Kurt Cobain gun tests

I dont know why its so hard for people to accept he killed himself. All he ever did was complain about life.


The whole justice for kurt thing is a bunch of crap.

"He was on a letal dose of heroin"

He was a fuckin rockstar. Kinda like an alcoholic can function with a bac of .4 when thats gonna put a normal person passed out. Do 8balls of heroin everyday you can be alert on a high dose

This video even the guy admits it wouldnt be hard to do. If youve ever held a shot gun you could for sure shoot yourself in the face if you wanted to.



Agreed. Not only that but he was just released from the hospital a bit before this because he purposefully od’d on H.


He was depressed, hopelessly addicted to drugs, and struggled from intense stomach pain that no Dr could explain. He also had multiple attempts on his life at this point.. dude killed himself. It’s sad, but it’s what happened.


To add to this even Krist and Dave don’t buy into these dumbass theories. And they hate Courtney with a fiery passion.
 
The conspiracies are dumb and it's dumb to think anything other than he killed himself

Also... The era between 1990-1994 is the goat imo. Who cares about the "grunge" label. Siamese Dream is my favorite album of all time. Pearl Jam is my favorite band and Janes Addiction and AIC were some of the most talented bands of all time.
 
Co ain wasnt living long anyway he was a willful heavy drug addict . How he died never made much sense and theres alot of wtf issues in that case. If I had to bet I would say she shot him or had it done but theres a chsnce I guess it was suicide . I never was too outraged as it was just a matter of when he died I doubt he sees year 2000 regardless. Not sure what happened there but I think its more likely the wife than anything
 
Soaked in Bleach is a great doc that really goes deep into this topic. Found it free on YT, if anyone wants to check it out.


they really got people to talk, Norm Stamper is the former chief of police in seattle, he seems to think the investigation wasn't very thorough. They also make a case that even a hardcore heroin addict wouldn't be conscious long enough to pull the trigger with the amount he took. Also, some people think the suicide note was forged. That part sounds the most plausible to me because people try to shift blame, or use a suicide note to manipulate folks. I remember seeing a woman reading her daughters suicide note and I couldn't escape the feeling that she wrote it to try and convince people she wasn't a bad mother which shouldn't have really been necessary, but it was just a hunch. People do strange shit I tell ya, my own cousin tried to tell me she had my mothers confession in a letter to murdering my dad, I just thought my cousin was a psycho for that one. Women do nutty shit.
 
The conspiracies are dumb and it's dumb to think anything other than he killed himself

Also... The era between 1990-1994 is the goat imo. Who cares about the "grunge" label. Siamese Dream is my favorite album of all time. Pearl Jam is my favorite band and Janes Addiction and AIC were some of the most talented bands of all time.
who's aic? I'd pick all the decades from the fifties up to the 80's as far better than any decade since.
 
The conspiracies are dumb and it's dumb to think anything other than he killed himself

Also... The era between 1990-1994 is the goat imo. Who cares about the "grunge" label. Siamese Dream is my favorite album of all time. Pearl Jam is my favorite band and Janes Addiction and AIC were some of the most talented bands of all time.
 
who's aic? I'd pick all the decades from the fifties up to the 80's as far better than any decade since.
I guess it's all a matter of perspective and your age too I suppose. I think current rock music has been pretty bad for a while now.... But we still have bands like The Strokes, Arctic monkeys, Queens of the Stone Age, and The White Stripes post 2000.

But, good rock is good rock, regardless of era. I listen to it all.
 
Agreed. Not only that but he was just released from the hospital a bit before this because he purposefully od’d on H.


He was depressed, hopelessly addicted to drugs, and struggled from intense stomach pain that no Dr could explain. He also had multiple attempts on his life at this point.. dude killed himself. It’s sad, but it’s what happened.


To add to this even Krist and Dave don’t buy into these dumbass theories. And they hate Courtney with a fiery passion.
Original working title for "In Utero" was "I Hate Myself and I Want To Die".

As for the theory that a drugged out mess of a woman like Courtney Love was some criminal mastermind who pulled off the perfect murder...

<puhlease>
 
Original working title for "In Utero" was "I Hate Myself and I Want To Die".

As for the theory that a drugged out mess of a woman like Courtney Love was some criminal mastermind who pulled off the perfect murder...

<puhlease>
I saw courtnet loves band Hole play some big sxsw party like 15 years ago and..


