Lorenzo destroying FPWs (Fighter Pay Warriors)

[SingerAuto]

MLB, NFL, NBA ... They all have substantial costs including owning freaking stadiums , TV networks and minor league teams and parks. Yet they manage to fairly pay their athletes.

The Fertitas aren't owning anyone but the fighters. But until the fighters stand up and unionize I can't be bothered anymore.

Um not really. The revenue split in most leagues is 50/50 or so on net profit. So if the UFC nets ~250mil, and fighters get ~100mil, that's a 60/40 revenue split, not that egregious.

 

[straight6]

Boxing stars own their own promotions, and regular sports compete a lot more through out the year.

no they dont. besides mayweather, which star has their own promotion? pacman, canelo, GGG, Broner, cotto, etc are all promoted by promoters.

 

[Coolidge]

You are boundlessly stupid.

Now let's expose another blatant flaw in your argument. The average NBA player weighs around 220. The average UFC Heavyweight weighs around 250. The degree of difference is greater between the Heavyweights than the Light Heavyweights. There's only 15 pounds of difference between the Light Heavyweights and NBA players, and that's before factoring in massive weight cutting. So the comparison should've been between NBA players and Light Heavyweights all along. Not only was your initial 35 figure (for the Heavyweights) a lie, but it was based on faulty reasoning.

The average age of a UFC Light Heavyweight is 31.5.

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After you realized how incredibly wrong your numbers were, you tried to shift the goalposts (again) and make it about fighters who are signed with the UFC AND have fought. It makes no difference whether they've fought, you moron. If they're signed, they count. You obviously thought that, too, because here's what you said initially: 'There are only 39 heavyweights currently signed.'

Using your figures and adding back in the names you conveniently left out, the number becomes: 32.5

Which is exactly what I had. Another problem I noticed with your numbers? Adam Milstead, Marcin Tybura, Luis Henrique, Cody East, Jared Canonnier, Cryil Asker, and Curtis Blaydes have all competed in the UFC, but are still absent from your list.

I want your account deleted before I wake up in the morning.

 

[Coolidge]

A premier league paying any professional athelete like 20k a year is embarassing. If they are worth so little they shouldnt be in the big show

No, it's not. 20k is perfectly reasonable. If they feel they're worth more, they need to go elsewhere.

 

[Amygdala]

Not math. But using the same model of comparison it could be said No promoters = no events = no fights = no fighters = no money.

Organizations need fighters and fighters need organizations. WSOF still has $500/$500 payouts.

Comparing the UFC to other sports is not an accurate comparison. An NFL TV deal is worth more annually (1.93 billion USD in 2014) than the UFC is bringing in in revenue. Comparing the UFC to other MMA organizations is a more fair comparison, and the UFC dwarfs the other organizations in fighter compensation. The lowest fighter pay I could find for the UFC was from 2007, and that was a 3,000/3,000 deal...or 6x higher than WSOF is paying their lowest tier fighters nearly a decade later.

Jon Jones made $6000/$6000 in his UFC debut. After 3 wins he was making 20K/20K. After five wins he was making 70/70. He now makes 500K + reebok + PPV points +potential performance bonuses. Want to be paid amongst the best? Be amongst the best.

Careful there... you're doing quite a bit of math.
And while it's nice to point to other shitty MMA orgs to defend the UFC, you have to look at money in vs. money out. Just as you could say no promoter = no events, you HAVE to say NO FIGHTERS = ABSOLUTELY NO EVENTS.

To defend Dana making whatever he makes per year and not expect fighters to bitch is just plain fucking stupid.

 

[Coolidge]

Chris De La Rocha has no page on Wikipedia and Fight Finder has "N/A" for his age.

According to Tapology, he's 36 though - so it will make the average go up.

You are boundlessly stupid.

After you realized how incredibly wrong your numbers were, you tried to shift the goalposts (again) and make it about fighters who are signed with the UFC AND have fought. It makes no difference whether they've fought, you moron. If they're signed, they count. You obviously thought that, too, because here's what you said initially: 'There are only 39 heavyweights currently signed.'

Using your figures and adding back in the names you conveniently left out, the number becomes: 32.5

Which is almost exactly what I had. Another problem I noticed with your numbers? Adam Milstead, Marcin Tybura, Luis Henrique, Cody East, Jared Canonnier, Cryil Asker, and Curtis Blaydes (+ the fighter I named earlier) have all competed in the UFC, but are still absent from your list.

I want your account deleted before I wake up in the morning.

 

[The Best JG]

No, it's not. 20k is perfectly reasonable. If they feel they're worth more, they need to go elsewhere.

20k a year salary is not perfectly reasonable especially since the ufc contract locks you up so bad from doing other stuff

 

[FrankieNYC]

20k a year salary is not perfectly reasonable especially since the ufc contract locks you up so bad from doing other stuff

What other stuff?
Only fighting for competitors.

Also, it is a lot more than $20k
Two fights a year equal $36k (its now $12/12) if you win one or if you win 2 its $48k
If you lose both, 99% chance you are cut.
The bottom tier is basically a paid tryout with more $$$ than on the indy's plus injury insurance.
If you win a few in a row, you make more money & move up the card.

 

[MacDougall]

Just did the numbers myself and factored in every active Heavyweight on the roster. The average age came to: '32.421052631579'

I'll call you the liar since you're the one spouting the number. You're outside two years, so please delete your account.

I did the numbers before these new guys were hired this year. Some of the new hires have dragged the age down a little bit.