Majority of Republicans support marijuana legalization for the first time

Executive branch does not have that power

Not arguing that but how did he make gay marriage legal but can't make medical marijuana legal to help improve lives? Aren't the people in non-legalized states being medically discriminated against by the federal government by not allowing them to have the medication that could help them?
 
Not arguing that but how did he make gay marriage legal but can't make medical marijuana legal to help improve lives? Aren't the people in non-legalized states being medically discriminated against by the federal government by not allowing them to have the medication that could help them?
fuck this argument. i have shingles i need weed1 i hate the color purple i need weed! stop being a pussy, even if you need weed for that. just say it should be legal and we can have a discussion
 
fuck this argument. i have shingles i need weed1 i hate the color purple i need weed! stop being a pussy, even if you need weed for that. just say it should be legal and we can have a discussion

Calm down, I have no problem saying I want it legal lol. I want it to be and think it should be recreationally legal but I think it's criminal that it's at least not legal medically. There are legitimate medical benefits for it and if you had a kid that suffered from seizures you would too think it's criminal to not be able to medicate a child to help them. Also, it must be nice to launch words across a keyboard and call a grown man a pussy. I would bet my shoes you've never looked a man in the eye and called him a pussy!
 
Calm down, I have no problem saying I want it legal lol. I want it to be and think it should be recreationally legal but I think it's criminal that it's at least not legal medically. There are legitimate medical benefits for it and if you had a kid that suffered from seizures you would too think it's criminal to not be able to medicate a child to help them. Also, it must be nice to launch words across a keyboard and call a grown man a pussy. I would bet my shoes you've never looked a man in the eye and called him a pussy!


anyway, medical mj is a joke. seizure kid might benefit from it. anxiety, depression, etc... are just using it to get high, which would be fine if they admitted it. one time i had a toothache and took ecstasy. tooth didn't hurt. maybe tooth pain should be treated with ecstasy. so at least we're at it should be legal now. mushrooms, cocaine, heroin, acid...all have medical uses. this line is a bs one
 


anyway, medical mj is a joke. seizure kid might benefit from it. anxiety, depression, etc... are just using it to get high, which would be fine if they admitted it. one time i had a toothache and took ecstasy. tooth didn't hurt. maybe tooth pain should be treated with ecstasy. so at least we're at it should be legal now. mushrooms, cocaine, heroin, acid...all have medical uses. this line is a bs one


It's hard to have a conversation with someone who is completely uneducated about a topic and spews BS because it's their belief and not factual. Do some research. Educate yourself. Then you can have an informed discussion about it.
 


anyway, medical mj is a joke. seizure kid might benefit from it. anxiety, depression, etc... are just using it to get high, which would be fine if they admitted it. one time i had a toothache and took ecstasy. tooth didn't hurt. maybe tooth pain should be treated with ecstasy. so at least we're at it should be legal now. mushrooms, cocaine, heroin, acid...all have medical uses. this line is a bs one


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I'm sure this kid just wants to get high you flippin hay rake.
 
It's hard to have a conversation with someone who is completely uneducated about a topic and spews BS because it's their belief and not factual. Do some research. Educate yourself. Then you can have an informed discussion about it.
i know if i rub it on my elbow i'll throw faster than roger clemens and if i rub cannabis oil on a polio vaccine it cures cancer. i've read all the shitty documents. it does seem to help with seizures, but more generally it seems to help with things you forget about when you're high like insomnia
 
It was only a matter of time. Now that we left the dark ages behind(pre-internet), it's much harder keeping people in the dark about weed. Or many other substances and ideas. No longer can you just sit back and play the while boogeyman card.

We actually can get out of our own beds, turn the light on, and see It's not some demon hiding, waiting to take our kids from us.
 
It's hard to have a conversation with someone who is completely uneducated about a topic and spews BS because it's their belief and not factual. Do some research. Educate yourself. Then you can have an informed discussion about it.
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The evidence shows that pot is available legally, use of harder drugs goes down.
Almost like the point I made earlier was spot on. I said connecting marijuana with black market drug dealers is more of a gateway than wanting a greater high is.
 
You talking about CA's success with medical? Because they're completely botching the retail so far. Granted it's about 2 months away from being implemented, but you have a bunch of city council's banning retail shops in cities that voted over 60% to pass Prop 64 (i.e. Palo Alto).

City Councils and County Boards control dick fuckall. Any city that bans dispensaries in a legal state is going to have dispensaries precisely 1inch on the other side of all their borders at major road arteries.

See: Every county/city in America that banned strip clubs or alcohol sales on Sunday have a strip club or beer store directly on their border at every major road artery in and out.
 
