Let's talk prescription drugs

[Shaungotti]

Never been on anything and the whole industry disturbs me a little.

Just the drug commercials alone are everywhere. "Ask your doctor if Xana-whatever is right for you".

I had anxiety for 3 years and I never took anything. Eventually my nervous system sort of re-calibrated, for lack of a better term, and I got back to feeling normal.

I'm a chicken when it comes to drugs of any kind. I always was.

 

[Clippys Mom]

hiya CEROVFC,

i think if you're depressed about something, you should be depressed, and you should (if possible) attempt to change your life.

then again, if you're depressed about having a dead end job and are saddled with a few kids and find you're unable to face the grim reality of your life, i don't see the harm in taking a pill that allows you to soldier through your day.

idk, CEROVFC.

judging from the responses to your thread, the WAR ROOM is kind of an outlier; a collection of strong individuals who have no experience in this sort of thing.

- IGIT

You're welcome to your own interpretation, but I see a collection of individuals in this thread who have experience in this sort of thing.

My own is extensive, both for myself, family, Pharma rep, docs & pharmacy owners I've had direct lines of communications with on an informal bases.

The core, or root of the problem is many in the community are not able to self actualize as individuals, or biological organisms within the current stage of our species evolutionary progression. And yes I am speaking in the broadest possible terms. These "sicknesses" are just the symptoms of the greater problem. Pills are masking agents in most cases. Civilizations cultural mass-psychology is one of a junkie. Even the doctors are just "calling it in" when it comes to scrips.

Without giving specific examples, let me put it this way...throughout recorded history we can look back at what the greatest minds, most powerful people, peasants and all others in between, and view what the believed to be true, right, or normative, from that, we can see from the lofty perch of of our time that much of what they knew was ignorant of the greater reality. Regardless of our industrial and technological revolutions, we are still just a nubile species stumbling in the vast darkness of our ignorance

Look up in the sky...
Its a comedy!
No, its a tragedy!
No, its Humanity!

Man, entropy is a bitch.
We will get through it.

 

[lildog]

I find it somewhat questionable to place this on some vague "modern society driving people past their ability to naturally cope" or even squarely on doctors. The former makes little sense given that we're actually in a massively safe and secure period of time in human history. The later works some, doctors have a responsibility for not prescribing unnecessary medications (e.g. antibiotics for the flu) but the AMA has actually tried to address this issue.

Instead, the massive use of drugs by people in the US has a very clear cause: massive advertising. Use of prescription drugs has skyrocketed since 1997 due to relaxation of advertising regulation. Watch any major sports event and you'll be bombarded by ads and, whether we want to admit it or not, these ads work. Advertising expenditures have outstripped R&D and the increase in these expenditures have been shown to have a direct impact on drug sales.

I agree but the Pharmaceutical companies, the government for allowing it to advertised everywhere, and the doctors are partially to blame for the state of things.

 

[UpaLoompa]

I agree but the Pharmaceutical companies, the government for allowing it to advertised everywhere, and the doctors are partially to blame for the state of things.

Yeah, relaxing the regulations was a huge problem and the result of intense lobbying. Obama talked in 2008 about tightening things up but not much has come to pass in that regard.

Doctors... well, the AMA has repeatedly stated that the direct to consumer advertising needs to stop. Individual doctors are certainly at fault for the over-prescribing but their also under intense advertiser driven pressure from consumers.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Any drug advertised on TV is garbage for you.

Cures nothing just masks your problems.

 

[UpaLoompa]

Any drug advertised on TV is garbage for you.

Cures nothing just masks your problems.

That's as stupid as saying weed cures cancer.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

That's as stupid as saying weed cures cancer.

Well they don't cure you though.

High blood pressure pills don't cure you, just gloss over a unhealthy lifestyle. For most people that is.

I'm not a fan of taking a drug for every ailment a person has.

Some are necessary but most drugs could be done away with by changing into a healthier lifestyle.

 

[UpaLoompa]

Some are necessary but most drugs could be done away with by changing into a healthier lifestyle.

Well that's true in many cases (probably not "most") and I'd generally agree. That's far different from what you originally posted though.

 

[Brodels]

I'm not a fan. I started getting prescribed various meds starting in 6th grade. Started with Zoloft, went on to adderal, ritalin, Dexedrine, prozac, luvox, paxil, buspirone and maybe one other. They all made me feel like shit and yawn all day. Paxil used to make me sweat like Steven Avery. None of them really helped. Buspirone might've helped with my irritability a little, but it made you feel awful if you took it at the wrong time of day, with the wrong type of liquid, other bs reasons. Like dizzy as fuck. Plus it's all really expensive. My last doc wanted to prescribe me lithium but I refused to quit drinking. I'll save my doctor copays and put it towards my natural medicine weed.

I do like take some thing recreationally though. Valium, xanax, kolazapems? <-- (Whichever ones taste minty when you chew them up)

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Well that's true in many cases (probably not "most") and I'd generally agree. That's far different from what you originally posted though.

Maybe because how I grew up. No one in my family was ever on prescription drugs except my grandma who had cancer many years ago.

My family has good health and longevity.

I'm boys big proponent on taking pills for everything. Like I said some are needed but certain things can be remedied with a healthy lifestyle

 

[HomeRun916]

Kinda funny reading some of the replys. Kind of makes sense now.