Seems the last few tournaments I went to, seems like all the kids where in a rush to have their butts hit the ground and close guard. Many hitting the mats with no grips except the grip of air because the other person just stepped back is what they are used to. Maybe as one person put it, its the rules, no matter in real self defense the person on top would be raining down hammer fist on the but scooter if a real fight. Then another guys said, well the Miyao Brothers and Mendes brothers have won tons of tournaments doing this. My reply, so why have none of them ever fought in the Open Division to show their skills and techniques will work on those larger or is t just about staying in the comfort zone and really not proving anything? You know the whole point of Jiu Jitsu? One of the parents took exception and thought I was making a slam against their school, which I was not. Seems now days you cant ask a question without someone getting butt hurt for real or imagined. A few weeks back my kids went to a seminar with the Ruotolo Twins. Master Fabio Santo posted against these kids, which I thought was not only unfair but beneath someone of his stature. After all, they are just kids bring joy to other kids that day. Nobody knows who will be the ones on top when kids continue on or new kids enter the art. I guess my point is, as long as the kids are having fun, then the whole sports tournament style vs learning tournament with real application styles is moot.