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Malik Scott claps back at sherdog's own Tim Witherspoon

Discussion in 'Boxing Discussion' started by GolovKing, Oct 11, 2021.

  1. Badr Hari Brown Belt

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    IDK if Malik did a good job or not. I think Deontay was wrong for taking the rematch. It was so wrong, and it was so unbelievable to me that he activated the clause that I assumed he was just doing it for the payday. As for Malik I liked when in between rounds somewhere late in the fight he was constantly warning Wilder of that left hook of Fury. Everytime Wilder was entering with his own shots Fury got him with a short left hook of his own. Malik tried to warn him and teach him a counter tactic but Deontay was so fucking tired man, you could tell him the most genial tactic at that point and he wasn't in a state where he could execute anything.
     
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  2. TheGreatA Gold Belt

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    I think Wilder is just an impossible case. He's, quite frankly, not the smartest guy around, but has a massive ego and believes he knows everything, even though he's one of the most technically flawed boxers in the sport.

    From what I observed, Malik Scott understands how to deal with Wilder psychologically, which is to basically never confront him on anything and make him think everything you're telling him is his own idea. To a lot of people he comes off as a kiss-ass, but that's basically how you have to be in order to deal with someone that has the personality of a Deontay Wilder. He got some messages through without making Wilder feel like they were being imposed on him.

    If he had had like 4-5 tune-up fights worth of experience training and cornering Wilder, he could have gotten Wilder comfortable doing something outside of his comfort zone. But the way it is right now, the moment Wilder gets tired and feels vulnerable, he's going back to his old tricks.
     
  3. borntoloseNOT Brown Belt

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    Solid take
     
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  4. stuff jones Brown Belt

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    Yeah and came in about 15 lbs too heavy and gassed early. That as you have said was the key to his loss. Why did Scott allow that? Wilder dominated at 220 having unbelievable power and great speed. He was sluggsih last fight, and wore out quickly.
     
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  5. Old Cat Gold Belt

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    i know you asked the Yankee the question but I was reading the thread.

    Thr key word you are using is “ allowed “. No trainer is telling Wilder to do anything. You have to know that by now?
     
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  6. GeneTunney7 Green Belt

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    Pretty much. I thought Scott was crazy for saying the things he was saying ('250% power increase") and giving blowjobs to Deontay vs being a coach, but what I realized is Wilder has such an incredibly fragile ego that he needs to a motivational coach, yes men, more than a boxing coach. If you tell him to do something, he shuts down, but if you make him feel like it was his own idea, he will do it.

    At the end of the day tho, this mentality is not what champions are made out of. Wilder used to be a much better boxer when he was younger and got worse as his got more cocky and started laying people out - so much so that he felt he knew more about boxing than Mark Breland, a technical genius who actually could box. After all, this is the guy that refers to himself as "Your King" (not in a joking sense either) and said "the power of my right is the power of God", so I guess we should not be surprised.

    If Wilder had a better mentality, he should go do what Tyson did: go to a top team, humble himself, live poor and listen to his elders.
     
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  7. Jasonvoorhees Orange Belt

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    Lennox Lewis nailed Razor Ruddock and dropped him heavily with an overhand right in response to Ruddock jabbing him to the body. It’s a risky move against a quick puncher.
     
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  8. mozfonky We oughta be fightin' a bottle of Geritol.

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    Ya, that's the occasion Holyfield called it a no no, yet he did it all the time..
     
  9. Roids Brown Belt

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    Tim was spot on. Glad to here some straight shooting and an honest assessment.
     
  10. Jasonvoorhees Orange Belt

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    Tim also deserved a rematch against Larry Holmes after giving Holmes a much tougher fight than expected in 1983. Witherspoon was a solid fighter when he was focused and well trained, which wasn’t all the time, unfortunately.
     
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    Mike Tyson teamed up with King and fired Rooney.... Later on lost to Kevin McBride....
     
  12. listrahtes Black Belt

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    well Holyfield was the master of the pendulum step. He could time this so expertedly that he wouldnt get hurt. Not many boxers out there at HW who could do that ever.
     

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