Social MAGA 2025 Civil war incoming! Vivek Ramaswamy Betrays Base & reveals true colors, Says Americans SUCK !!

[KnightTemplar]

MAGA claimed that electing "billionaire," socialite, trust fund baby, country club elite Trump was breaking that cycle.
Way to walk it back now.

Yeah, and Dems claimed a woman who spent a Billion dollars in three months and ended up not only losing but being $20 million in debt was the best choice to run the US Economy.

Newsflash: both sides say dumb shit.

 

[KnightTemplar]

With the proliferation of tech we have a new elite class, NERDS. Gates, Musk, Bezos, Zuck, etc etc. Revenge of the Nerds indeed lol

 

[Corona]

I’ve never heard of Laura boomer but sounds like her vs Elon cucks needs to be the next wrestlemania headliner imo.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Yeah, and Dems claimed a woman who spent a Billion dollars in three months and ended up not only losing but being $20 million in debt was the best choice to run the US Economy.

Newsflash: both sides say dumb shit.

Newsflash: Harris didn't win because a lot of the left hated her and her positions on Trans stuff & Israel.
Newsflash: that has nothing to do with the conversation. Randomly deflect Whatabotism & false equivalence rift elsewhere
Talking about the actual President elect and the clowns he appointed infighting.
MAGA said Trump was the end of the establishment and elites....period. We are talking MAGA governmental agencies and politics.

 

[SKYNET]

you'll let your elected leaders publicly shit all over you and ask for more because you are too dumb to even admit you're wrong about something.

You guys can't contain yourselves lately.

Last minute 2024 quote of the year nominee

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Reading comprehension? Lol

There is a special needs teacher at your school that can help you with this. Unfortunately I can't help you my child.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Newsflash: Harris didn't win because a lot of the left hated her and her positions on Trans stuff & Israel.
Newsflash: that has nothing to do with the conversation. Randomly deflect Whatabotism & false equivalence rift elsewhere
Talking about the actual President elect and the clowns he appointed infighting.
MAGA said Trump was the end of the establishment and elites....period. We are talking MAGA governmental agencies and politics.

And most people didn't believe that Trump would destroy the Establishment. Anymore than they believed you Libtards screeching about Trump being Diet Hitler who would destroy democracy. Although I haven't completely given up hope on that...

 

[Mr Holmes]

There is a special needs teacher at your school that can help you with this. Unfortunately I can't help you my child.

Lol, tuck your dick and run away.

 

[ChosenOne]

Will this be a thread where conservatives ignore the topic and instead hide in a "illegal immigrants did something wrong" thread?

They simply do not know what their positions should be until Trump speaks and takes a position on this.

Elon taking away "free speech" from other magats who are speaking out as Vivek alls white people "culture" inferior.... common Trump respond so we, th magats, know what our position is????

 

[ChosenOne]

Nah, you guys are just shocked because you don't have it your programming to disagree with a billionaire on your side.

hahahaha

your political insights always amuse me due to how stupid and wrong they are. The 'left' far more broadly than the right has the history of calling out billionaires and money in politics.

Magats cared about Soros while celebrating Murdock and Musk whereas the left, outside the corporate Dems, mostly decried all of it.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

And most people didn't believe that Trump would destroy the Establishment. Anymore than they believed you Libtards screeching about Trump being Diet Hitler who would destroy democracy. Although I haven't completely given up hope on that...

He literally ran on that platform dummy. His sheep believe whatever sales pitch he throws at them.
Losing rights is a form of eroding our democracy. Not interested in your goofy fake edgelord take on it.
Again off topic. Random nonsense.

Lol, tuck your dick and run away.

You literally provided nothing of substance or on topic in your reply. Why would I run from a simpleton coward that doesn't understand the issue & doesn't have an intellectually honest counter point of substance?

 

[WklySportsMemes]

hahahaha

your political insights always amuse me due to how stupid and wrong they are.

Quoted because he needs to hear this again.

 

[Mr Holmes]

hahahaha

your political insights always amuse me due to how stupid and wrong they are. The 'left' far more broadly than the right has the history of calling out billionaires and money in politics.

Magats cared about Soros while celebrating Murdock and Musk whereas the left, outside the corporate Dems, mostly decried all of it.

