leg locks

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  1. koquerelle

    koquerelle Silver Belt

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    I love a sub as much as a nice KO and it seems we don't see as many leg locks (my favorite sub) as we used to. I realize this may have to do with fighters evolving once again, but can someone point out why. Thanks for your answer,
     
  2. Cojofl

    Cojofl Brown Belt

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    In MMA? One of the major problems with leglocks is that if you don't get the sub you are often lose position and take a lot of shots to the face.
     
  3. Dedicado

    Dedicado Machetero

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    Ya, I agree. One fighter, I forget who, was quoted as saying " Dueling for leg-locks is like russian roullette." I take it he means that anything can happen.

    Did you see Josh Thompson knee bar a guy in Pride after escaping the arm bar? It was suh-weet!
     
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    b0b Banned Banned

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    As stated, you give up good position.
     
  5. mmahamzah

    mmahamzah Sheeeeit

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    arlovski did one on sylvia in ufc
     
  6. S.D.Force

    S.D.Force Blue Belt

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    many times you'll lose position b/c you don't have the guys leg very tightly and he will kick out of it. Also, you can lose position (and/or get ko'd) as you get punched in the face while trying to submit with leg lock. You can also get KICKED in the face sometimes while attempting a leg lock.

    I saw a guy tap somebody with an outside heel hook (force applied to outside of guys leg), but as he was applying it and getting position, the guy was punching him in the face at close range.

    NOW, if your talking about sub grappling that's an entirely different story. You should NOT be losing position doing leg locks that often if you are well practiced at them.
     
  7. I-Shoji

    I-Shoji Green Belt

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    Leg locks work good if you are better at them then the other guy. If you know equally much or close, then sometimes you will get into 50/50 situations and you might be the one to get leg-locked.

    They are all about the right set-up, and quickly giving up in favor of a quick scramble for better potsition though. I think the basic rule of leg-locks should be that if you can't slap them on quick then it's best to use them to set up a guard pass or scramble to a favorable position.

    And yes, sometimes you will get punched in the dome a few times, but once again, you are probably taking too long if that is happening.
     
  8. Inonyouth

    Inonyouth Blue Belt

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    The problem is that noone really specializes in Leglocks nowadays. How often do you hear some in Jiu-Jitsu say lets work our heel-hook to toe-hold transitions. Now often do you hear lets work our triangle to armbar transitions. Thats why your seeing less and less leglocks.
     
  9. Jason Pair

    Jason Pair Amateur Fighter

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    I agree people fail to train leglocks enough and mainly people (even expert grapplers) can not perform one correctly, therefore they would give up position or get countered and caught in a leglock by a good leg submission specialist if they attempted a leglock.
     
  10. scorcho

    scorcho Brown Belt

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    A lot of leg locks are also tough if you are shorter than your opponent, because they can escape really easily.
     
  11. TwIsTeD&BrOkEn

    TwIsTeD&BrOkEn With These Hands I Control The Fate of Millions

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    sure....after he rocked his shit!
     
  12. Sanni Wehbe

    Sanni Wehbe Amateur Fighter

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    That's how Ken lost to Franklin.
     
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    Stoic1 Patriot

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    Watch Mir v Freeman.
     
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    phenomfan1529 Brown Belt

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    ^^^ good example
     
  15. Waxwingslain

    Waxwingslain oiseau rebelle

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    Josh Thompson leg-barred Daisuke "Amazon" Sugie. The escape and the leg bar together were double sweetness with a side order of swiss chocolate.

    Anyone watch Hansen's last fight against Imanari? The guy went for nothing BUT leg locks. Didn't stop Hansen kneeing him in the face though!
     
  16. BJJ1995

    BJJ1995 White Belt

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    Or, Charuto versus Trigg.
     

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