Movies LOGAN v.2 (Dragonlord's Review)

If you have seen LOGAN, how would you rate it?

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Dragonlordxxxxx said:
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You know what bugs me?

The main reason Logan was so great was that it wasn't a hot mess.

How do these idiots keep spending hundreds of millions of dollars and making movies that have such obvious problems? How are they not looking at movies that are awesome and understanding what makes them successful? Are good writers so fiendishly rare that ten million dollars doesn't buy you a brilliant script?

Logan was really good, but when you break it down, it's a very simple movie. It's not that complicated.

It's so good, we can forgive it for making the huge mistake that all these movies insist on making.

When being chased by an army of bad guys, don't spend the night with the nice family, they will all die and it will be your fault.

I hear there's great money in being an excellent script doctor. I also hear that some movies employ several script doctors, one after the other, correcting corrections of corrections.

I simply do not believe that writing is that hard.
 
So what timeline is this movie in? Also, I read DragonLord's review and can anyone explain exactly

when it was said that Charles' seizure killed most/all of the x-men? I thought I heard it kind of insinuated but wasn't sure if that's what actually happened. From what I recall they said 600 were affected but I can't remember when they said it killed the mutants/x-men. I thought the movie took place in the future where the sentinals killed most of the mutants which is why there weren't many more left. I also did not see Apocolypse or the Wolverine movies so idk if that is why I am not too sure
 
Loiosh said:
I hear there's great money in being an excellent script doctor. I also hear that some movies employ several script doctors, one after the other, correcting corrections of corrections.

I simply do not believe that writing is that hard.
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WB-DC, sign me up for that script doctor job position.
 
Minnja said:
So what timeline is this movie in? Also, I read DragonLord's review and can anyone explain exactly

when it was said that Charles' seizure killed most/all of the x-men? I thought I heard it kind of insinuated but wasn't sure if that's what actually happened. From what I recall they said 600 were affected but I can't remember when they said it killed the mutants/x-men. I thought the movie took place in the future where the sentinals killed most of the mutants which is why there weren't many more left. I also did not see Apocolypse or the Wolverine movies so idk if that is why I am not too sure
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Logan is set in the year 2029.

Charles admitted to X-24 that he finally realized that he had done something so horrible and understands why Logan is doing what he has been doing.

In that news report on the car radio, it said 6 were killed. The news was cut off when Logan turned off the radio. It is implied that the 6 were the X-Men.

Most of the things that happened with the X-Men in the past are implied. It's up to the audience to put two and two together. The clues are all there.

The bleak Sentinels future is erased thanks to the ending of X-Men: Days of Future Past. At the end of DoFP, they've creatd a new timeline and Logan is supposedly part of this new timeline.
 
Loiosh said:
You know what bugs me?

The main reason Logan was so great was that it wasn't a hot mess.

How do these idiots keep spending hundreds of millions of dollars and making movies that have such obvious problems? How are they not looking at movies that are awesome and understanding what makes them successful? Are good writers so fiendishly rare that ten million dollars doesn't buy you a brilliant script?

Logan was really good, but when you break it down, it's a very simple movie. It's not that complicated.

It's so good, we can forgive it for making the huge mistake that all these movies insist on making.

When being chased by an army of bad guys, don't spend the night with the nice family, they will all die and it will be your fault.

I hear there's great money in being an excellent script doctor. I also hear that some movies employ several script doctors, one after the other, correcting corrections of corrections.

I simply do not believe that writing is that hard.
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Your spoiler is my only legitimate complaint with the movie.

Like, how do you not see that coming Xavier?
 
GearSolidMetal said:
When Prof.X said 'Yes! We'd love to come over for dinner' I thought 'Ok, that family is completely fucked.'
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My one big complaint with the movie. You instantly know they're fucked and this is where one of the big conflicts will be. Just like when the kid tells Laura she can give the iPod back in the morning, you know the kid will be dead before then and she's keeping the iPod. This isn't foreshadowing, it's predictable formulaic writing.
 
HomerThompson said:
Your spoiler is my only legitimate complaint with the movie.

Like, how do you not see that coming Xavier?
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I mostly forgive it because

Xavier is losing his mind, Logan knows it's a bad idea and tries to get them moving, and decides to stay only until dawn. However, we all know, the family is dead.
 
