Movies LOGAN v.2 (Dragonlord's Review)

[GearSolidMetal]

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My one big complaint with the movie. You instantly know they're fucked and this is where one of the big conflicts will be. Just like when the kid tells Laura she can give the iPod back in the morning, you know the kid will be dead before then and she's keeping the iPod. This isn't foreshadowing, it's predictable formulaic writing.

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It's actually worse than that. Both Logan and ProfX had to know they were being tracked after the casino incident, if not before that when they knew Caliban had been taken hostage.

By accepting the family's kind offer, they knowingly put them at extreme risk, and practically signed their death warrants.

I'm usually the type that doesn't nit-pick the plots of comic book movies, but this one decision by the 'good guys' stuck out to me like sore thumb.

 

[VitorReem]

I voted # 6 (decent). Was conflicted on whether to vote #7 or #6. The criticism I have for the movie is the cliche of using a stereotypical bad guy character (Boyd Holbrook) to carry the movie through.

Ban for stupidity & being a homosexual

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Guys, I have to ask you to stop attacking posters that didn't like the movie that much. Thanks.

 

[LATEXXX COMMANDO]

I voted # 6 (decent). Was conflicted on whether to vote #7 or #6. The criticism I have for the movie is the cliche of using a stereotypical bad guy character (Boyd Holbrook) to carry the movie through.

I really liked Boyd's character.

In the first act he was great but slowly started drifting back as the story continued. He imo was a smooth bad guy. Boyd did a tremendous job with what they gave him, every little thing he did was cool

 

[Amerikuracana]

I gave it a 7. I just.. I just missed the full connection. It was almost there for me, but I had a gay couple next to me hugging on each other the entire movie, with my 15 year old son on the other side of me, and it was a minor distraction. I really didn't care, but it was a minor distraction in the beginning. The violence also had me concerned about messing up my kid; dads worry, unfortunately.

It was a good movie, but there were a few holes. I think 9/10 is a little high. Had I gone by myself and been able to be fully immersed from the beginning, I might have given it an 8. Again, just missed the connection a little.

 

[Amerikuracana]

Did anybody notice anybody go from completely senile to just a little buzzed and happy?

 

[Krav McGraw]

Saw it tonight. Rate it an 8. My girlfriend said she was annoyed by the political undertones about the innocent Mexicans just wanting to cross the border and treated like savages. Hollywood liberalism at its finest.

 

[MicroBrew]

I really liked Boyd's character.

In the first act he was great but slowly started drifting back as the story continued. He imo was a smooth bad guy. Boyd did a tremendous job with what they gave him, every little thing he did was cool

Yeah the intro scene in the limo was fine but his character later on just was too formulaic.

 

[MicroBrew]

Saw it tonight. Rate it an 8. My girlfriend said she was annoyed by the political undertones about the innocent Mexicans just wanting to cross the border and treated like savages. Hollywood liberalism at its finest.

I didn't see anyplace in the movie that tried to weave in the current controversy of illegal immigration and Mexicans trying to cross the border.

 

[LATEXXX COMMANDO]

Saw it tonight. Rate it an 8. My girlfriend said she was annoyed by the political undertones about the innocent Mexicans just wanting to cross the border and treated like savages. Hollywood liberalism at its finest.

I did notice the political undertones but they didn't really bother me.

I was fully immersed. The only time it was in my face and I couldn't help but notice was the beginning limo scene with the college/high school boys.

 

[LATEXXX COMMANDO]

Yeah the intro scene in the limo was fine but his character later on just was too formulaic.

Not really a spoiler but the first time hearing it I lol'ed

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That Freddy Kruger and Tony the Tiger reference was tremendous.

 

[pinkybrief]

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When Prof.X said 'Yes! We'd love to come over for dinner' I thought 'Ok, that family is completely fucked.'

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reminds me of the wolverine leather jacket origins lol

 

[Krav McGraw]

I didn't see anyplace in the movie that tried to weave in the current controversy of illegal immigration and Mexicans trying to cross the border.

