KICKBOXER: VENGEANCE and RETALIATION

[Guestx]

Well, I got a kick out of when gangster Van Damme looked at regular Van Damme (basically his character from Kickboxer, Bloodsport, etc.) and says, "Look at him. ."

"Never in my life would I wear black silk underwear!"

You bringing that up reminds me of another one of my favorite lines:

"Yeah, maybe I'm drunk. Tomorrow I'll be sober. But he'll always be a ."

After watching the performances in Deadly Prey, one does appreciate that Van Damme could usually deliver ordinary lines without reading false. There is certainly a level far below that: Deadly Prey, Rousey, Couture, Carano, adult Linda Blair, etc.

I think Carano is actually okay. Not great, but serviceable. Definitely MUCH better than Rousey. Did you ever see Haywire? Not a bad performance.

 

[BisexualMMA]

I think Carano is actually okay. Not great, but serviceable. Definitely MUCH better than Rousey. Did you ever see Haywire? Not a bad performance.

I saw Haywire. She had some real issues. I think she actually had a problem with looking directly at the camera (my theory) because they made a noticeable point of putting things between her and the camera to sort of avert her eyes / hide her eyes / give her something she appeared to be looking at.

Her voice challenges have been well documented. But I think she has real difficulty delivering any line like a person who is naturally speaking, and also is not capable of emoting anything at all. The best she is capable of is either flirtatious lip bite (surface mannerism) or clenched-jaw concentration / determination (surface mannerism).

I think she is better than Rousey, but they are in the same general category for me. Carano is an F+ or maybe a D- on a good day, whereas Rousey is somewhere from F to F-.

I also recently saw her in some shit movie with Robert DeNiro and Jeffrey Dean Morgan. She was Rousey bad in that one, after years to get better from Haywire.

 

[Guestx]

I saw Haywire. She had some real issues. I think she actually had a problem with looking directly at the camera (my theory) because they made a noticeable point of putting things between her and the camera to sort of avert her eyes / hide her eyes / give her something she appeared to be looking at.

Her voice challenges have been well documented. But I think she has real difficulty delivering any line like a person who is naturally speaking, and also is not capable of emoting anything at all. The best she is capable of is either flirtatious lip bite (surface mannerism) or clenched-jaw concentration / determination (surface mannerism).

I think she is better than Rousey, but they are in the same general category for me. Carano is an F+ or maybe a D- on a good day, whereas Rousey is somewhere from F to F-.

I also recently saw her in some shit movie with Robert DeNiro and Jeffrey Dean Morgan. She was Rousey bad in that one, after years to get better from Haywire.

Interesting. I give Haywire Carano a C, I think. F is where the worst actors in Deadly Prey end up and she's definitely better than that. She actually surprised me in Haywire. I expected worse.

 

[Substance Abuse]

"Never in my life would I wear black silk underwear!"

You bringing that up reminds me of another one of my favorite lines:

"Yeah, maybe I'm drunk. Tomorrow I'll be sober. But he'll always be a ."




I think Carano is actually okay. Not great, but serviceable. Definitely MUCH better than Rousey. Did you ever see Haywire? Not a bad performance.

Best post in this thread! Lol

 

[Smashandgrab]

I actually think his performance in wake of death was his best/one of his best.

 

[Adamant]

Seeing JCVD in the trailer just made me wish he was the main character. Why not just make it a sequel to the original with old man Kurt Sloane fighting again? That would have been 10x more interesting than this looks.

 

[Bullitt68]

For people who are interested, I met Bey Logan at a martial arts movie conference a few months ago and he's actually producing a sequel, Kickboxer: Retaliation, which just started filming in Thailand a couple of days ago. The fact that they're doing two Kickboxer movies pretty much back-to-back seems a bit odd to me (after all, we're not exactly going to be dealing with LOTR or Hunger Games type profits here) but hopefully they'll both be good.

I loved JCVD in Dragon Eyes where he was a similar guru-type figure for Cung Le. Provided the scripts here are more than just references to the original, maybe there'll be some cool shit for him to do. As for Alain Moussi, I've never heard of him, and I'm not particularly stoked to see Batista, but the training sequences look like they might be pretty cool.

The sequel is going to be similar in terms of the supporting cast. Instead of Batista, they're going to have that Game of Thrones WSM guy. I don't watch Game of Thrones, so I've only seen that guy compete in WSM rather than act, but the sequel is also going to have a pretty sizable Brazilian MMA contingent with Werdum, Wand, Shogun, Babalu, and Jacare, plus PVZ and even Mike Tyson (Bey is like best buddies with Donnie Yen and he was on set during Ip Man 3 and said Tyson was cool as hell and awesome to work with, so I guess he's bringing him along for the Kickboxer sequel).

On his Facebook page, Bey has posted a couple of cool pictures with the Kickboxer crew. First, here's him with JCVD and Moussi at a Bangkok screening of Kickboxer: Vengeance.

And then most recently he posted a pic with Werdum from the set.

