Khamzat Will Most Likely Lose ...

svmr_db said:
"Usman is a 5 round fighter"

You'd be right.. if he had a full training camp. But here he is fighting at the highest weight he's ever fought & least preparation time during his UFC run. We can't expect to see the best Kamaru, and that's not even accounting for his age.
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Agree with you except for the higher weight class. If Usman is a 5 round fighter at 170, he definitely is at 185
 
DjolexMTL said:
Agree with you except for the higher weight class. If Usman is a 5 round fighter at 170, he definitely is at 185
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Right but all the times you've seen Usman go 5 rounds are fights he prepared months for. It's the difference between running a marathon with 2-3 months prep time and running it with 1-2 weeks, he's not gonna perform the same.
 
Paolo Delutis said:
If only MMA math was a thing that worked...

That said...lets go Usman i like an underdog who takes risks ...
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MMA Math works more often than not ... but nothing is infallible.

That said, I trust consistency and character ... and the ONLY guy who's beaten Usman (Edwards) has the identical consistency and character as himself. Edwards has been a sustained winner, for years, in the UFC.

As such, I would pick both Edwards, and Usman, to beat the young (inconsistent, no-character) Chimaev, quite frankly.

I will never trust Khamzat Chimaev.

I don't think he has the staying power of either Edwards or Usman, the consistent work ethic.

My belief is Chimaev will go the way of Conor McGregor — a talented "flash in the pan" without the self-control, or discipline, to be a sustained Champion.
 
Stone Golem said:
MMA Math works more often than not ... but nothing is infallible.

That said, I trust consistency and character ... and the ONLY guy who's beaten Usman (Edwards) has the identical consistency and character as himself. Edwards has been a sustained winner, for years, in the UFC.

As such, I would pick both Edwards, and Usman, to beat the young (inconsistent, no-character) Chimaev, quite frankly.

I will never trust Khamzat Chimaev.

I don't think he has the staying power of either Edwards or Usman, the consistent work ethic.

My belief is Chimaev will go the way of Conor McGregor — a talented "flash in the pan" without the self-control, or discipline, to be a sustained Champion.
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I will concur, on all points.
Usman and Edwards are great examples of the elite professional level and what being disciplined and consistent can do for ones fighting career
 
Stone Golem said:
Khamzat is a WW, who doesn't feel like losing weight, so compete at MW.

If he had good coaches, and self-discipline, he would still complete at WW, where he has a huge advantage. [Else, how did he beat (after a titanic struggle with) former lightweight, Gilbert Burns, at welterweight, within the past year?]

You can bet how you want to.

My bet = Khamzat is a front runner — NOT a distance fighter.

If he wins, he wins early.

My other bet is that, Kamaru Usman = Distance Fighter.

If Khamzat doesn't do something, and quickly, he will get enveloped and folded (like a cheap lawn chair) by Usman.

Time will tell.
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O not a fight I would bet on but I hope Usman gets it done.
 
Ignore the losers who are dismissing your take.

I want to agree with you because I think what you predict would have happened had this fight taken place two years ago. It would have resembled the first fight between Stipe and Ngannou. A champion maintains his composure at the beginning of every round and dominates them all against a reckless up and coming challenger. Usman's biggest strength was his composure. That comfort was almost Jones-esque. He would have picked Khamzat apart with his jab and hurt him.

Then, I watched that third fight against Leon. Usman is no longer the fighter he once was. As good of a striker Leon is, I think Khamzat has the more unorthodox, dangerous hands. I'm 50-50 on this fight now.
 
You better hope TS. Otherwise Alex can never come back to MW ever again
 
Tweak896 said:
If Khamzat gets him early I can see an easy finish.
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Right, but ChenChen's scumbag fake glove-touch takedown was already played, showing his PoS character. Usman won't fall for that cheap $hit like Holland did. I'm with SG on the longevity of a 5 round fight being in Usman's favor.

Khamzat's size and training camp are for sure both major advantages, he looks to be in great shape. The Burns fight showed everyone that the longer it lasted, the less speed and strength output was shown from Khamzat. This fight will be a banger that will show the world whether his hype is real or just UFC fluff.
 
Chimaev fought like an idiot against Burns and his coach was screaming at him. Usman is taking this on 10 days notice, is getting older and is a 170lber while Khamzat has been preparing to fight at 185lbs and is bigger than a lot of guys at 185.
 
svmr_db said:
Right but all the times you've seen Usman go 5 rounds are fights he prepared months for. It's the difference between running a marathon with 2-3 months prep time and running it with 1-2 weeks, he's not gonna perform the same.
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Yeah I agree for the short notice, I was just talking about the weighclass comment

Crazy how we got 2 short notice high caliber fights on the same card
 
LoveSherdogThisTime said:
Ignore the losers who are dismissing your take.

I want to agree with you because I think what you predict would have happened had this fight taken place two years ago. It would have resembled the first fight between Stipe and Ngannou. A champion maintains his composure at the beginning of every round and dominates them all against a reckless up and coming challenger. Usman's biggest strength was his composure. That comfort was almost Jones-esque. He would have picked Khamzat apart with his jab and hurt him.

Then, I watched that third fight against Leon. Usman is no longer the fighter he once was. As good of a striker Leon is, I think Khamzat has the more unorthodox, dangerous hands. I'm 50-50 on this fight now.
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Different opportunities bring different results (as well as different levels of excitement / intensity).

Wanting to go through a whole camp again, against fierce highly-train combatant like Edwards is a daunting prospect.

Wanting to come off the couch, and face a spoiled/inconsistent child (like Chimaev), who barely beat a puffy lightweight — that YOU BEAT EASILY — is motivating.

The propensity for staying power is huge.
The "lack of" proven staying power is also huge.

In a massive fight, understanding the fact "anything can happen," I will always side with the fighter with PROVEN staying power.
 
Fergelmince said:
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So who won that fight?

each time I see you post I get more amazed with how much of an absolute simpleton you are

you really are that fuckin dumb aren’t you
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Stone Golem said:
  • "It ain't the size of the dog in the fight; it's the size of the fight in the dog."
    ~ Gen./Pres. Dwight D. Eisenhower
Khamzat barely beat Burns.
Kamaru had a brief "clip," then beat the absolute fog out of Burns.

Over time, Usman will break and expose the "deer-heart" in Chimaev.

Chimaev will prove to be a front-running cur, just like Conor.

Looks outstanding "when winning" .... but will always shit himself when facing a champion who won't quit.
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Deer have crazy heart sir, that's a shit analogy.
 
Why Kamaru will lose
-He's old. Khamzat is young. He's past prime. Khamzat on the other hand can only improve at this point.
-His knees seemed to be a real problem in the Leon trilogy
-He's capable of getting hit when forced backwards. Khamzat hits a lot harder than the other guys he's been facing.
-He won't have the size advantage he typically enjoys

Why Khamzat will lose
-He's not refined enough in the striking department. When Usman moves forward, he has a nasty jab and one punch power.
-He was unable to effectively grapple the only elite grappler he's faced. Good luck getting and holding Kamaru down.
-His gas tank is unproven, and possibly even suspect. Kamaru's is proven.
-Kamaru has much more experience against top level competition than Khamzat does
 
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