Yeah, I'm sure thats why Harris had far more Billionaires funding her campaign. Every time Soros or Gates do anything you guys gush and fawn over them. You guys even went full on sucking off big pharma. Do you ever get tired of embarrassing yourself?

 

[Cajun]

They litterally put billionaires in a position of power over a new grifty government agency... You don't think billionaires in positions of power have any say or influence? One being the richest man in the world that directly controls the biggest media platform in the US.

They are fighting & literally threatening it so hard that you don't think that these visas were part of their silly plan to cut cost and downsize the government?????????

So naive....

MAGA claims to be against the establishment. Then they appoint 2 giant ELITE billionaire techbro griftlords to positions of power.
" Don't worry billionaire con artist in positions of power threatening people won't have any impact on anything because MAGA & daddy Trump"

You guys are so clueless about the real elite and the establishment, that it's literally forming right before your eyes & you dismiss it.
Comical

I guess we will see if he gets congress to increase the number of visas then. I'm not worried about it... congress need to get reelected as well. Depends on their constituents. Would you be opposed to increasing skilled labor immigrants or the number that are educated here? So if he does as you say he will... you would be angry? I'm not anti immigration BTW and especially for peeps educated here. But if the border gets secured and the millions that were crossing the last 4 years gone....still meh... just saying if it happens then you can come back and tell me how much I was wrong... was grifted as you say... until then what's the point? Just trolling...But I'd take another 85k over the millions crossing at the moment.

 

[ChosenOne]

Yeah, I'm sure thats why Harris had far more Billionaires funding her campaign. Every time Soros or Gates do anything you guys gush and fawn over them. You guys even went full on sucking off big pharma. Do you ever get tired of embarrassing yourself?

As Maga puts Billionaires in charge of almost every department in their incoming administration and ONLY Dems limit big pharma profits, putting money in magats and other pockets while magats want those rescinded so they can pay more...

Trump Is Turning the White House Into a Billionaire Time-Share​

Targeting costly meds, Biden admin asserts authority to seize certain drug patents​

But sure Mr Holmes, there are no issues with billlionaires in Magat'land and Trump will certainly spend a lot of his political capital fighting big pharma to save every day citizens money, while trying to cut the corporate profits.

We just need to watch right?

 

[Cajun]

Newsflash: Harris didn't win because a lot of the left hated her and her positions on Trans stuff & Israel.
Newsflash: that has nothing to do with the conversation. Randomly deflect Whatabotism & false equivalence rift elsewhere
Talking about the actual President elect and the clowns he appointed infighting.
MAGA said Trump was the end of the establishment and elites....period. We are talking MAGA governmental agencies and politics.

There is no end to the establishments or elite... they will always be with us

 

[nixkid]

I don't see anything innately bad about what they've said and it's just their opinions. They don't control any of the things they are speaking on here. They are to look at reducing govt waste. Good area for them to look at but they can voice opinions as well on other things.

Don't overlook Musk's influence though. He doesn't have much direct power but he's currently one of, if not the most, influential people in Washington. He's already threatened Republican members of Congress who don't fall in line with his money. Mid-terms are only 2 years away and they have historically not gone well for the sitting President's party. Musk could flood the campaign season with money if he chooses. And that money could either go to helping incumbent Republicans get re-elected or it could go to primary challengers to oust them. Republicans in Congress tend to follow the money and the threats only provide additional incentive.

Also note that the Democratic base aren't nearly as xenophobic as the Republican base, Democrats in Congress haven't embraced a strategy of opposing everything the other party does like Republicans, and many members of Congress represent districts with large immigrant communities. So it is likely that many Democrats would support increasing quotas and Musk won't have to rely on only Republican support.

The other wildcard is Trump. He'll obviously need Trump's support to do it. And there are many scenarios in which he could get Trump's support.

First, he's already spent $250 million to get Trump elected. And we've seen Trump be loyal to people who have donated large sums of money. For example, his complete 180 on the Tik Tok is driven by a Trump donor who is an investor in Tik Tok.

Secondly, the Trump administration isn't just Trump. It also includes JD Vance who is Peter Thiel's blood boy. Peter Thiel, also being a silicon valley billionaire, is likely very much in favor of increasing H1-B quotas too. Thiel will likely wield a lot of influence from within via Vance. There is a universe where Trump mails it in and decides to kick back and enjoy his immunity from criminal prosecution while others do the day to day work.

