LOL @ the Robbie Lawler hype

[Bill Pharoni]

He may not be winning a title, but it's always nice to see a veteran have a resurgence in his career. He's pretty much the WW Mark Hunt at the moment.

 

[OldManGrip]

you make no sense, he has improved a lot since his first stint at 170. That is why people are excited to see him back at his natural weight class. i don't think he beats gsp , but his takedown defense and ko power make him an interesting match for anyone. He is also strong as a ox and is not undersized at 170. I don't see anyone other than gsp being able to take him down consistently

 

[SpaceCommissar]

I want to know this... where do some people get their bat-shit crazy ideas that they believe everyone is on a new, unrealistic bandwagon making outrageous claims? You know what I'm talking about, these fucking guys who feel the need to start a new thread and declare how they are able to see through the hype that everyone else is fictionally perpetuating. eg. "everyone thinks such-and-such fighter will beat outrageous competition because of this so-so win...not me!"

Who the fuck is saying Lawler will beat GSP? I haven't seen anyone saying that on here, let alone thinking that's the general consensus of Sherdog.

If you want to just go on a rant about some over-hyped veteran/up-and-comer, then by all means, start a thread and rant. No need for the bullshit.

I have been wondering about this too. It seems as if every time some guy wins, suddenly there is someone claiming that "OMG!!! EVERYONE THINKS HE'LL BEAT ANDERSON SILVA, CAIN AND JONES AND EAT THEIR CHILDREN!!! TRUST ME, HE WON'T!!". No shit, Sherlock. We could've never guessed that ourselves. Thanks for bringing us back to reality.

Exciting guys get some hype and love because they're exciting. That's natural.

Unfortunately some people confuses that hype and love with claims of said fighter being the invincible GOAT.

 

[aquamanpunch]

To be fair, Voelker got robbed against Cote. Pretty blatant hometown decision.

 

[Vexxum]

Stupid Thread. itsPossible For Robbie To evolve.. Hype Is Real

 

[IowaIceMan]

I love Lawler, but I see this "comeback" going a lot like Lebens, a couple good wins does not mean the fighter has evolved. Robbie can knock out ANYONE on any given night, but he can also show up out and get out wrestled and controlled on the ground against a lot of the top 170 pounders.

 

[youngsteinel]

robbie's peak is about 4 levels below rorys cruise level.

I am unsure. I would pick Rory to win personally, but would not count Lawler out at this time.

 

[Lanshire]

I clearly said his recent losses were at MW, and even talked about it.

You went back after people criticized you for it (before I did) to add comments referring to that. You still try to point out in your original point that those guys aren't top 10 fighters. You mention his losses to them but were being disingenuous by not mentioning they were at MW. They're all good fighters, especially when you compare dealing with them to dealing with smaller WW's. How many top 10 WW's would beat Koscheck, Amagov, Lindland and Manhoef and not lose to Kennedy, Jacare, Babalu, and Shields? I don't see the other #5-10 WW's doing any better against that line up than Lawler did.

You say he got chased out of WW which doesn't make sense. Lawler was 8-1 at WW before he lost to Diaz. He put up a good fight with Spratt and actually did well considering he was a relatively green 21 year old fighting a vet. Diaz was ranked #10 WW when they fought. Lawler said he had trouble cutting the weight so he wanted to try MW. His 1st fight at MW was against Evan Tanner - a vet and the #3 MW in the world when he fought Lawler. I fail to see any logic that should lead anyone to conclude that moving UP a weight class to fight a HIGHER ranked opponent after losing your last fight in the weight class BELOW against a LOWER ranked opponent is "running away from a weight class".

The # of people saying Lawler would beat GSP are few, but it's not a stretch for anyone to think he is potentially a top 5 WW considering he's beaten some good MW's and has looked like a total beast at WW. He beat the #8 guy in Koscheck and beat Voelker who, you're right isn't a top opponent, but Lawler destroyed him exactly as you'd expect a top 10 (5?) fighter to do.

 

[Overrated]

Wow I can't count the amount of stuff that TS just made up out of his ass by looking at a Wiki page trying to sound all MMA educated nice try me boyo.

