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Khabib is pretty Overrated atm

Kevin Lee is good, but I'd love to see him grappling with Khabib. There are levels to this.
 
Didn’t read the thread BUT....

Khabib is as “overrated” as Conor. Meaning Conor is an absolute beast on the feet. Just as Khabib is an absolute beast once he secures a takedown and gets the game on the ground.

The only issue when the two meet is all rounds start standing. It’s an awesome classic striker vs. grappler/wrestler matchup.
 
Kobra420 said:
I have been watching UFC since day one. Save me your unjust arrogance.
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Sure. I don't doubt that.

Broken record as It may be, there's a clear distinction In thought process and analysis between those with experience and those without.

Generally, the most educated, knowledgeable and pleasurable guys to speak with tend to have some experience along with a decent fight IQ, an open mind or some random combination of those elements.

Not always the case but definitely seems to be a common theme.

Without that experience, I think It's still possible to have a good level of fight IQ but you'd probably need certain traits In the way you learn / see things for that to be so. An open mind and a good sense for objectivity / bullshit detector would be a prerequisite I'd imagine.

In any case, I'm sure you have been watching since day 1. I don't deny that. It's not even that I'm trying to be arrogant here honestly. Just being real. When it comes to MMA you are way off with most of what you say. but maybe that's just because It's clouded with bias, who knows. It's hard to tell since you only post about Conor and they're always hate posts.
 
kibz said:
Didn’t read the thread BUT....

Khabib is as “overrated” as Conor. Meaning Conor is an absolute beast on the feet. Just as Khabib is an absolute beast once he secures a takedown and gets the game on the ground.

The only issue when the two meet is all rounds start standing. It’s an awesome classic striker vs. grappler/wrestler matchup.
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appreciate the balanced take brah
 
ivory suit said:
Fuck knows why he didn’t fight khabib then, business I imagine. Looked like he was enjoying his money from the mayweather fight and wasn’t ready to get back into training

Why do you think he didn’t fight khabib then?
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Because he will never fight a fight he has something to lose. He only fights when there is something to gain. Hardly the brave warrior you are claiming.
 
MescalineDreams said:
Sure. I don't doubt that.

Broken record as It may be, there's a clear distinction In thought process and analysis between those with experience and those without.

Generally, the most educated, knowledgeable and pleasurable guys to speak with tend to have some experience along with a decent fight IQ, an open mind or some random combination of those elements.

Not always the case but definitely seems to be a common theme.

Without that experience, I think It's still possible to have a good level of fight IQ but you'd probably need certain traits In the way you learn / see things for that to be so. An open mind and a good sense for objectivity / bullshit detector would be a prerequisite I'd imagine.

In any case, I'm sure you have been watching since day 1. I don't deny that. It's not even that I'm trying to be arrogant here honestly. Just being real. When it comes to MMA you are way off with most of what you say. but maybe that's just because It's clouded with bias, who knows. It's hard to tell since you only post about Conor and they're always hate posts.
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I have always stated facts, you just refuse to listen to them, for your blind love of Conor.
 
Kobra420 said:
Sure you lie. You already admitted you have only fought in tournaments.
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when did I say I "only" fought In tournaments?

I was asked If I had any fights and I answered.

I don't even acknowledge street fights and why should I? They're irrelevant and mean nothing.

Only reason I did Is because you said "anyone who hasn't had a street fight Is a pussy"

As If some irrelevant fight against a random scrub on the street with no fighting ability means anything versus actual trained opponents..lmao

delusional
 
They're both simultaneously overrated and underrated by different sections of the fanbase. Either absolutely has the skills to win - but, yes, Conor's obnoxious fans and his own attitudes and behaviours tend to lead fans to exaggerating his weaknesses and thus, his opponents' strengths.
 
PrinceOfPain said:
They're both simultaneously overrated and underrated by different sections of the fanbase. Either absolutely has the skills to win - but, yes, Conor's obnoxious fans and his own attitudes and behaviours tend to lead fans to exaggerating his weaknesses and thus, his opponents' strengths.
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definitely goes both ways, I think many people see things In black and white terms..there's no in between.
 
