Khamzat is a wrestler

Sticko said:
Freestyle wrestling has a greater population of countries that practice it

But folkstyle arguably translates better to MMA than freestyle (less emphasis on high-amplitide throws, more emphasis on top control and escapes)
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All forms of wrestling - folkstyle, greco, freestyle, Turkish oil wrestling, etc. - have certain advantages that can be applied in MMA. I'd say it largely comes down to how one chooses to use their wrestling. Someone like Gaethje who utilizes folkstyle only defensively doesn't benefit that much from it. It also teaches bad habits like giving up your back.

I'd say Khabib has the best formula when it comes to MMA wrestling. He's trained in freestyle wrestling, sambo, judo, and no-gi grappling and is able to apply all them effectively.
 
Sambo is wrestling plus judo. You learn everything from wrestling but at the same time you have to defend against Judo throws as well (or you can utilize them yourself), so obviously it's superior to wrestling.

Now if you'd ask me if it's better to focus more on wrestling or judo for your MMA game, I'd easily say wrestling as Judo takedowns are harder to pull off in NoGi and you need to get the clinch first. However if you don't train any Judo at all, these Sambo fighters will almost always catch you eventually with a Judo throw.
 
Hitto said:
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Khamzat was a top 3 junior in Russia as you said....that’s levels above any garbage NCAA title

Khamzat already fought and ragdolled some D1 loser in his previous fights
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Who? If you're talking about sidney wheeler, I don't think that guy even went to college, so I'm not sure how he could be D1. He was a good highschool wrestler, but those are a dime a dozen and certainly not D1.
 
davidlemonparty said:
Hitto and Ackmed are fanbois but they stay in their lane and actually engage meaningfully with other posters
@d1 wrestler is just a fucking scrub
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No they legit just shit post

Hitto just posts gifs of conor being strangled (lol)
 
Iroh said:
You're easily one of my favorite posters on here. I think Russian rasslers still kinda look down on MMA, which is foolish, IMO. They'll eventually turn around though. MMA is too awesome. No can defend the allure of the ultimate pro combat sport.
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Lmfao this cunt
 
You are so annoying...
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so many words. so much arguing

wrestling, judo, sambo, ju jitsu, submission grappling < mma grappling. when talking about grappling in mma.
 
Imagine using Gaethje as wrestling example. Guy is using wrestling as much as I am and all my combat sports experience is training karate for a year and bjj for 8 months. And that was long time ago <45>
I will not even talk about his nonexistent bjj game. Guy would get submitted by Conor in graplling match, would bet anything on it. And it would't be close.
If you guys sre gonna talk about wrestlers, at least be serious about it and talk about someone who actually used it in his career.

P.S. No disrespect to Gaethje but there are not many people with such a limited ground game.
 
ImNotMirsadBektic said:
Sambo is wrestling plus judo. You learn everything from wrestling but at the same time you have to defend against Judo throws as well (or you can utilize them yourself), so obviously it's superior to wrestling.

Now if you'd ask me if it's better to focus more on wrestling or judo for your MMA game, I'd easily say wrestling as Judo takedowns are harder to pull off in NoGi and you need to get the clinch first. However if you don't train any Judo at all, these Sambo fighters will almost always catch you eventually with a Judo throw.
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My understanding is most if not all judo throws are legal in wrestling (though perhaps most wrestling coaches don't know them). I guess there are probably some gi throws that sambo borrows from judo but those won't translate to MMA.
 
D 1 Wrestler said:
Wrestled his entire life, not sambo. Please stop thinking he's like khabib or fedor. He already destroyed one of khabibs sambo world champ team mates. I truly wish more russian wrestlers would transition to mma but unfortunately very few do despite wrestling being the best base for MMA.

Thanks for reading
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But I thought that flakestyle was second only to NFL?
 
Freestyle and NCAA wrestling are separate sports. Freestyle wrestlers like Khabib and Khamzat show excellent ground control unlike Folkstyle wrestlers such as Gaethje.
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Normot said:
Freestyle and NCAA wrestling are separate sports. Freestyle wrestlers like Khabib and Khamzat show excellent ground control unlike Folkstyle wrestlers such as Gaethje.
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To be fair Gaethje basically decided to become a striker when he learned he had good punching power and wicked low kicks and he just leaned on his 10+ years of wrestling experience in his back pocket to keep it standing. I know what you're saying, but its pretty evident he doesn't work on his grappling at all outside of TDD and popping right back up, but that's more his athleticism than anything IMO.
 
He is not Khabib or Fedor indeed. 0 wins against notable fighters.
 
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