Elections Liberal tears and meltdown thread

[ShadowRun]

 

[nonoob]

 

[Andy Capp]

Difficult to compete on price when Chinese wages are 10% of American and they are not receiving the massive government subsidies that Chinese firms are.

There is a good reason why countries are putting tariffs on these Chinese cars.

And they're still cheaper.

 

[Contempt]

And they're still cheaper.

Meaning the tariffs should be higher?

 

[Andy Capp]

Meaning the tariffs should be higher?

Is that what I said?

 

[Contempt]

Is that what I said?

Implied.

 

[Yorick the Wiser]

lol at Chinese cars.

they crash themselves?

 

[IDGETKTFO]

This is the latest meltdown in LA

OMG, you mean you actually have to be a REAL journalist and fact check...the horror. Yes, i am glad you already resigned too.

 

[Andy Capp]

Implied.

Only to someone making a bunch of poor assumptions.

 

[Contempt]

Only to someone making a bunch of poor assumptions.

The stated aim of these tariffs is to equalise the market, compensating for what is seen as unfair advantages these Chinese products get. You stated that they are still able to undercut on price, even with these tariffs, hence the tariffs aren't achieving the stated aims.

Where was the assumption exactly?

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Anyone who disagrees with this should be investigated

 

[Andy Capp]

The stated aim of these tariffs is to equalise the market, compensating for what is seen as unfair advantages these Chinese products get. You stated that they are still able to undercut on price, even with these tariffs, hence the tariffs aren't achieving the stated aims.

Where was the assumption exactly?

Note the bold text.

What if the price is still lower after you've compensated for what are seen as advantages?

 

[Contempt]

Note the bold text.

What if the price is still lower after you've compensated for what are seen as advantages?

It's certainly not successfully equalising the market if one product is still cheaper now is it?

 

[ShinkanPo]

i am melting down.

 

[Scerpi]

 

[Andy Capp]

It's certainly not successfully equalising the market if one product is still cheaper now is it?

Sigh. Read the bold text in your post again and then give my reply more thought, please.

If you apply tariffs to compensate for anti-competitive practices and you're still not competitive then the issue is at your end, don't you think? More tariffs just make the product more expensive without making domestic manufacturers any more competitive. And that's a bad thing. "Equalising the market" the way you frame it is how communists ruin their economies. Who needs to try to innovate or become more efficient to compete if the government is going to debase the value proposition of competitors' products for you?

Mind you, I guess it depends upon what "stated aims" you're working toward. If the goal is to simply obstruct the Chinese from importing to your country in the first place because fuck them, why not just ban them? Notice how they haven't done that?

If the goal is to ensure they cost a fair price in an open market that has been accomplished AFAIK with the 100% tariff--talking about that one particular Chinese EV, of course.

 

[Koro_11]

Anyone who disagrees with this should be investigated

That’s what I’ve been saying for years, how are people who pushed for this depraved lunacy not being immediately put in straight jackets and dragged off to the nearest mental institution?

I hope every one of those so called doctors goes to prison.