No troll face=Disappoint

 

[Guestx]

The sequel is going to be similar in terms of the supporting cast. Instead of Batista, they're going to have that Game of Thrones WSM guy. I don't watch Game of Thrones, so I've only seen that guy compete in WSM rather than act, but the sequel is also going to have a pretty sizable Brazilian MMA contingent with Werdum, Wand, Shogun, Babalu, and Jacare, plus PVZ and even Mike Tyson (Bey is like best buddies with Donnie Yen and he was on set during Ip Man 3 and said Tyson was cool as hell and awesome to work with, so I guess he's bringing him along for the Kickboxer sequel).

Oh. . . Great. . . So a Kickboxer movie is going to have a bunch of BJJ guys. Sounds legit.

 

[Sasquatch Smith]

If Gina takes her shirt off it MIGHT be worth seeing.

 

[Organic Damage]

GSP should've been Kurt Sloane 2.0
He has the right look and accent to match JCVD.

Yeah I don't understand why this wasn't a GSP starring vehicle.

Maybe he can't act but I'm sure he has the fighting part down, and unlike Alain Moussi people know who the fuck GSP is.

 

[Bullitt68]

Oh. . . Great. . . So a Kickboxer movie is going to have a bunch of BJJ guys. Sounds legit.

Do you not know who those people are? Werdum and Jacare are the only "BJJ guys" on that list. And they've developed great striking. Wand and Shogun, meanwhile, are two of the fiercest MT exponents in MMA history, while Babalu was a champion MT fighter before he ever hooked up with Ruas and started MMA. And regardless, they're all far more "legit" than Batista.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Update: August 8, 2016

Christopher Lambert Joins Jean-Claude Van Damme in KICKBOXER: RETALIATION

Christopher Lambert has joined the cast of Kickboxer: Retaliation. Lambert’s casting teams him with Jean-Claude Van Damme to meld two of the great genre movies Highlander and Kickboxer, movies that motivate audiences years after their initial box office releases. Kickboxer: Retaliation is the second installment in a trilogy reboot of 1989’s hit action film Kickboxer.

Kickboxer: Retaliation picks up where Kickboxer: Vengeance leaves off with Kurt Sloan, Alain Moussi continuing as the lead character, in Thailand fending for his life against a new formidable foe, Mongkut, portrayed by Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson (Game of Thrones).

Lambert will portray Thomas Moore, a wealthy ex pat, who in his youth was a consummate martial artist and is currently the Godfather of Underground fighting in Thailand. He’s a purist that believes Muay Thai fighters who fight to the death are warriors. A master-manipulator, he has influence everywhere and of course with the use of his money, he is able to imprison Kurt Sloan in order to make him fight a monster. Moore does not accept the word “No.” With a state of the art scientist, using HGH, steroids and other concoctions, in his own lab, Moore has created Mongkut, 6′ 9″ and over 400 hundred pounds of Muay Thai destruction, Moore wants to use Sloan’s fame as world champion to advance his man by pitting the two champions, “David Vs Goliath,’ against each other in the ring.

Dimitri Logothetis, who owns the rights to the Kickboxer franchise and wrote and produced Kickboxer: Vengeance, serves as writer and director on Retaliation.

Kickboxer: Retaliation is currently filming principal photography on location in Thailand with additional filming taking place in California and Nevada.

The first film in the trilogy, Kickboxer: Vengeance stars Van Damme, Moussi, Dave Bautista and Gina Carano and hits theaters and VOD on September 2, 2016.

Christopher Lambert Joins Jean-Claude Van Damme and Paige Van Sant in 'Kickboxer: Retaliation

 

[AronaBeatsJones]

Update: August 8, 2016

Christopher Lambert Joins Jean-Claude Van Damme in KICKBOXER: RETALIATION

Christopher Lambert has joined the cast of Kickboxer: Retaliation. Lambert’s casting teams him with Jean-Claude Van Damme to meld two of the great genre movies Highlander and Kickboxer, movies that motivate audiences years after their initial box office releases. Kickboxer: Retaliation is the second installment in a trilogy reboot of 1989’s hit action film Kickboxer.

Kickboxer: Retaliation picks up where Kickboxer: Vengeance leaves off with Kurt Sloan, Alain Moussi continuing as the lead character, in Thailand fending for his life against a new formidable foe, Mongkut, portrayed by Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson (Game of Thrones).

Lambert will portray Thomas Moore, a wealthy ex pat, who in his youth was a consummate martial artist and is currently the Godfather of Underground fighting in Thailand. He’s a purist that believes Muay Thai fighters who fight to the death are warriors. A master-manipulator, he has influence everywhere and of course with the use of his money, he is able to imprison Kurt Sloan in order to make him fight a monster. Moore does not accept the word “No.” With a state of the art scientist, using HGH, steroids and other concoctions, in his own lab, Moore has created Mongkut, 6′ 9″ and over 400 hundred pounds of Muay Thai destruction, Moore wants to use Sloan’s fame as world champion to advance his man by pitting the two champions, “David Vs Goliath,’ against each other in the ring.

