Khabib's father about Jon Jones

[Doctor Grudge]

Fedor being a giant slayer is one of the strangest narratives. No one was saying this in 2005 and shit bar his freak show fights. Most of Fedor's opponents (the ones people gave a shit about) were around his size or even smaller.

It wasn't until Fedor came to the States that he was fighting big guys.

Fedor was a normal sized HW for his era. A little chubby around the waist, but this idea that he was a MW is really stupid. Fedor is much bigger than Anderson Silva, there is more to size than just height.

 

[Luffy]

Like Mike Tyson. He wasn't tall but he was very big... Size isn't just height. Otherwise you can call DDP a short MW. You can say DC was a MW as well....

 

[BowserJr]

Nope, you’re full of shit. Pussy. all you can do deflect and run away. There’s tons more,
i got you covered baby.

Look at how much you're seething.
Guess I struck a nerve again lol.

I have you responding to old ass posts from months and years ago. Thats how rent free I am in your head. I can go dark on here for years like I have many times and I can expect to have love letters from you replying to posts from years ago.

In any case its cute that you call me a hypocrite and say I use double standards. I disagree.

Even if we were to use the standard you describe then it would mean that you are using a double standard in your rebuttal.

So which is it?

Is there a double standard that we're both using.

Or are you saying nonesense when you cry about a double standard?

Any rational person can see that it cant be both.

I can already see your response.

A.Project
B. deny reality
C. delusion
D. Contradict yourself
E. Emotional outbursts and
F. way too much effort in trying but failing to dissect every 3 words I write.

Only question is how many of these will you hit?

 

[BowserJr]

Except they weren’t the best HW’s at the time. Couture, Lesnars, Mirs, Gonzaga’s. The HW’s that beat Fedors peers.

Fedor beat a broken Frank Mir who hadn’t fought in a few years. A in prime Frank Mir would’ve took home Fedors limbs, easily.

Fedor fought 2 fighters who were out of their primes both Schilt 35+ and Herring were 27+ fights in their careers & Noguiera 20+ fights in their careers, to Fedors 12 fights in his prime!, i don’t care what you say, 20 plus training camps and you’re not in your prime anymore.

Lol, 50% of his competition were cans & could’ve been faked bouts, as he was in PrideFC which did do fake bouts.

33 fights, and his best wins were Noguiera, Crocop, Sylvia and Arlovski. Being undefeated means shit when your competition isnt elite. Merab beat Moraes, Aldo, Yan, Cejudo, O’malley, Nurmagomedov & O’Malley again. 5 former Champions, 4 in his weight class, 1 former Champion above and arguably GOAT of that weight class and a elite undefeated fighter. back to back to back. 4 of them in their primes. Only time Fedor ever fought back to back Champions in his weight class were Arlovski & Sylvia at their best.

Fedors career has been surpassed by countless fighters & champions in less fights, being undefeated is the only thing Fedor has going for him, but then again the lack of consistent S class competition is a big reason that is.

You hit A,B,D,F lol

Cant wait to see how many you hit in the next one.

Its fun to see you defeat your own arguments

 

[markg171]

if only Jon Jones was as confident in wiping out the HW division as Abdulmanap

As opposed to Khabib who wasn't confident he could win without his daddy?

 

[BowserJr]

Like Mike Tyson. He wasn't tall but he was very big... Size isn't just height. Otherwise you can call DDP a short MW. You can say DC was a MW as well....

Its height, weight and reach IMO (reach being the smallest factor when speaking of size specifically)

if 2 guys are the same height but 1 weighs more that guy is bigger

Same if the shorter guy outweighs the other by a lot

If they're the same weight but one is much taller then that guy is bigger.

Taller and heavier is very obvious

 

[markg171]

Abdulmanap died in 2020. He was fortunate enough to not witness the most cowardly fraudulent HW run the world had ever seen.

I'm pretty sure Abdul's much happier to have never seen his son blame his early retirement on his mommy instead of going 30-0 like Abdul always wanted.

 

[chillyoo]

Key word being confidence, Jon wasn’t confident enough to fight clean.

His whole career is fraudulent.

 

[Tchernobog]

It's a bitter pill for most to swallow how good Jones is.