Loiosh said:
I mostly forgive it because

Xavier is losing his mind, Logan knows it's a bad idea and tries to get them moving, and decides to stay only until dawn. However, we all know, the family is dead.
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That's how it went for me too. The movie is so excellent overall that it's just not a big deal.
 
Loiosh said:
You know what bugs me?

The main reason Logan was so great was that it wasn't a hot mess.

How do these idiots keep spending hundreds of millions of dollars and making movies that have such obvious problems? How are they not looking at movies that are awesome and understanding what makes them successful? Are good writers so fiendishly rare that ten million dollars doesn't buy you a brilliant script?

Logan was really good, but when you break it down, it's a very simple movie. It's not that complicated.

It's so good, we can forgive it for making the huge mistake that all these movies insist on making.

When being chased by an army of bad guys, don't spend the night with the nice family, they will all die and it will be your fault.

I hear there's great money in being an excellent script doctor. I also hear that some movies employ several script doctors, one after the other, correcting corrections of corrections.

I simply do not believe that writing is that hard.
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That spoiler tag is the 15 minutes the movie could do without. No need whatsoever to the main plot. Cut that out and the movie would basically be a 10.
 
Dragonlordxxxxx said:
Logan is set in the year 2029.

Charles admitted to X-24 that he finally realized that he had done something so horrible and understands why Logan is doing what he has been doing.

In that news report on the car radio, it said 6 were killed. The news was cut off when Logan turned off the radio. It is implied that the 6 were the X-Men.

Most of the things that happened with the X-Men in the past are implied. It's up to the audience to put two and two together. The clues are all there.

The bleak Sentinels future is erased thanks to the ending of X-Men: Days of Future Past. At the end of DoFP, they've creatd a new timeline and Logan is supposedly part of this new timeline.
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Ah ok, I saw DOFP but it's been a long time. I remember that ending but I didn't remember that it overwrote the bleak timeline I thought it was just a new one. Maybe I'm not remembering clearly. And yeah, I thought that the audience was supposed to piece stuff together but wasn't sure if my lack of watching the Wolverine movies or watching Apocolypse was part of the reason why I didn't fully understand what was going on. Thanks for the info
 
House by the Cemetery said:
Some people thought it should have been Sabretooth instead of the
clone
for Logan's last battle.
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A cool Sabretooth would have been g
Loiosh said:
You know what bugs me?

The main reason Logan was so great was that it wasn't a hot mess.

How do these idiots keep spending hundreds of millions of dollars and making movies that have such obvious problems? How are they not looking at movies that are awesome and understanding what makes them successful? Are good writers so fiendishly rare that ten million dollars doesn't buy you a brilliant script?

Logan was really good, but when you break it down, it's a very simple movie. It's not that complicated.

It's so good, we can forgive it for making the huge mistake that all these movies insist on making.

When being chased by an army of bad guys, don't spend the night with the nice family, they will all die and it will be your fault.

I hear there's great money in being an excellent script doctor. I also hear that some movies employ several script doctors, one after the other, correcting corrections of corrections.

I simply do not believe that writing is that hard.
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When they decided to stay the night I was like

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You dont live 200 years, much of it fighting super villains across time/space, and think a 40' train pass buys you a weekend on the farm.

They need to bring in comic book specialists to work with script writers to hammer out these movies.
 
Anung Un Rama said:
A cool Sabretooth would have been g
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I like that they went the route they went with. Felt like Logan's final test was against his demons a war with himself and with take a different piece of him to defeat this enemy and in turn he found peace.

Makes me hate the other X-men movies. Along with Jackman I only liked the actors who played X and Magneto , young and old , it's not their fault that before this they were working with subpar bullshit.
 
Loiosh said:
Logan was really good, but when you break it down, it's a very simple movie. It's not that complicated.
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Very very hard to convincingly pull off a complicated movie. LOTR is in my humble opinion the benchmark for pulling off a complicated script.
 
I voted # 6 (decent). Was conflicted on whether to vote #7 or #6. The criticism I have for the movie is the cliche of using a stereotypical bad guy character (Boyd Holbrook) to carry the movie through.
 
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