Least naturally/genetically talented fighter to take the title?

[volcom5]

Good job getting hammered by Dan who is 45 and avoiding Yeol, Jacare, Withtaker and Weidman.

Your timeline is a little off there, Yoel Romero & Gegard Mousasi was at the time the only rightful title contenders, beating Jacare, Weidman & Vitor which takes them out of contention, Whitaker was not close, was fighting Brunson. GSP announcing his return and the UFC giving him the immediate shot awaiting Bisping to recover from his injury post Henderson is what really held the MW division on hold for close to a year, That’s when Whitaker beat Jacare & Yoel for the “interim” which is essentially a number 1 contender title, earning him a shot at the winner of GSP vs Bisping. Bisping definitely ducked Yoel Romero and Gegard got screwed over & went over to Bellator.

 

[jeff7b9]

Is it too late to add Chuck Liddell?

Pot bellied, soft shouldered , glass jawed, chicken legged, knobby footed cretin

Chuck was most certainly not glass jawwed in his prime or as a champion, quite the opposite.

He was also a division 1 collegiate wrestler, and had a very successful kickboxing career prior to MMA.

He just got OLD and paid the price for relying on his chin too much in his prime and likely partying a bit too much.

 

[BEATDOWNS]

DC had great technique and fight IQ. But genetically he was not that talented. He was short and heavy, could not really jump or kick, the punching power was average.

DC was A level bro

 

[volcom5]

Good joke. Jon and GSP are paper cherry pick champs of the divison above. They are small for it. LHW and WW goats but HW MW paper champs.

They’re essentially paper champs, but that doesn’t take away from their wins.

GSP held up the division to get more rich causing Jacare to not get a chance to get a shot. Undeserved title shot. Only wanted it with Bisping for a title.

Jacare needed one more win to secure a title shot, he was coming off a loss to Romero & only beaten Belfort on his return. On the other hand, Romero was undefeated in UFC, with wins over Brunson, Tavares, Kennedy, Machida, Jacare & Weidman. Romero was the rightful contender.

 

[jeff7b9]

Some very weird posts here. I think like 95% of champions are super gifted.

Niccos the right answer.

Tim Sylvia was pretty damn underrated if you ask me. Gigantic, sharp striking, worked a lot on his wrestling defense

I think that is somewhat the nature of the topic.

But the reality is the even in a set of successful people someone will be the worst.

Someone somewhere is the smartest retard and someone else is the dumbest genius, but any time you seek out that "oxymoron" territory it is likely to ruffle some feathers.

The least athletic UFC champ is still probably in the top 1% or so of athletes, they are not only a professional athlete but a champion at the professional level and in the for the most part most competitive league for MMA, and all of the champs post 2010 or so are probably millionaire or at least earned over a mil in their careers.

Someone gotta be the lowest class rank at Harvard.

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That aside, Nicco is a solid answer, but personally I think WMMA is such trash and her belt in particular was such a joke, with Valentina around and not included and then Nicco basically ghosted when time came to face Val. What a fucking mess.

That girl is essentially a trivia question for hardcore mma fans.

I personally don't consider her a "ufc champion"
- she won a reality TV show tournament and
-beat a girl who already lost in that single elimination tourney , and it was her only UFC win ever,
-over Roxy who has a whopping 4-7 UFC record.

 

[DiazSlap]

I don't like him but I'll say belal no punching power and not that fast on top of starting late. Hell of a chin though.

Forrest

 

[godhatesacoward]

I think that is somewhat the nature of the topic.

But the reality is the even in a set of successful people someone will be the worst.

Someone somewhere is the smartest retard and someone else is the dumbest genius, but any time you seek out that "oxymoron" territory it is likely to ruffle some feathers.

The least athletic UFC champ is still probably in the top 1% or so of athletes, they are not only a professional athlete but a champion at the professional level and in the for the most part most competitive league for MMA, and all of the champs post 2010 or so are probably millionaire or at least earned over a mil in their careers.

Someone gotta be the lowest class rank at Harvard.

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That aside, Nicco is a solid answer, but personally I think WMMA is such trash and her belt in particular was such a joke, with Valentina around and not included and then Nicco basically ghosted when time came to face Val. What a fucking mess.

That girl is essentially a trivia question for hardcore mma fans.

I personally don't consider her a "ufc champion"
- she won a reality TV show tournament and
-beat a girl who already lost in that single elimination tourney , and it was her only UFC win ever,
-over Roxy who has a whopping 4-7 UFC record.

I'd argue compare to most sports athletes in this one are the most normal especially in the early years

 

[BEATDOWNS]

They’re essentially paper champs, but that doesn’t take away from their wins.

Jacare needed one more win to secure a title shot, he was coming off a loss to Romero & only beaten Belfort on his return. On the other hand, Romero was undefeated in UFC, with wins over Brunson, Tavares, Kennedy, Machida, Jacare & Weidman. Romero was the rightful contender.

either Gegard was scheduled to fight Anderson and pulled out or was scheduled to fight Bisping and got pulled from the fight but either way Bisping ended up getting the Anderson fight. Can't really find a clear answer why the switch happened. I think the UFC wanted a Bigger name for the Main event for the London card so Bisping got the call and Gegard ended up fighting Thales leites on the same card.