And lastly, If Musk were very serious and Trump needed additional incentive then he could also have X acquire Truth for a premium and line Trump's pockets with a few billion dollars. His net worth doubled since Trump won. He's got a little pocket change to throw around. I don't think he's do that solely for the H1-Bs but he may do it in order to push through a number of things which might include the increased quota.

Once Trump is on board, it muddies the water for MAGAs in Congress. Traditionally, MAGA has just done whatever Trump tells them to do. If he supports Musk on this then they may be stuck between a rock and a hard place trying to figure out if this MAGA revolt has legs and if it will hurt them politically. Betting against Trump's influence over the Republican party has consistently been a loser though so I think many would just side with Trump.

 

[KnightTemplar]

He literally ran on that platform dummy. His sheep believe whatever sales pitch he throws at them.
Losing rights is a form of eroding our democracy. Not interested in your goofy fake edgelord take on it.
Again off topic. Random nonsense.

You literally provided nothing of substance or on topic in your reply. Why would I run from a simpleton coward that doesn't understand the issue & doesn't have an intellectually honest counter point of substance?

Wait, you actually believe in Democracy? Awww - that's just adorable!

 

[Phisher]

As entertaining as this is, the Musk/Vivek contingent already won on this issue. Trump already said that smart foreign students should get green cards when they graduate from US colleges back in June, but it was ignored by MAGAs because they always disregard whatever Trump says that they don't like (unless it's about vaccines).

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-foreign-college-graduates-should-automatically-get-green-cards-2024-06-20/

This administration is already filled with billionaires who share this philosophy.

Trump is staying quiet while Elon and Vivek turn themselves into scapegoats. However, Vance is still the embodiment of this same mentality, and he's not going anywhere.


...and when Trump does publicly reaffirm his position on this, most of the people complaining will shut up because MAGA is just a cult of personality where the followers ignore all of the dear leader's contradictions.

 

[Cajun]

Don't overlook Musk's influence though. He doesn't have much direct power but he's currently one of, if not the most, influential people in Washington. He's already threatened Republican members of Congress who don't fall in line with his money. Mid-terms are only 2 years away and they have historically not gone well for the sitting President's party. Musk could flood the campaign season with money if he chooses. And that money could either go to helping incumbent Republicans get re-elected or it could go to primary challengers to oust them. Republicans in Congress tend to follow the money and the threats only provide additional incentive.

Also note that the Democratic base aren't nearly as xenophobic as the Republican base, Democrats in Congress haven't embraced a strategy of opposing everything the other party does like Republicans, and many members of Congress represent districts with large immigrant communities. So it is likely that many Democrats would support increasing quotas and Musk won't have to rely on only Republican support.

The other wildcard is Trump. He'll obviously need Trump's support to do it. And there are many scenarios in which he could get Trump's support.

First, he's already spent $250 million to get Trump elected. And we've seen Trump be loyal to people who have donated large sums of money. For example, his complete 180 on the Tik Tok is driven by a Trump donor who is an investor in Tik Tok.

Secondly, the Trump administration isn't just Trump. It also includes JD Vance who is Peter Thiel's blood boy. Peter Thiel, also being a silicon valley billionaire, is likely very much in favor of increasing H1-B quotas too. Thiel will likely wield a lot of influence from within via Vance. There is a universe where Trump mails it in and decides to kick back and enjoy his immunity from criminal prosecution while others do the day to day work.

And lastly, If Musk were very serious and Trump needed additional incentive then he could also have X acquire Truth for a premium and line Trump's pockets with a few billion dollars. His net worth doubled since Trump won. He's got a little pocket change to throw around. I don't think he's do that solely for the H1-Bs but he may do it in order to push through a number of things which might include the increased quota.

Once Trump is on board, it muddies the water for MAGAs in Congress. Traditionally, MAGA has just done whatever Trump tells them to do. If he supports Musk on this then they may be stuck between a rock and a hard place trying to figure out if this MAGA revolt has legs and if it will hurt them politically. Betting against Trump's influence over the Republican party has consistently been a loser though so I think many would just side with Trump.

Finally... someone not trolling in one of these threads and providing some honest feedback. Thanks for the post bud. Those are valid things that could happen. Money makes both sides move in terms of establishment. Let me get back in a bit. My kids wanna have a battle