This right here.

And it's a pill his detractors refuse to swallow, instead employing hilariously astonishing levels of goalpost moving and mental gymnastics to discredit his accomplishments. Objectivity seems to be a quality few MMA fans possess, which is ironic coming from the 'fuck your feelings' crowd.

 

[volcom5]

Look at how much you're seething.
Guess I struck a nerve again lol.

I have you responding to old ass posts from months and years ago. Thats how rent free I am in your head. I can go dark on here for years like I have many times and I can expect to have love letters from you replying to posts from years ago.

In any case its cute that you call me a hypocrite and say I use double standards. I disagree.

Even if we were to use the standard you describe then it would mean that you are using a double standard in your rebuttal.

So which is it?

Is there a double standard that we're both using.

Or are you saying nonesense when you cry about a double standard?

Any rational person can see that it cant be both.

I can already see your response.

A.Project
B. deny reality
C. delusion
D. Contradict yourself
E. Emotional outbursts and
F. way too much effort in trying but failing to dissect every 3 words I write.

Only question is how many of these will you hit?

You hit A,B,D,F lol

Cant wait to see how many you hit in the next one.

Its fun to see you defeat your own arguments

Lol, you’re such coward. I can only imagine how frail and psychotic you are in person.

 

[Luffy]

Just so ppl know, I haven't made a new thread lol. It was revived. It's an old thread. I've nothing to do with its revival.

 

[Trabaho]

if only Jon Jones was as confident in wiping out the HW division as Abdulmanap

that was years ago, Jon is 38 now, Doesn´t wanna risk damage and KO when he already got money and can ride off without risking a younger bigger guy knocking him out. Once they got milions health is more worth.

 

[nonoob]

 

[BowserJr]

Lol, you’re such coward. I can only imagine how frail and psychotic you are in person.

Says the person who stalks on sherdog lol. Peak irony and hilarity.

That one hits A BTW

 

[ChessJitsu]

Fedor being a giant slayer is one of the strangest narratives. No one was saying this in 2005 and shit bar his freak show fights. Most of Fedor's opponents (the ones people gave a shit about) were around his size or even smaller.

It wasn't until Fedor came to the States that he was fighting big guys.

Fedor was a normal sized HW for his era. A little chubby around the waist, but this idea that he was a MW is really stupid. Fedor is much bigger than Anderson Silva, there is more to size than just height.

That's such cap.

 

[volcom5]

That's such cap.

It’s actually not “cap”

Notable wins over proven great fighters that Fedor was bigger than are Arona, Sobral, Noguiera, CroCop, Coleman, Randleman, Lindland, Sonnen.

Smaller opponents that Fedor lost to are Henderson, Bader, Maldonado.

Great wins over proven elite MMA fighters who were bigger than him are Schilt, Arlovski, Mir, Sylvia, Jackson(who essentially was just fat).

Bigger opponents who Fedor lost to Werdum, Silva and Mitrione.

The rest of his wins are a mix match of sizes of his opponents with a significant skill disadvantage they give up to Fedor.

 

[skylolow]

Money and fame changes everything for most.

 

[markg171]

It’s actually not “cap”

Notable wins over proven great fighters that Fedor was bigger than are Arona, Sobral, Noguiera, CroCop, Coleman, Randleman, Lindland, Sonnen.

Smaller opponents that Fedor lost to are Henderson, Bader, Maldonado.

Great wins over proven elite MMA fighters who were bigger than him are Schilt, Arlovski, Mir, Sylvia, Jackson(who essentially was just fat).

Bigger opponents who Fedor lost to Werdum, Silva and Mitrione.

The rest of his wins are a mix match of sizes of his opponents with a significant skill disadvantage they give up to Fedor.

Fedor fans will say he was undersized (not even true) but then in the same breath say he was also faster and hit harder than everybody too.

They don't actually believe he was at any physical disadvantage. They just mention the size thing to try and grow his mythos for them to jerk off to.

 

[PrideNverDies]

Jon Jones was a myth created by UFC

 

[markg171]

Jon Jones was a myth created by UFC

Jon Jones went undefeated longer than Pride even existed