Magic the Gathering removes "racist" cards from its library

[Jack Stevonovich]

One of the founders of the #BLM movement:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alicia_Garza

You're making a false equivelancy, Madmick, see MTG putting foreward the card as a sacrifice as a show of solidarity with BLM and as some form of admittance of being a part of the problem. Isn't Marxism it's Capitalizing on the situation. It's part of a 'race washing' campaign to increase their status and potential market value. It's multifaceted though because on the other hand it will trigger the right who is "pissed at woke politics' and their ingrained redscare fears who will complain about it and market their product for them on social media. So all of a sudden MTG is a relevant conversation. That is pure marketing... that's capitalism dude. The Irony is you are complaining about capitalism and the people that are going to agree with you are the Marxists.

 

[Hadron90]

You think the movement to stop having police executing black people in the streets is some kind of marxist plot? Lmaoooo. You people are all caricatures. Like I cant even parody you because your own genuine positions are self parody.

Pretty sure the protestors are pretty explicit about this.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Goblins are supposedly making a comeback in core set 2021.

I gotta stop talkin about magic or ima be broke and playin again. Pump weenie decks rock. I was able to make them with every color but blue cuz i didnt have all the merfolk to pull it off and it was on my list of decks to build before i stopped playin a lot. Ibwas too busy few years back when goblins vs merfolk came out and didnt buy 4 packs like i usually do to get all that good shit i needed.

My fave card for drunken magic games with friends was the mogg asassin. Might get you might get them but it always brought the lols.

Had an elf deck backed with red spells that all my friends told me was cheatimg cuz they were all poor and i spent a small fortune to make that deck a killer.

Had a dragon deck with a buncha cheater cards to get em in play early but i never was fully able to make that one work the way i wanted despite the fact every card in it was worth a lot.

God damn this thread. I need like a magic the gathering aa meeting asap

 

[Diogenes of Sinope]

You're making a false equivelancy, Madmick, see MTG putting foreward the card as a sacrifice as a show of solidarity with BLM and as some form of admittance of being a part of the problem. Isn't Marxism it's Capitalizing on the situation. It's part of a 'race washing' campaign to increase their status and potential market value. It's multifaceted though because on the other hand it will trigger the right who is "pissed at woke politics' and their ingrained redscare fears who will complain about it and market their product for them on social media. So all of a sudden MTG is a relevant conversation. That is pure marketing... that's capitalism dude. The Irony is you are complaining about capitalism and the people that are going to agree with you are the Marxists.

You're right, but I'd also like to call out the hypocrisy of the left who loves cancel culture, which wouldn't survive in a marxist/socialist society.

Also lol at socialist dems defending social media platforms like twitter that have censorship policies because "they're a private company."
make up your minds

 

[Madmick]

You just helped me prove that the definition isn't solely restricted to members of the National Socialistic German Workers' Party. Thanks.

You also don't disprove the other specific definition I gave by cherry-picking one dictionary since I didn't say that all dictionaries define it like that, I said that there are common ones that do, which is a fact.

This isn't cherry-picking. There is a right and a wrong when it comes to language. "Literal Nazi" invokes a very specific parameter of that term. It isn't a figurative denotation.

 

[brackis1]

It's not book burning if you make everything digital first and then censor or remove it that way.



Go try to find a copy of Huckleberry Finn that hasn't been censored and changed long after Mark Twain's death. Meriam Webster is changing word definitions at the behest of some 20 year old college student.

Why don't you pussies just make your case for censorship instead of denying it happens and then scrambling for excuses when example after example is pointed out and claiming that's not real censorship you didn't like the thing that was censored anyway. Don't be such weasels trying to filibuster and lawyer your way out of any consistent stance. Of you can't have consistent standards or values because your masters leave you constantly having to support something that you previously denied even happens.

Nobody is stopping you from making a life size MTG Hitler Card with a fleshlight embedded in it.

You're making a false equivelancy, Madmick, see MTG putting foreward the card as a sacrifice as a show of solidarity with BLM and as some form of admittance of being a part of the problem. Isn't Marxism it's Capitalizing on the situation. It's part of a 'race washing' campaign to increase their status and potential market value. It's multifaceted though because on the other hand it will trigger the right who is "pissed at woke politics' and their ingrained redscare fears who will complain about it and market their product for them on social media. So all of a sudden MTG is a relevant conversation. That is pure marketing... that's capitalism dude. The Irony is you are complaining about capitalism and the people that are going to agree with you are the Marxists.

Thanks for saving me some typing.
I can't believe he is allowed to mod here while slinging these rants. (fwiw I'd be disqualified too)

 

[Rational Poster]

I gotta stop talkin about magic or ima be broke and playin again. Pump weenie decks rock. I was able to make them with every color but blue cuz i didnt have all the merfolk to pull it off and it was on my list of decks to build before i stopped playin a lot. Ibwas too busy few years back when goblins vs merfolk came out and didnt buy 4 packs like i usually do to get all that good shit i needed.