Dimitri Logothetis, who owns the rights to the Kickboxer franchise and wrote and produced Kickboxer: Vengeance, serves as writer and director on Retaliation.

Kickboxer: Retaliation is currently filming principal photography on location in Thailand with additional filming taking place in California and Nevada.

The first film in the trilogy, Kickboxer: Vengeance stars Van Damme, Moussi, Dave Bautista and Gina Carano and hits theaters and VOD on September 2, 2016.

Christopher Lambert Joins Jean-Claude Van Damme and Paige Van Sant in 'Kickboxer: Retaliation

Now this is a must-watch. Lambert is one underrated actor, and is extremely deserving of a career resurgence.

EDIT: Christ—aside from Lambert and Van Damme, this has FIGHT VALLEY level of cringeworthy MMA casting going on:

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Christopher Lambert has joined the cast of Kickboxer: Retaliation. Lambert’s casting teams him with Jean-Claude Van Damme to meld two of the great genre movies Highlander and Kickboxer, movies that motivate audiences years after their initial box office releases. Kickboxer: Retaliation is the second installment in a trilogy reboot of 1989’s hit action film Kickboxer.

Kickboxer: Retaliation picks up where Kickboxer: Vengeance leaves off with Kurt Sloan, Alain Moussi continuing as the lead character, in Thailand fending for his life against a new formidable foe, Mongkut, portrayed by Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson (Game of Thrones).

Lambert will portray Thomas Moore, a wealthy ex pat, who in his youth was a consummate martial artist and is currently the Godfather of Underground fighting in Thailand. He’s a purist that believes Muay Thai fighters who fight to the death are warriors. A master-manipulator, he has influence everywhere and of course with the use of his money, he is able to imprison Kurt Sloan in order to make him fight a monster. Moore does not accept the word “No.” With a state of the art scientist, using HGH, steroids and other concoctions, in his own lab, Moore has created Mongkut, 6′ 9″ and over 400 hundred pounds of Muay Thai destruction, Moore wants to use Sloan’s fame as world champion to advance his man by pitting the two champions, “David Vs Goliath,’ against each other in the ring.

Dimitri Logothetis, who owns the rights to the Kickboxer franchise and wrote and produced Kickboxer: Vengeance, serves as writer and director on Retaliation.

Kickboxer: Retaliation is currently filming principal photography on location in Thailand with additional filming taking place in California and Nevada.

The first film in the trilogy, Kickboxer: Vengeance stars Van Damme, Moussi, Dave Bautista and Gina Carano and hits theaters and VOD on September 2, 2016.

Christopher Lambert Joins Jean-Claude Van Damme and Paige Van Sant in 'Kickboxer: Retaliation

Holy fuck... I didn't know Highlander recently ran for President as a socialist.

 

[irish_thug]

Now this is a must-watch. Lambert is one underrated actor, and is extremely deserving of a career resurgence.

EDIT: Christ—aside from Lambert and Van Damme, this has FIGHT VALLEY level of cringeworthy MMA casting going on:

Needs more Cung Le

 

[taurus]

Am I the only one thinking Bjornsson will look like a crappy MT fighter? If they pull it off, great, but i have serious doubts.

 

[andyjeezy]

Just saw the movie and thought it was pretty fucking cool. All I wanted was something better than Kickboxer 2 and the shitty other non JCVD sequels and i was thoroughly impressed. If you like good fight choreography and good fighting action you'll like this. JCVD was awesome and kicks some serious ass. GSP is pretty good in this.

Can't wait for part 2 with mountain from Game of Thrones and Christopher Lambert. Saw it on Kodi if you want to find out.

 

[mrln242]

Big fat TURD! I hate these new action movies. Back in the 80's they were cool because the players were fallible. Like everyday schmucks who somehow succeeded. Daniel San for instance. Now thought its all this assholes with perfect faces and a perfect core who you look at and really arent convinced that dude can crush the other dude.

 

[The good dog]

Has anyone else seen this gem?

The main actor is a can, his brother mumbles really fast and only emphasises the last syllable in a sentence, and Gina Carano is constantly chewing her lips.

You'd think that with Bautista Van Damme and gsp being fighters at least the fight choreography would be decent, but you'd be wrong. At the beginning of the film gsp jumps over the main guy and they show the move from a few angles. The actor has his mouth open and looks up,swinging his head too fast so that he ends up looking at where gsp is going to land instead of where gsp actually is (still above him)...and they replay this bit a few times so you can really drink in the sub par acting.

I laughed out loud at that bit, unfortunately it only got worse from there.

On the plus side it makes Van Damme look like he's Oscar worthy even though his head is covered by hat and sunglasses most of the time.

 

[BisexualMMA]

Has anyone else seen this gem?

The main actor is a can, his brotherr mumbles really fast and only emphasises the last syllable in a sentence, and Gina Carano is constantly chewing her lips.

It is the only way she is capable of feigning emotion on camera. Someone really needs to give her a talk. Unfortunately, the Carano lip bite is what some people want to see.