I was pretty blown away. She was great.
 
I think that is a large part of any fad, the part about a generation just craving something different to call their own. Let's face it, kids really don't know what's being marketed to them for the most part in terms of quality. Image and marketing have a huge role. I consider myself very fortunate to grow up in the era I did, MJ, Prince, Springsteen were all formidable artists.


Paul McCartney and David Bowie are about as formidable as it gets in the music world and they loved what Cobain was doing and even expressed interest in working with him.


Art is subjective but your commentary in this thread on Cobains prowess as a writer, musician, and his impact in this arena is pretty jaded.
 
Paul McCartney and David Bowie are about as formidable as it gets in the music world and they loved what Cobain was doing and even expressed interest in working with him.


Art is subjective but your commentary in this thread on Cobains prowess as a writer, musician, and his impact in this arena is pretty jaded.
I guess, I did give him credit as a writer and he was an ok singer but he wasn't really good at much else. Compared to what I'd seen before it just didn't seem all that impressive.
 
I guess, I did give him credit as a writer and he was an ok singer but he wasn't really good at much else. Compared to what I'd seen before it just didn't seem all that impressive.


I’m ok with the opinion. That’s how you feel.


But you can’t deny he was well regarded by not just his peers, but also well established legends who came before him. Nirvana is also without a doubt one of the most important bands in music history whether or not you like them is another story. But they had a huge impact on musical landscape even if that’s not what they set out to do.
 
never too into morrison either, always mean to listen to more of the doors but never get around to it. It's ironic that morrison never wanted to be a star (if that's true) he really made being pretentious and posturing a thing in rock music. Before the 60's, the theory is that most rockers were blissfully unware of exactly what they did, which, is of course not 100 percent true but has a lot of truth to it.
Morrison was a dickhead in those LA circles in the 60s and a lot of people didn't like him. But being a raging alcoholic will do that. Morrison is still overrated as a singer but the doors as whole were an extremely talented band. Robby's slide guitar and Ray's keys just worked in a way that hadn't been heard before. I suggest you take a listen to the first two albums and LA Woman.

LA Woman is a top five favorite all time song for me.
 
The conspiracies are dumb and it's dumb to think anything other than he killed himself

Also... The era between 1990-1994 is the goat imo. Who cares about the "grunge" label. Siamese Dream is my favorite album of all time. Pearl Jam is my favorite band and Janes Addiction and AIC were some of the most talented bands of all time.



The 90’s in general have an agument of being the GOAT era for music. The seeds came from the 80’s but hit their stride in the 90’s. There were so many different genres hitting their stride and so much experimentation in music at that time.


The only era that I might put above it is the ‘classic rock’ era.
 
Morrison was a dickhead in those LA circles in the 60s and a lot of people didn't like him. But being a raging alcoholic will do that. Morrison is still overrated as a singer but the doors as whole were an extremely talented band. Robby's slide guitar and Ray's keys just worked in a way that hadn't been heard before. I suggest you take a listen to the first two albums and LA Woman.

LA Woman is a top five favorite all time song for me.



Robbies tone alone on guitar is fucking insane. Morrison was the perfect front man for them tho. I personally love ‘The Doors’
 
I’m ok with the opinion. That’s how you feel.


But you can’t deny he was well regarded by not just his peers, but also well established legends who came before him. Nirvana is also without a doubt one of the most important bands in music history whether or not you like them is another story. But they had a huge impact on musical landscape even if that’s not what they set out to do.
dying when he did might have helped but yes, there was talk even when he was alive that he was a lennon for his generation, i could see that. I personally wouldn't put him in the ranks of the many greats that i love but that's just me.

Had he lived, the band probably would have disintegrated and he either would have went solo or tried to form another band, we'll never know how he would have went. Part of the aesthetic of that era was trying to have no aesthetic, trying to look normal or dishevelled, which is not cool in any way. Like I say, that was the era, stripping things down to almost nothing and it actually was referred to as punk music in it's time but I have to just say, after seeing all that had come before, it just seemed like not very impressive. It definitely hit though. Being in Seattle I couldn't avoid the buzz over the town at the time, everyone and their brother started bands and people were moving here from everywhere. I knew some of the musicians in the genre but I was nothing like them, I thought they were phoney and i thought the self-destructive stuff was stupid. Nothing cool about being all dirty and fucked up.
 
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