Khamzat beats any MW from any era

[OmegaRugal]

Well if Chael held him down for 4.5 rounds, then yeah Khamzat could probably do the same.

So it comes down to whether we believe Khamzat would get caught in a hail Mary triangle at the end.

I would say more likely is can Anderson make Khazmat work and gas him to the point where he lands a KO later in the fight.

Cuz we know Silva had the gas tank and the ground game. As for subs … even in a dominant win as he got last night … he almost got subbed while gassed in the fifth so a chael like Hail Mary could work as well.

But Khazmat should be the favorite even against prime Silva.

 

[RoastBeast]

I once painted a wall in my house and charged my friends $80 to watch it dry and they came away more entertained than those who watched that fight last night.

 

[Vehap1]

The guy who got ragdolled by Chael Sonnen?
Yeah lol.

Chael was roided to the gills... people really underestimate anabolic steroids

But yes Khamzat should beat prime AS as well

 

[CrimsonFan]

Maybe Jacare or Yoel Romero would have given Khamzat problems.

 

[OmegaRugal]

Nah, his fight against Usman shows he lacks cardio and has no striking. Even DDP, who was completely overmatched, ended up having chances almost sunk in a rear naked choke vs Khamzat when he gassed in round 5.

Khamzat would have zero chance against wrestlers that can actually defend his takedowns, including the "prime" versions of Chael Sonnen, Yoel Romero, Dan Henderson, Chris Weidman, etc.

I wouldn’t say no chance but those would probably be his toughest fights.

Small short notice and old Usman gave him a tough fight.

 

[Superzorro]

uh huh uh huh uh huh

how convenient how android silva at 29 was not in his prime yet when he was getting destroyed by not one but two japanese journeymen in pride lol

funny how that works but android silva fans aren't most rational ones. not then not now

It’s not convenience. It’s just common sense. Would the people who troubled him in Pride beat even the opponents he destroyed in the UFC? Takase and Chonan beat Vitor Belfort and Dan Henderson? You have to be crazy. His prime was his early 30s like every other fighter. And then let me ask you another question - when did Weidman leave his prime? Since you’re so consistent on this, he should be just now leaving his prime. Right? Because Silva’s in his prime at 40 according to you.

To go back to the original topic, the jiu jitsu guy he tapped out in the second round wasn’t troubling him. Sonnen was troubling him. Luter couldn’t even beat him in his best area.

 

[JustOnce]

Yeah I knew Weidman at 29 would beat a 38 year old as well. The only people who didn’t see this were casuals.

uh huh uh huh uh huh

how convenient how android silva at 29 was not in his prime yet when he was getting destroyed by not one but two japanese journeymen in pride lol

funny how that works but android silva fans aren't most rational ones. not then not now

It’s not convenience. It’s just common sense. Would the people who troubled him in Pride beat even the opponents he destroyed in the UFC? Takase and Chonan beat Vitor Belfort and Dan Henderson? You have to be crazy. His prime was his early 30s like every other fighter. And then let me ask you another question - when did Weidman leave his prime? Since you’re so consistent on this, he should be just now leaving his prime. Right? Because Silva’s in his prime at 40 according to you.

To go back to the original topic, the jiu jitsu guy he tapped out in the second round wasn’t troubling him. Sonnen was troubling him. Luter couldn’t even beat him in his best area.

lol okay man, let's respectfully agree to disagree.

Android Silva has the best MW resume, i can give him that.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

TRTor, Prime Chael, Prime Yoel Romero I think would have had good success

 

[Preston broadus]

The 2 guys Anderson was afraid of would beat him. Damian Maia and the other brazilian guy that he refused to engage.

 

[RichardHarrow]

Anderson submits KHamzat like he did Sonnen.

Yea because Sonnen was such a world beater like Khamzat.

 

[joey gerbils]

Prime Yoel "No gay jesus" Romero?

I think Prime Romero could do it.

He's more athletic, better wristler on paper, crazy finish ability and massive power in punches

 

[mkt]

2009 Anderson?

I hate to say it as a big fan of that era, but Chael was 2 minutes away from beating Anderson in a 5-round fight. Chael with Khamzat's submission defense would've won the title that night...then lost it when he failed the drug test afterwards.

Hendo and Travis Lutter also beat Anderson in the first round using Chael's approach. But they didn't have the pace/cardio of Chael and Hendo was too eager to trade bombs to follow a wrestling gameplan for 5 rounds.

 

[mkt]

Prime Yoel "No gay jesus" Romero?

I think Prime Romero could do it.

He's more athletic, better wristler on paper, crazy finish ability and massive power in punches

But he was outwrestled by Brunson so I don't know. It depends if he can at least stuff some TDs and get back to his feet more than DDP could.

 

[El Fernas]

Anderson Silva had BJJ to survive on the ground...there was a reason Chimaev didnt shoot on Burns from the 1st second, or didnt outclass Usman, Anderson beats him, Adesanya, prime Adesanya might beat him too.

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

And the hyperbole begins.

Surprised it took this long.

 

[mkt]

only guy who might beat him like 1 out of 10 times is palhares imo lul

That's actually a good point. At MW, I'd say Maia, Hector Lombard and of course GSP would be interesting opponents as Khamzat didn't seem to the same fighter after the 170 weight cut (Burns fight). Not sure if he could go 5 rounds like that. I mention Lombard because Shields could do nothing with him at 170. At 185, Hector was kind of small and not dominant.

I'd say prime Weidman would be Khamzat's toughest match-up. Prime Jacare and Rockhold might be interesting, but I'd favor Khamzat.

 

[CasualBot]

The fight last night...

Went to a fuckin decision.

Anderson would've finished him.

 

[bubbleboyjones]

Well if Chael held him down for 4.5 rounds, then yeah Khamzat could probably do the same.

So it comes down to whether we believe Khamzat would get caught in a hail Mary triangle at the end.

Khamzat is a really bad style match up for Silva though Silva claims he got a MRI 4 weeks out from the 2010 fight and his rib was fucked up bad. He did take out Chael in the rematch 2 years later in the second round but same issues with his wrestling in that fight despite winning. The only thing I would give prime Silva as an advantage over DDP is he has a better chance of landing something critical that could turn the match around in a split second but regardless that is a bad style matchup for him.

 

[mkt]

Anderson Silva had BJJ to survive on the ground...there was a reason Chimaev didnt shoot on Burns from the 1st second, or didnt outclass Usman, Anderson beats him, Adesanya, prime Adesanya might beat him too.

I think Anderson would defintely survive, but I don't know if he'd do any better than DDP trying to stop TDs or get back to his feet. And I think his odds of a submission would be very low. It took him over 23 minutes to submit Chael and submission defense was a weakness of Sonnen's.

Izzy gets manhandled. He had the luxury of almost no good grapplers in his era. I know Yoel was an Olympic wrestler, but he abandoned wrestling by the time he fought Izzy.

 

[joy2day]

Yea because Sonnen was such a world beater like Khamzat.

Matchups make fights.