claims.

Once again, that's not the first time you spread nonsense about the so-called bone structure.

 

[textwarrior]

The division is now open for business.

Yeah, your not racist.

 

[colorles]

No bone density is the most relevant factor. You continue with your bro science...

https://courses.washington.edu/bonephys/opop/opdem.html

With a more robust bone structure, you don't break your bones more often. Now stop with your ridiculous bro science and try being informed before making claims.

Once again, that's not the first time you spread nonsense about the so-called bone structure.

bone density is important in making bone fractures less likely, yes. but it is a completely different thing from bone structure.

that chart is the absolute basics and is just wideness of clavicles/rib cage. torso to leg length ratio, arm length, hand size, head size, foot size, how long the calf is in proportion to the hamstring...etc and so on are all very much just as important. it goes on and on and this stuff determines the force with which men can run, grapple, throw punches, throw objects like balls and spears, etc. it's all leverage and leverage comes from the bones, how and at which angles they attach, and how much leverage they can provide.

just in very basic terms, Stipe Miocic is a Mesomorph with long torso to leg length ratio. Ngannou is somewhere between a mesomorph and ectomorph with long arms, and long legs to torso ratio. Pavlovich is also a mesomorph with normals legs to torso ratio, who also has long arms.

both Miocic and Pavlovich make Ngannou look like a twink on bone structure alone. Ngannou does have a big head though and combined with his neck and upper back muscles being devoped to the point they look like pistons, his head and brain is very difficult to shake and thus he has a granite chin

 

[Portland8242]

bone density is important in making bone fractures less likely, yes. but it is a completely different thing from bone structure.

that chart is the absolute basics and is just wideness of clavicles/rib cage. torso to leg length ratio, arm length, hand size, head size, foot size, how long the calf is in proportion to the hamstring...etc and so on are all very much just as important. it goes on and on and this stuff determines the force with which men can run, grapple, throw punches, throw objects like balls and spears, etc. it's all leverage and leverage comes from the bones, how and at which angles they attach, and how much leverage they can provide.

just in very basic terms, Stipe Miocic is a Mesomorph with long torso to leg length ratio. Ngannou is somewhere between a mesomorph and ectomorph with long arms, and long legs to torso ratio. Pavlovich is also a mesomorph with normals legs to torso ratio, who also has long arms.

both Miocic and Pavlovich make Ngannou look like a twink on bone structure alone. Ngannou does have a big head though and combined with his neck and upper back muscles being devoped to the point they look like pistons, his head and brain is very difficult to shake and thus he has a granite chin

That chart just copy and pasted the shoulders of the Meso to the Endo

fat people aren't as wide as strong/athletic people, them being fat gives the illusion of them being wide.

 

[colorles]

That chart just copy and pasted the shoulders of the Meso to the Endo

fat people aren't as wide as strong/athletic people, them being fat gives the illusion of them being wide.

i agree i just found that chart really fast. if anything that "endomorph" is a meso endo.

mesomorph is by far the most atthletic starting point for a frame; meso endo and meso ecto vying for a distant second but still pretty athletic overall

 

[TheTribalQueef]

Yeah, your not racist.

But you are I saw your other post and damn talk about projection lol

 

[TheTribalQueef]

We'll never know. Ngannou decided to run to boxing

Dont know? I know hed destroy Aspinall and it wouldnt be close. Run? Lol he just beat the best boxing had þo offer because he'd make more than destroying fighters in the UFC.

 

[TheTribalQueef]

Aspinall likely lights up Francis and makes him look slow. Derrick Lewis made him slow ffs. Francis picked a good time to leave.

Lol Bringing up 2018 Francis as is if he's anything comparable to current Francis. Francis beats him everywhere overwhelms him with raw strength and explosiveness Aspinall gets finished.

 

[TheTribalQueef]

Aspinall likely lights up Francis and makes him look slow. Derrick Lewis made him slow ffs. Francis picked a good time to leave.

Lol Bringing up 2018 Francis as is if he's anything comparable to current Francis. Francis beats him everywhere overwhelms him with raw strength and explosiveness Aspinall doesn't make it out of the

so that guy that knocked out a borderline washed Miocic (while said Miocic bodied Ngannou when they fought in Miocic's prime), and then only defended once and barely won - injury or not - is the "real champ"?

he's done well for himself outside of the UFC. but some sherdoggers are acting like he defended the belt a half dozen times and cleaned out the division

Lmfao Ngannou essentially cleared the division he beat all the contenders back to back before WIPING OUT stipe them beat the number 1 heavyweight before leaving the UFC

Done well for himself?

He beat the fuck out of the wbc heavyweight champion I'd say he's transcended the sport.

 

[TheTribalQueef]

Francis ducked Jones, Stipe rematch, and would get gnp tap to strikes. Tommy bless.

Ducked? He took the rematch with stipe and wiped him out. Stipe wanted no parts of ngannou after that fight. And Jon sat out and waited for Francis to go to PFL before signing to fight.

 

[TheTribalQueef]

Francis ducked Jones, Stipe rematch, and would get gnp tap to strikes. Tommy bless.

Ducked? He took the rematch with stipe and wiped him out. Stipe wanted no parts of ngannou after that fight. And Jon sat out and waited for Francis to go to PFL before returning

And tap to strikes against who? LOL you're delusional first of all aspinall would never take that fight LOL and if he did hed get completely overwhelmed by Francis and finished

 

[fica]

He was weaker, hence why he could not even hurt an exhausted Ngannou.

This fight terrified Stipe so much that he tried another strategy in their next fight by coming lighter but he still got destroyed.

Also, a longer torso like Stipe means more useless mass, because motion comes from the limbs.

It just shows taller guy would destroy francis.and let's stop talking about his boxing with Tyson.tyson did not even train or watch film of a guy and was doing beginner boxing because he thought it would be easy watch next fight between Tyson and Francis. And I love this Francis was exhausted like stipe was fresh just out shower in that moment lol

 

[fightfan70]

The division is now open for business.

not as glad as francis is