Serious? Do you train? What do you train in? I've got see to this whole "you can just throw low kicks and middle kicks just like if u were jabbing" in action. The simple fact that you have to balance on one leg to throw a kick means that kicks generally will take longer to execute than a punch.
In terms of "time to target" measurement, it is a very rare person that can kick faster than they can punch to the same distance.
In terms of the speed of the limb/striking surface itself, I concede that kicks could be as fast, if not faster than punches.
Besides the unneeded philosophy I don't really know if u went back to the vids and check them, you can download VIdeo Surgeon or some other Video Editor that will slow down the videos in their parts of the second and u will see how it works.
Just the last video I posted with Brandon Vera showed that Brandon Vera who is not even a Dutch Kickboxer or Muay Thai can Throw a HIGH KICK in 0.3 sec now imagine a low kick or a middle kick, surely it will be half the time of the High Kick since the distance to the target is closer.
Check this vid where George St Pierre can kick Faster than he can punch and so do most of kickboxers or ESPECIALLY Nak Muay Thais, the only people that can punch Faster than THEY can kick are boxers cuz of course they can't kick at all.
That you have to balance yourself before you throw a kick is a bunch of nonsense cuz you can't do that, there is no balance when u throw a kick, u stand in your Muay Thai Stance or Usual Kickboxing stance and u just shoot for a kick and when you throw the kick then you are out of balance since you are in one leg and I don't know if u been following kickboxing or Muay Thai but if u get caught with a punch or push kick while throwing a kick you will be flying like a bag of potatoes.
you don't need to balance yourself when throwing a kick cuz there is no balance once one of your legs is up and thrown with full power to crush bones.
And Yes I have trained Kickboxing before, not a pro but enough, and you don't need to train Kickboxing to know how kickboxing works, if you are careful enough and follow the sport enough u will see how it works.
Maybe High Kicks need to be set a little bit I mean set your balance but Low Kicks don't really need to be set or middle kicks cuz it is easier to throw, the hardest part of throwing a kick is the technique, if you master it you will be throwing kicks very fast and reflexive just like Nak Muay Thais do.
if u ask me I think Nak Muay Thais or Kickboxers can throw low kicks as fast as a boxer can punch if not faster, the leg has bigger muscles uses more energy and in the end the leg has greater impact which usually proves that the Greater the force the kick thrown the greater the power and more speed of course.
If Brandon Vera could throw a High Kick in 0.3s then I don't know about Lumpee Champ Guys or Masato or some other Guys coming from Kickboxing and Muay Thai.
In terms of "time to target" measurement, it is a very rare person that can kick faster than they can punch to the same distance.
Not Really, if we are talking same distance then we are probably not talking about saying that a jab which is the fastest Punch is the same as a High Kick cuz the distance is not the same, obviously.
you have to compare a jab to a Low kick to the leading leg or a Straight Right to a kick on the thighs or a hook to a Kick to the body (mid Section), you can't compare a Jab to a High Kick, that will make no sense.
I think in this terms a kick COULD be even faster than a punch.
In terms of the speed of the limb/striking surface itself, I concede that kicks could be as fast, if not faster than punches.
I don't know if you saw the Vids from Sport and Science where they measured 4 types of Kicks, where a Muay Thai Guy kicked, a Tae Kwan Do, Karateka and Copeira.
The slowest kick was measured with 71 mph whereas the fastest 135mph.
That Light weight Boxing Champ in Sport and Science was also measured and he punched with 30 Feet/s which is not even close to the slowest kick measured.
I am sure in times of Speed that a kick is faster than a punch but the problem is that legs are so big and require much more energy than arms that the First kick will be lightning fast and if u try throwing 10 kicks in a raw the other kicks coming will slow down in speed drastically, and the good thing about punches is that punches won't slow down fast like that.
For instance you can throw 10 kicks the first will be 100 Mph fast the second 80 the 3rd 60 and so on but punches go like 90mph second 90mph 3rd 90mph and maybe the last 3 punches will slow a bit down but not as fast as kicks will slow down.
Anyways we were talking about single thrown kick, a low kick only one and a single thrown Punch cuz usually kicks are set up with punches and considering their speed and power can be used effectively.
That is why I needed someone to correct me and I am grateful that you stopped by this thread to make some stuff clear
It assumes instantaneous acceleration. Being that the acceleration of his fist isn't constant, you can't even use algebra to solve for it.
Interesting, can you somehow pull out some numbers from these videos given, I mean the videos back in second page ?
Given Power it generates, the speed and also calculate some kind of reach we maybe be able to calculate something or pull out numbers.
Brandon Vera's HIGH KICK was measured 0.3sec which brings me to if that dude can throw a high kick that fast imagine someone like Souwer, Masato or Muay THai fighter can throw a low or middle kick, I think in this case my calculations would be true.
I am of course not saying I am right I just want to discuss this topic with people like you who ultimately say something worthy like you just did with the acceleration thing and I think you had a good point.
Your basic kinematics equations are predicated upon "constant" acceleration. You would need calculus to solve for it, and some function relating velocity, and acceleration already.
Of course you could just use video review like Myth Busters does.
I think you are up to something but we need to see numbers.
there are the vids, I don't know if u have any kind of VIdeo Editor that will slow down the video REALLY SLOW, I mean REALLY SLOW not just 50%, so of course we can see how long it takes from the time he lifts the foot of the ground to the time he touches the target.