MescalineDreams said:
when did I say I "only" fought In tournaments?

I was asked If I had any fights and I answered.

I don't even acknowledge street fights and why should I? They're irrelevant and mean nothing.

Only reason I did Is because you said "anyone who hasn't had a street fight Is a pussy"

As If some irrelevant fight against a random scrub on the street with no fighting ability means anything versus actual trained opponents..lmao

delusional
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Do you think there is one guy in the UFC, that has never been in a street fight (Besides Super Sage) ? And I still call bullshit with your supposed street fights. What's your record there, 293-0? All knockouts?

It's 2 am here, and you should be getting some rest, as you have a full day of training tomorrow, whenever you are not on here.

Nitey night Muffin.
 
MescalineDreams said:
definitely goes both ways, I think many people see things In black and white terms..there's no in between.
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It is not entirely a bad thing though. The all-or-nothing approach from fans on both sides adds the weight of many egos to the outcome of the fight, building the anticipation which, if we're honest, is an important part of the whole experience.
 
ColombianFist said:
i read everything here, and i stand by my statement. I mean, Why an 0-0 in boxing wants to fight the best boxer of this generation thinking his mma striking can beat him??? If that's not overrated then tell me what it is.
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You are right, but you are trying to reason with nutthuggers.. It won't work regardless of any prove.
 
MescalineDreams said:
I love him. Great fighter. Absolutely a fan, take a lot from his style.

I think he's definitely a little overrated atm though.

People are treating him as If he's a god.

He has many holes In his game that the level / styles of his opponents thus far haven't been able to expose.

I could see him losing to Conor, Tony and Kevin Lee.

It just seems like he has many holes In his game that have yet to be exposed and we just don't know enough about him yet to really put him In such high regard.

Kevin Lee is a superior fighter all around than Khabib along with being much younger / having a much higher ceiling and is ridiculously underrated. Yet Khabib is hailed as a god, for beating who exactly?

Great fighter but I feel he has yet to meet someone who's been able to truly expose the glaring holes In his game / style.
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"For beating who exactly?"

RDA, Barboza, MJ, he's beat a number of top fighters. His wins are at least as good as Kevin Lee's, and he's looked far more invincible than Lee has.

You're grasping at straws.
 
Kobra420 said:
Do you think there is one guy in the UFC, that has never been in a street fight (Besides Super Sage) ? And I still call bullshit with your supposed street fights. What's your record there, 293-0? All knockouts?

It's 2 am here, and you should be getting some rest, as you have a full day of training tomorrow, whenever you are not on here.

Nitey night Muffin.
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not many quite honestly. Mostly around the end of high school. more martial arts tends to mean less conflict In the real world..generally speaking. I've had probably 1 within the last 9 years.

There's no need to fight In the street. If you want to fight, you can let It out in the gym. Even just a heavy bag would do.
 
ShreddinMMA said:
"For beating who exactly?"

RDA, Barboza, MJ, he's beat a number of top fighters. His wins are at least as good as Kevin Lee's, and he's looked far more invincible than Lee has.

You're grasping at straws.
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yeah he's had some good wins and looked great doing so.

RDA was his best win for sure although he definitely matched up stylistically very well against him. As RDA doesn't have the best takedown defence and while he has excellent top game, his bottom game isn't anywhere near as good. Definitely a great win though.

I think Barboza Is a little overrated. He doesn't fight very well moving backwards, he has very poor boxing, responds poorly to pressure as shown In many of his fights previous to Khabib. Definitely a good fighter, some of the best kicks and knees in the UFC period..I'd say he plays a good gatekeeper role.

In any case I probably could've chosen my words much better, I wrote this thread up pretty quickly.

I feel Khabib hasn't really fought someone who's able to capitalize on the holes and openings he leaves both on the feet and during his approach to acquiring the takedown. I suppose it seems he's still somewhat untested and there's still some questions about him overall before we get too carried away. Great fighter? Absolutely. Amazing fighter. Is he truly unstoppable though? Up for debate

Gotta see him fight Conor, Tony, Lee and we'll have a better sense of where he truly stands. Those are all tough style opponents for him
 
Ts can you list all these glaring holes in your op next time?
 
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