 

[Luthien]

Raquel Pennington gets an honorable mention.

 

[marvinparsons]

David Menne and Matt Serra, for men, are my top two choices.

Forrest was at least a huge guy and relatively fluid for his size. Compared to people like Doldozie.

Bisping was the same to me. Not a ridiculous athlete, but he was huge and also not stiff. Just didn't have much power.

They both had good length too.

Matt Serra was a little midgetized meatball.

 

[volcom5]

either Gegard was scheduled to fight Anderson and pulled out or was scheduled to fight Bisping and got pulled from the fight but either way Bisping ended up getting the Anderson fight. Can't really find a clear answer why the switch happened. I think the UFC wanted a Bigger name for the Main event for the London card so Bisping got the call and Gegard ended up fighting Thales leites on the same card.

I think you got it right with them going with Bisping for main event with Anderson since it was in London, Gegard was also match up with Daniel Cormier for UFC 200, but then they went with Anderson Silva instead.

UFC really screwed over Mousasi in my opinion, Romero should’ve gotten the titleshot vs Bisping, either Mousasi fought the winner or Jacare vs Mousasi rematch for the next shot. As much as I like St Pierre, he kinda ruined a few fighters momentum with him coming back to fight Bisping. Romero, Gegard & Jacare. Rockhold and Weidman, I could care less about them, Rockhold ruined it by a smug and looking past Bisping & Weidman crying for a immediate rematch against Rockhold which he didn’t deserve since he got beat fair & square is what essentially was the catalyst for the MW divisions mess for a few years. How the hell csn they have Rockhold, Weidman, Romero, Mousasi, Jacare at their best, with Bisping, Hall, Whitaker even with Machida, Belfort, A.Silva, Henderson even Evans who made a drop to MW, he was coming s few losses at LHW and still mess up match up making.

 

[MMAFanCal]

Julianna Pena

Other than the fact that she is a gluton for punishment and has the sh*t beaten out of her, but still does not give up, is probably the best talent she has. That big chin of hers, really helps. That is about it. She had a couple of fluke wins and her head got too big. She should have never won against Pennington and had a fluke win against Nunes. She paid for it. She will never be back for title contention. Good riddance.

The least geentically gifted and the least talented fighter on the roster. Her striking is atrocious, her ground game/wrestling is mediocre at best against good fighters. Her physique looks like a teenage boy with those weird flapping shorts.

 

[markantony20]

This guy is absolutely one of the least explosive and least athletic men to ever hold an undisputed belt imo.

Additionally he has no worthwhile pedigree.
No black belts I am aware of.
Not an NCAA wrestler or even juco


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[markantony20]

DC had great technique and fight IQ. But genetically he was not that talented. He was short and heavy, could not really jump or kick, the punching power was average.

Wat? DC was super athletic particularly in his takedowns, he was just a little plodding at times.

 

[Siver!]

Dave Menne
Jamahal Hillary
Sean Strickland
Matt Serra
Tom Sylvia
Tim Aspinall
Raquel Pennington
Nicco Montaño
Carla Esparza

 

[godhatesacoward]

Chuck was most certainly not glass jawwed in his prime or as a champion, quite the opposite.

He was also a division 1 collegiate wrestler, and had a very successful kickboxing career prior to MMA.

He just got OLD and paid the price for relying on his chin too much in his prime and likely partying a bit too much.

also he got punched by rampage jackson so he just stopped having a chin

 

[CroCopsLHK]

I think that is somewhat the nature of the topic.

But the reality is the even in a set of successful people someone will be the worst.

Someone somewhere is the smartest retard and someone else is the dumbest genius, but any time you seek out that "oxymoron" territory it is likely to ruffle some feathers.

The least athletic UFC champ is still probably in the top 1% or so of athletes, they are not only a professional athlete but a champion at the professional level and in the for the most part most competitive league for MMA, and all of the champs post 2010 or so are probably millionaire or at least earned over a mil in their careers.

Someone gotta be the lowest class rank at Harvard.

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That aside, Nicco is a solid answer, but personally I think WMMA is such trash and her belt in particular was such a joke, with Valentina around and not included and then Nicco basically ghosted when time came to face Val. What a fucking mess.

That girl is essentially a trivia question for hardcore mma fans.

I personally don't consider her a "ufc champion"
- she won a reality TV show tournament and
-beat a girl who already lost in that single elimination tourney , and it was her only UFC win ever,
-over Roxy who has a whopping 4-7 UFC record.

Fair enough. I think you could say Royce but he was a multi tournament winner

Champion wise sad to say but id say the late and great Evan Tanner.

 

[Pierced7681]

Gotta be Pennington imo she has zero athleticism and is just a sloppy brawler. Every other fighter I can think of who’s gotten the title has at least been a good athlete like Forrest Griffin

 

[BluntForceTrama]

Michael Bisping. Had good cardio but that was all.

Pfffft
U forgot to mention his lionheart

 

[BluntForceTrama]

O malley