 

[Lanshire]

To be fair, Voelker got robbed against Cote. Pretty blatant hometown decision.

That was a total BS decision by the judges. Forgot about that. Voelker would've been 5-1 in SF/UFC if those judges weren't so biased for the local favorite.

 

[OldManGrip]

That was a total BS decision by the judges. Forgot about that. Voelker would've been 5-1 in SF/UFC if those judges weren't so biased for the local favorite.

I agree 100% and cote is a tough fighter, but I believe voelker won. That makes lawler's destruction even more impressive

 

[TriangleChoc]

Yeah, no way he'd beat Rory.


As much as everyone would want him to. It would basically be a carbon copy of the Ellenberger fight, except Lawler making more errors and eating more jabs because of it.

 

[Kid Fury]

Wait... People think he can beat Rory? Well, this is news to me.

Lawler's got spectacular knockout power, but that's about it.

 

[Pravda9]

You went back after people criticized you for it (before I did) to add comments referring to that. You still try to point out in your original point that those guys aren't top 10 fighters. You mention his losses to them but were being disingenuous by not mentioning they were at MW. They're all good fighters, especially when you compare dealing with them to dealing with smaller WW's. How many top 10 WW's would beat Koscheck, Amagov, Lindland and Manhoef and not lose to Kennedy, Jacare, Babalu, and Shields? I don't see the other #5-10 WW's doing any better against that line up than Lawler did.

You say he got chased out of WW which doesn't make sense. Lawler was 8-1 at WW before he lost to Diaz. He put up a good fight with Spratt and actually did well considering he was a relatively green 21 year old fighting a vet. Diaz was ranked #10 WW when they fought. Lawler said he had trouble cutting the weight so he wanted to try MW. His 1st fight at MW was against Evan Tanner - a vet and the #3 MW in the world when he fought Lawler. I fail to see any logic that should lead anyone to conclude that moving UP a weight class to fight a HIGHER ranked opponent after losing your last fight in the weight class BELOW against a LOWER ranked opponent is "running away from a weight class".

The # of people saying Lawler would beat GSP are few, but it's not a stretch for anyone to think he is potentially a top 5 WW considering he's beaten some good MW's and has looked like a total beast at WW. He beat the #8 guy in Koscheck and beat Voelker who, you're right isn't a top opponent, but Lawler destroyed him exactly as you'd expect a top 10 (5?) fighter to do.

lol I never added anything to the OP about MW. I added pictures, that's it. It was there when you (or anyone else) replied to it - you missed it.

 

[MCS]

Op is spot on, that's exactly what Lawler is: a awesome guy to watch who's not reliable and has holes in all areas. Hopefully he is in his prime, but there needs to be more than 2 wins for that to hold some meaning.

 

[XStr8EdgeX]

Relax he's coming off 2 nice KO wins in the euphoria of that people are going to make some ridiculous claims happens all the time I think most people who are saying he would beat GSP are not serious

 

[TriangleChoc]

Yeah this is sherdog, if you KO someone you're immediately an unbeatable God...


...of course if you lose the next fight you're a fat hobo who can't fight his way out of a paper bag.

 

[SherdogGoat]

If I made a

GSP v. Robbie poll

and

GSP v. Rory poll

Less than 20% of the people will pick Robbie in both. And half of the people picking Robbie would be doing so just because they like him more than the other guys.

I'd definitely pick Robbie in a GSP vs Rory fight.

 

[Pravda9]

Wait... People think he can beat Rory? Well, this is news to me.

Lawler's got spectacular knockout power, but that's about it.

There's a big thread up now about how Lawler is gonna KO Rory. This despite Rory just coming off a dominating performance (though not entertaining) against Jake Ellenberger, a much better power puncher.

 

[georgwilhelm**]

TS, I agree 100%
Sherdog hype trains are getting more ridiculous by the day. Rory was somewhat questionable befor his win against Ellenberger (and even now I'm not 100% sold yet, but considerably more than before). But Lawler... c'mon people... good win against over the hill Koscheck and a win against a total nobody. And people here are talking title shots and number 1 contender fights. Sherdog's a joke sometimes.