Portugal shows decriminalizing all of them improves every metric
I don't have much doubt that prohibition has negative consequences even in so much as it makes medical research very difficult. I think about how much further ahead we'd be on pot research right now if it hadn't been prohibited for totally bullshit reasons ditto acid and shrooms and it makes me a little sick to my stomach, the thought of all that potential progress gone to waste.
 
I don't have much doubt that prohibition has negative consequences even in so much as it makes medical research very difficult. I think about how much further ahead we'd be on pot research right now if it hadn't been prohibited for totally bullshit reasons ditto acid and shrooms and it makes me a little sick to my stomach, the thought of all that potential progress gone to waste.

We are quite on schedule for the msot part actually, though i would love more research into things like anxiety/PTSD, as my experience with our patients are highly mixed in terms of success with these conditions.


Here are a link to studies a well as a cannabis pharmacology text.

https://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000884

http://catnews.org/FREE Pot Books/Roger G. Pertwee - Handbook of Cannabis.pdf
781 pages of its biochem, studies and case studies etc.
 
The problem w/ cannabis and the GOP is mostly the religious right and old people in general. I don't understand where the Jesus connection to any particular anti-cannabis dogma comes from beyond religion being generally prudish, and church ladies being teatotalling scolds. Old people have had 70 years of government propaganda lies beaten into their heads, but they're being phased out the natural way.

The truth was denied and hidden for 70 years but the cat's out of the bag now. The dominoes are falling. The prohibitionists will continue to resist, kicking and screaming, but are just hanging on by their fingernails at this point. It'll all be over pretty soon as states continue to assert their authority.


Smoking is considered a vice by christian conservatives vice is a sin.
 
people dont want to admit marijiana is a gateway drug but this is exactly why it is

with it being legal, you wouldnt have to go to drug dealers that want you on harder drugs that are easier to cut (higher profits)


this is absolute bullshit

marijuana has no significant correlation with getting violent nor is it addictive enough that someone "hooked on pot" is going to need to rob people for their fix

not all drugs are equal. For sure lots of drugs should be illegal. If there was a drug that made someone in a literal zombie we cant do the whole "your body" argument and pretend its equivalent


All drugs are equal? Like all cultures are equal?

I say different drugs hard to judge
 
It's hard to have a conversation with someone who is completely uneducated about a topic and spews BS because it's their belief and not factual. Do some research. Educate yourself. Then you can have an informed discussion about it.
Marijuana helps kids with seizures which is why I should be allowed to smoke it?
 
We are quite on schedule for the msot part actually, though i would love more research into things like anxiety/PTSD, as my experience with our patients are highly mixed in terms of success with these conditions.


Here are a link to studies a well as a cannabis pharmacology text.

https://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000884

http://catnews.org/FREE Pot Books/Roger G. Pertwee - Handbook of Cannabis.pdf
781 pages of its biochem, studies and case studies etc.
On what schedule? I'm saying prohibition inhibited medical research for decades. I don't get your point.
And yeah, I wouldn't say you'll have guaranteed success with pot in treating PTSD in particular; psychedelics seem to be a better avenue to pursue on that front.
 
On what schedule? I'm saying prohibition inhibited medical research for decades. I don't get your point.
And yeah, I wouldn't say you'll have guaranteed success with pot in treating PTSD in particular; psychedelics seem to be a better avenue to pursue on that front.

We have a comparable amount of evidence for the use of cannabis medicinally and recreationally even, that we would for say a standard round of fentanyl or percocet (quit literally the research is more limited here in terms of use and benefit, but we know its drawbacks better since people die often from this opioid pandemnic), or physio treatment for plantar fasciitis. The larger link is quite dry but if you read it thoroughly and have a medical background or health background, you can see how we actually have a considerable amount of evidence. Especially since we have been using it for thousands of years. There is an abundant amount of efficacy behind it.

So, on schedule in terms of knowledge really, or otherwise, not really interfered with in this regard from my perspective. More so, interfered with in terms of industry and $ and sin off industries like hemp.
Shit should have been legal decades ago, and I agree psychadelics may be useful for things like anxiety and PTSD, but i've only begun reading on it. Any sources you'd recommend?
 
I'm a conservative and have been in favour of legalisation, regulation and taxation of marijauna for a very long time. I think if you remove seniors from the equation most people are. Granted I think a distinction needs to be made between regulation (similar to the alcohol model) and blanket legalisation.
I'm of the same view. Although, hearing potheads trying to rationalise recreational pot use being legalised by pointing to the value of medicinal use is embarrassing. To them I say - just admit you want to get high and save the intellectual dishonesty and posturing.
 
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