My fave card for drunken magic games with friends was the mogg asassin. Might get you might get them but it always brought the lols.

Had an elf deck backed with red spells that all my friends told me was cheatimg cuz they were all poor and i spent a small fortune to make that deck a killer.

Had a dragon deck with a buncha cheater cards to get em in play early but i never was fully able to make that one work the way i wanted despite the fact every card in it was worth a lot.

God damn this thread. I need like a magic the gathering aa meeting asap

Stop being a pussy just download Magic Arena, it's free.

 

[Final Say]

Reminds me of someone.







"You people".

You said the BLM movement is responsible for riots and destruction

If you don’t believe all police are responsible for unjustified murders of individual officers, you are a hypocrite. Utilize better thinking.

 

[Rational Poster]

This isn't cherry-picking. There is a right and a wrong when it comes to language. "Literal Nazi" invokes a very specific parameter of that term. It isn't a figurative denotation.

 

[Final Say]

You said the BLM movement is responsible for riots and destruction

If you don’t believe all police are responsible for unjustified murders of individual officers, you are a hypocrite. Utilize better thinking.

Indicidual citizens, not officers

 

[Prokofievian]

I wanna play some MTG now.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Stop being a pussy just download Magic Arena, it's free.

Is arena standard/type 2 or is it open legacy ? Lemme get some details

 

[Gutter Chris]

I wanna play some MTG now.

Me too

 

[Jack Stevonovich]

You're right, but I'd also like to call out the hypocrisy of the left who loves cancel culture, which wouldn't survive in a marxist/socialist society.

Also lol at socialist dems defending social media platforms like twitter that have censorship policies because "they're a private company."
make up your minds

The internet is tricky. Spaces need to be moderated it can't be a complete and utter free for all everywhere. Sherdog is a good example of this with spaces like the war room and the Mayberry side by side.

 

[Diogenes of Sinope]

The internet is tricky. Spaces need to be moderated it can't be a complete and utter free for all everywhere. Sherdog is a good example of this with spaces like the war room and the Mayberry side by side.

War room is more of an open forum for opposing viewpoints vs Twitter and Reddit tbh.

 

[Rational Poster]

Is arena standard/type 2 or is it open legacy ? Lemme get some details

It has standard best of 1 and best of 3, limited sealed/draft, and a special arena only format called historic which is sort of like modern or pioneer, but not quite as many cards available.

Historic is basically every card from every set that's been legal in arena standard plus a small selection of even older cards from older formats.

They also have brawl which is sort of like commander and special events that have unique rules or conditions. Like they'll have a pauper standard event or whatever.

 

[Jack Stevonovich]

War room is more of an open forum for opposing viewpoints vs Twitter and Reddit tbh.

sherdog does it well because it's moderated. Sherdog is actually an amazing example of diversity and coexistence in a lot of ways.

Twitter is such a giant Platform though so I don't know how they can really go about moderating it.

 

[Gutter Chris]

It has standard best of 1 and best of 3, limited sealed/draft, and a special arena only format called historic which is sort of like modern or pioneer, but not quite as many cards available.

Historic is basically every card from every set that's been legal in arena standard plus a small selection of even older cards from older formats.

They also have brawl which is sort of like commander and special events that have unique rules or conditions. Like they'll have a pauper standard event or whatever.

Historic sounds like something id like. I might actually have to check that out. Thanks dude

 

[Ruprecht]

Interestingly last year a European game had the artwork redone for the US (after complaints) because of the specific history of American racial stereotypes.

Personally I looked at the cover and didn't see the issue.

Spoiler

...but then the "buck toothed Asian" stereotype wasn't really a thing here.
The new artwork didn't really change much.

Spoiler

 

[Madmick]

You're making a false equivelancy, Madmick, see MTG putting foreward the card as a sacrifice as a show of solidarity with BLM and as some form of admittance of being a part of the problem. Isn't Marxism it's Capitalizing on the situation. It's part of a 'race washing' campaign to increase their status and potential market value. It's multifaceted though because on the other hand it will trigger the right who is "pissed at woke politics' and their ingrained redscare fears who will complain about it and market their product for them on social media. So all of a sudden MTG is a relevant conversation. That is pure marketing... that's capitalism dude.

My explanation for their behavior is rooted in the company's explicit rhetoric. Your explanation for their behavior is rooted in a speculative conspiracy theory about the company's aim to exploit a controversy for exposure when that very dialogue carries far more potential for risk than reward. Just look at the calls already threatening those who would have perpetrated the conspiracy-- management-- to "diversity" their ranks; meaning many among them will have to be fired and replaced by non-white executives. Quite simply, Occam's Razor dictates my explanation is much more likely to be the correct one.

The Irony is you are complaining about capitalism and the people that are going to agree with you are the Marxists.

Another example of how your bias misleads you. This is plainly wrong. Look at this thread. Those who are Marxists or socialists are the ones disagreeing with me. They are also the ones cheering this maneuver.

This is yet more evidence that my reading is the correct one.