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I love a sub as much as a nice KO and it seems we don't see as many leg locks (my favorite sub) as we used to. I realize this may have to do with fighters evolving once again, but can someone point out why. Thanks for your answer,
 
In MMA? One of the major problems with leglocks is that if you don't get the sub you are often lose position and take a lot of shots to the face.
 
Ya, I agree. One fighter, I forget who, was quoted as saying " Dueling for leg-locks is like russian roullette." I take it he means that anything can happen.

Did you see Josh Thompson knee bar a guy in Pride after escaping the arm bar? It was suh-weet!
 
As stated, you give up good position.
 
many times you'll lose position b/c you don't have the guys leg very tightly and he will kick out of it. Also, you can lose position (and/or get ko'd) as you get punched in the face while trying to submit with leg lock. You can also get KICKED in the face sometimes while attempting a leg lock.

I saw a guy tap somebody with an outside heel hook (force applied to outside of guys leg), but as he was applying it and getting position, the guy was punching him in the face at close range.

NOW, if your talking about sub grappling that's an entirely different story. You should NOT be losing position doing leg locks that often if you are well practiced at them.
 
Leg locks work good if you are better at them then the other guy. If you know equally much or close, then sometimes you will get into 50/50 situations and you might be the one to get leg-locked.

They are all about the right set-up, and quickly giving up in favor of a quick scramble for better potsition though. I think the basic rule of leg-locks should be that if you can't slap them on quick then it's best to use them to set up a guard pass or scramble to a favorable position.

And yes, sometimes you will get punched in the dome a few times, but once again, you are probably taking too long if that is happening.
 
The problem is that noone really specializes in Leglocks nowadays. How often do you hear some in Jiu-Jitsu say lets work our heel-hook to toe-hold transitions. Now often do you hear lets work our triangle to armbar transitions. Thats why your seeing less and less leglocks.
 
Inonyouth said:
The problem is that noone really specializes in Leglocks nowadays. How often do you hear some in Jiu-Jitsu say lets work our heel-hook to toe-hold transitions. Now often do you hear lets work our triangle to armbar transitions. Thats why your seeing less and less leglocks.

I agree people fail to train leglocks enough and mainly people (even expert grapplers) can not perform one correctly, therefore they would give up position or get countered and caught in a leglock by a good leg submission specialist if they attempted a leglock.
 
A lot of leg locks are also tough if you are shorter than your opponent, because they can escape really easily.
 
Watch Mir v Freeman.
 
Dedicado said:
Did you see Josh Thompson knee bar a guy in Pride after escaping the arm bar? It was suh-weet!


Josh Thompson leg-barred Daisuke "Amazon" Sugie. The escape and the leg bar together were double sweetness with a side order of swiss chocolate.

Anyone watch Hansen's last fight against Imanari? The guy went for nothing BUT leg locks. Didn't stop Hansen kneeing him in the face though!
 
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