***Khamzat vs Burns MEGATHREAD***

[Morning Star]

The vast majority of his had more impact than the vast majority of khamzat's strikes.

I disagree as did all 3 judges and 2/3rds of Sherdog.

 

[nostradumbass]

Very rare that someone's stock drops after a great fight with the 3rd guy in the division, but with those ridiculous odds, Khamzat's stock dropped. People had him winning both WW and MW belts already, but he took some real damage and looked beatable.

 

[Unheralded Truth]

Funny how we went from
"Chimaev should be -1500, Burns is an old and washed up LW, Chimaev is also gonna kill Kamaru "bad knees" Usman and Izzy "no wrestling" Adesanya" to "Lol you morons, Chimaev just beat the number 2 ranked, who is a freaking beast, the hype train still goes" when this fight was a super close decision win AT BEST.

I understand what you mean, some people do exaggerate for sure. A lot of us are just having fun with it though, and honestly I was super impressed with Khamzat's power in this one. How in the first half of round 3 he kept Gilbert up against the cage and looked way too fast for him. That after a bad round that Gilbert clearly won he bounced back. Don't know how you mean that there shouldn't be any hype when we all saw that happen against a top 3 fighter.

 

[mkt]

Colby is probably an easier fight for Chimaev. The Jui jitsu threw him off in this fight thats why he couldnt wrestle as much as he wanted to. Hes a better wrestler then Colby and Colby hasnt got the striking power that Burns has.

Eh, BJJ never threw Khabib or GSP off. You're right about Burns having more striking power, but Colby has the same kind of chin and cardio that Khamzat does. So it's not an easy fight to call. Burns folds faster than Colby.

 

[BrockLesnarsTurtleBack]

Hopefully they make Khamzat vs Colby, that could be a fantastic fight.

 

[johndhi]

I guess it turns out Darren till's opinion and a video of a random "bjj black belt" who looked a little like Gilbert getting subbed aren't the way to judge a fighter.

 

[BoxingFan653]

I agree he didn’t look great, but only because of the standard that was expected.

Every fighter needs a test. Khamzat’s defense was very underwhelming, too overconfident. We’ll see how he responds now that he doesn’t feel invincible.

agreed but he’s not close to Izzy level right now. I love the guys energy though

 

[mmaknight]

I mean if you actually saw that 2nd fight you would know how close it was, with Colby walking forward winning the last 2 rounds. It was even closer than this fight.

And it's not about how much you win by. Kamaru won. There's no if, ands, or buts about it.

I see your argument. I do. It was a close fight in their 2nd encounter but Kamaru adjusted, just like a formidable champion should, and took the W home.

 

[mkt]

I think it had more to do with conserving energy, he already was exhausted and barely had energy left in the 3rd, without wrestling.

He's no Khabib.

Also his top control is mediocre. No way Burns would've gotten up so easily with Khabib ontop.

Khamzat will struggle in 5 round fights, especially with high pressure fighters like Colby and Usman, hell I'd take Diaz over Khamzat in 5 rounds.

Some decent points but no way I'd take the current version of Nick or Nate. Prime Nick from 10 years ago? Maybe. Nate is probably too small and even a younger Nate would get tossed around. Go back and watch Rory vs. Nate.

 

[Queenofchaos]

hamzat didnt tire out and looked like burns couldnt take him down.
he was open to counters so he needs to tune up his striking.

colby i dunno if he has the striking to give him problems.

Khamzat was definitely tired mid second round

 

[Deezer]

Inside the Octagon.

Did you not watch the fight vs Burns?

I won't even explain it because tonight proved a lot and disproved a lot.
I like Khamzat. It was awesome. He's so dangerous. And I am truly a fan after that fight with Burns. Nevertheless, he still loses to Colby.

I'll ask again..where??
He's not outwresting him and he's not knocking him out. Khamzat will walk through Colby. Burns is a much more difficult stylistic match up. If burns can't out wrestle him Colby can't. Sneaking a points win and not getting hit would he his only hope that's why he's after Laws and no top 5 guys

 

[Swarthy]

Borz was magnificent vs a Burns who also had the fight of his life.

Khamzat the clear winner!!

 

[Hdfi]

 

[GoatArtemLobov]

I understand what you mean, some people do exaggerate for sure. A lot of us are just having fun with it though, and honestly I was super impressed with Khamzat's power in this one. How in the first half of round 3 he kept Gilbert up against the cage and looked way too fast for him. That after a bad round that Gilbert clearly won he bounced back. Don't know how you mean that there shouldn't be any hype when we all saw that happen against a top 3 fighter.

Because the hype wasn't "Chimaev is a great fighter, he has a good chance of winning against the number 2 ranked guy in Burns, which is impressive considering he has 4 fights in the UFC" it was "Chimaev is gonna murder Burns, and then Usman and Izzy, -700 for him isn't even wide enough".
This was literally what they said, I can quote it.

 

[JoshR86]

Some decent points but no way I'd take the current version of Nick or Nate. Prime Nick from 10 years ago? Maybe. Nate is probably too small and even a younger Nate would get tossed around. Go back and watch Rory vs. Nate.

Khamzat isn't finishing Nate on the ground, and won't have the cardio to keep up with Nate for 5 rounds.

Also Nate is far more dangerous than Burns on the ground, Khamzat wasn't comfortable ontop of Burns, Nate's BJJ could deter Khamzat's Ground just as easily.

 

[kenetics]

Collectively the idiots are out in full force dismissing Khamzat because he won a decision over the number 2 guy in the division. Didn’t Usman barely squeak by Kolby in their last fight? Did you guys legitimately think Khamzat would roll in and steamroll the division? He’s human and relatively new to MMA. The fact that he went in there and didn’t get finished, let alone winning the fight, was impressive enough. You guys are like Jake Paul fans ffs.

I thought usman clearly beat Colby last fight

 

[JoshR86]

Lol Burns got atleast 1 KD in the 2nd, arguably 2.

 

[Dim1]

Burns little rabbit punches at the end of the third didn't impress. I thought the 3rd was a narrow win for Khamzat who walked him down the full round, Burns looked much worse in terms of sustained damage and really only got Khamzat's attention at two specific points.

 

[Sausage_Carius]

MMA fans are fucking poison.

 

[Deezer]

I began to truly appreciate Khabib’s greatness during the moments when Burns was piecing up Khamzat. Khamzat got cut, dropped, and was in real trouble at times in this fight. Something which never happened to Khabib. Even in the controversial Tibau fight, he never got beat up as badly as Khamzat did.

Completely different styles though. I don't for a second think Khamzat is a Khabib or anywhere near it but when did Khabib fight a guy as good on the ground as Gilbert? To where he'd have to stand with a dude with BIG power?? Never mind in his 10th fight. This was a HUGE jump