Major chip flaws affect billions of devices (Lol fuk this gay earth & Bigly brother is watching you)

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Two major flaws in computer chips could leave a huge number of computers and smartphones vulnerable to security concerns, researchers revealed Wednesday.

Links Source 1 : http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/03/technology/computer-chip-flaw-security/index.html (General Thread Link)

Links Source 2 : http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/04/tec...e-macs-ios-spectre-meltdown/index.html?iid=EL (All iPhones, iPads and Macs affected by chip flaws)

And a U.S. government-backed body warned that the chips themselves need to be replaced to completely fix the problems.

The flaws could allow an attacker to read sensitive data stored in the memory, like passwords, or look at what tabs someone has open on their computer, researchers found. Daniel Gruss, a researcher from Graz University of Technology who helped identify the flaw, said it may be difficult to execute an attack, but billions of devices were impacted.

Called Meltdown and Spectre, the flaws exist in processors, a building block of computers that acts as the brain. Modern processors are designed to perform something called "speculative execution." That means they predict what tasks they will be asked to execute and rapidly access multiple areas of memory at the same time.

That data is supposed to be protected and isolated, but researchers discovered that in some cases, the information can be exposed while the processor queues it up.

Researchers say almost every computing system -- desktops, laptops, smartphones, and cloud servers -- is affected by the Spectre bug. Meltdown appears to be specific to Intel (INTC) chips.

"More specifically, all modern processors capable of keeping many instructions in flight are potentially vulnerable. In particular, we have verified Spectre on Intel, AMD, and ARM processors," the researchers said.

Government agencies issued statements warning users about the vulnerabilities.

The U.S. Computer Emergency Readiness Team said that while the flaws "could allow an attacker to obtain access to sensitive information," it's not so far aware of anyone doing so.

The agency urged people to read a detailed statement on the vulnerabilities by the Software Engineering Institute, a U.S.-government funded body that researches cybersecurity problems.

The institute said that "fully removing the vulnerability requires replacing vulnerable [processor] hardware."

It later changed its guidance on Thursday to suggest updating software was enough. The institute didn't say why it had made the change and didn't immediately respond to a request for further information.

It said the problems affect technology giants including Apple, Google and Microsoft.

Intel chips are found in everything from personal computers to medical equipment. The company's shares were down 3% on Wednesday.

The company said in a press release that "many types of computing devices — with many different vendors' processors and operating systems — are susceptible to these exploits."

Intel said it is working with other chipmakers, including AMD and ARM Holdings, to solve the issue. ARM said in a statement a small subset of its processors are susceptible to the flaws. AMD said in a statement there is a "near zero risk of exploitation" for one of the security issues, due to architecture differences.
 
Like I needed more reasons not to buy Apple product.
 
Am I the only one who doesn't care about this stuff?
 
Am I the only one who doesn't care about this stuff?
I suppose only the un-intelligent don't care.

It should be pretty obvious why this is a problem, like do you enjoy having you're privacy violated. You know its a constitutional right yeah.
 
Am I the only one who doesn't care about this stuff?
You should.

Not from a security standpoint, but from a performance standpoint.

Theres a good chance you're on an Intel machine, and depending on the year of the model, you may see some noticeable performance hits.
 
It's anything with the microprocessor from nests smart home thermostats to Tesla CPUs and home computers.

I understand that, but a large number of Apple devices(Basically all) are affected without a doubt.
 
You should.

Not from a security standpoint, but from a performance standpoint.

Theres a good chance you're on an Intel machine, and depending on the year of the model, you may see some noticeable performance hits.

I have seen some performance issues actually but I figured it was from the Apple slowdown or whatever.
 
I have seen some performance issues actually but I figured it was from the Apple slowdown or whatever.
What year is your Mac from? It's definitely possible the performance issue is related. Apple released their OS update to patch this I believe in November. This thing was kept under wraps for some time.

Lol at thinking this is only affecting macs. As if Macs are the only machines using Intel hardware. Its not even proprietary Intel chips in these Macs. Basically the same chip used in a macbook pro can be used in an HP, Dell, Lenovo, etc. This is a hardware flaw, not software.
 
the patch for Windows 10 is out, anyone seen benchmarks yet? I read that for it to work properly mobo firmware also needs updating.
 
What year is your Mac from? It's definitely possible the performance issue is related. Apple released their OS update to patch this I believe in November. This thing was kept under wraps for some time.

Lol at the dude up top thinking this is only affecting macs. As if Macs are the only machines using Intel hardware. Its not even proprietary Intel chips in these Macs. Basically the same chip used in a macbook pro can be used in an HP, Dell, Lenovo, etc. This is a hardware flaw, not software.

It's actually on my iphone 6S. I went into Apple the other day and they said I needed a new battery.
 
It's actually on my iphone 6S. I went into Apple the other day and they said I needed a new battery.
Nice! I know they recently had this whole battery fiasco. It run better since?
 
Nice! I know they recently had this whole battery fiasco. It run better since?

Well I went in and after waiting 2 hours I was told they had to order my battery at a cost of 31.00 to me. I will receive a call when it is in. I'll keep you posted though
 
I understand that, but a large number of Apple devices(Basically all) are affected without a doubt.

The reason why "All" Macs are affected is because they are all using Intel hardware. I believe this was a big thing when Steve Jobs was around, all Macs would be switching over to Intel. HP, Dell, etc are using Intel but also have some models using AMD as well. Thus not as prevelant. I believe they said all vendors are affected by the flaw, though.
 
the patch for Windows 10 is out, anyone seen benchmarks yet? I read that for it to work properly mobo firmware also needs updating.
Hardware Unboxed on YouTube did some synthetics and gaming benchmarks with a 8700k and 2600k, only difference is 4K read speeds took a pretty big hit.
For the home user, odds are you won't see any difference.
Data centers and stuff like that are what's going to be affected.


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Tech Yes City tested games and Adobe Premiere with a first gen Xeon X5670 and seen no differences.
 
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I suppose only the un-intelligent don't care.

It should be pretty obvious why this is a problem, like do you enjoy having you're privacy violated. You know its a constitutional right yeah.
Our privacy is long gone bro.
 
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