The kids were born in Mexico and all they wanted to do was cross the northern border to safety. The only thing stopping them were militants who thought they were too dangerous for society. You don't see the connection there?

 

[PRIDEWASBETTER]

WB-DC, sign me up for that script doctor job position.

They don't deserve you.

So what timeline is this movie in? Also, I read DragonLord's review and can anyone explain exactly

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when it was said that Charles' seizure killed most/all of the x-men? I thought I heard it kind of insinuated but wasn't sure if that's what actually happened. From what I recall they said 600 were affected but I can't remember when they said it killed the mutants/x-men. I thought the movie took place in the future where the sentinals killed most of the mutants which is why there weren't many more left. I also did not see Apocolypse or the Wolverine movies so idk if that is why I am not too sure

To hell with trying to explain anything regarding the timeline.

 

[neverwas]

You don't even like Unforgiven? Have you seen/did you like Shane? Do you generally dislike elegiac films?

For what it's worth, I, too, love X-Men and X2. Unfortunately, I don't share your love for The Last Stand. I thought that one was a turd, though as far as turds go, it wasn't completely without merit. And I thought Origins was lame but I was thoroughly impressed with The Wolverine (for the record, and if you care, you can see my thoughts on the X-Men films in much greater detail here: http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/109189057/)

Then again, I always come at these movies as movies. I'm not a comic book guy, so I don't see these films as adaptations in the sense of knowing/being invested in the source material and thus having a stake in how the stories and characters are cinematically rendered. Perhaps your stake in the source material makes it difficult for you to countenance the creative decisions made with Wolverine? In which case, what are the decisions you've liked over the course of the franchise and what are the decisions you've disliked and, with reference to the source material, why?

i can't stand shane,the only good thing for me in it was jack palance. I've never read a comic book for any of the more modern superhero films,and the only knowledge of the x-men was from seeing some cartoons years ago.

 

[heavyarms21]

The kids were born in Mexico and all they wanted to do was cross the northern border to safety. The only thing stopping them were militants who thought they were too dangerous for society. You don't see the connection there?

Oh I made the connection , just had to ignore it , if I was to nit pick everything right off the bat that will be coming out I might off every Hillary voter in the theater.

Aaanyways anyone else annoyed that these kids were supposed to be raised Mexican but not all of them actually had accents , skinny white kid with the prosthetics in particular.

 

[BJJ NINJA]

The kids were born in Mexico and all they wanted to do was cross the northern border to safety. The only thing stopping them were militants who thought they were too dangerous for society. You don't see the connection there?

The X-Men has always been a message about prejudice and racism n equal rights n what not. But you're stretching there big time. People are so fuckin hot right now on this political bullshit they'll see it in anything. Next thing you know this thread is gonna have Trump talk in it. Give me a break.

ps. Logan ruled ass

 

[Amerikuracana]

Saw it tonight. Rate it an 8. My girlfriend said she was annoyed by the political undertones about the innocent Mexicans just wanting to cross the border and treated like savages. Hollywood liberalism at its finest.

I tried my hardest not to see all that. My hardest.

 

[MicroBrew]

The kids were born in Mexico and all they wanted to do was cross the northern border to safety. The only thing stopping them were militants who thought they were too dangerous for society. You don't see the connection there?

No. To me it was just standard good guys-escaping-bad guys chase scene.

 

[LATEXXX COMMANDO]

For me, it's mostly been Wolverine himself that's been missing. Hugh Jackman has never won me over as Wolverine, despite my thinking he's really good in this and quite a number of other roles. The fact he's never worn the correct costume is a big minus.

LOGAN makes up for all of that. My only question is whether suffering through all these terrible attempts was necessary for me to enjoy LOGAN as much as I do.

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I believe the "six killed" referred to the Reavers, and the Westchester bodycount was unspecified, cited as a "related incident."

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I could have sworn the radio said the 6 killed were mutants