Khabib is pretty Overrated atm

[Aegon Spengler]

I'd say GSP is the preferable fight over Khabib not because I think Khabib is better, but it's kind of like getting strangled by an anaconda is preferable to getting eaten alive by a bear. A guy like Khabib doesn't just strangle you quickly or outpoint you, he fucking mauls you. The look on Edison's face after the second round was the look of a totally demoralized man, like he would have given anything to be out of there or strangled to sleep quickly. Every fight he has is like a Cain vs JDS 3 type beating.

This is why you gotta respect Conor, he has 100+ million in the bank and is coming back to fight the scariest fighter in any weight class. Conor either knocks him out early or suffers the worst beating of his life. I mean, this is the guys that was able to walk away with dignity from losingnto Floyd, but a loss to Khabib would be tantamount to disaster.

Can't argue with that. And for all the shit he takes re: beating Mendes before Chad got a full training camp, it's worth it to consider that Conor took on the worst stylistic matchup he could possibly face with almost no notice and everything on the line...and finished the guy inside two rounds. Hard to say it was Chad's cardio that cost him that fight, too, considering he didn't have any trouble making weight and Conor isn't exactly known as a cardio machine.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

Big deal you had an old trainer who boxed Floyd, or that you trained with an 8th degree blackbelt...It does not mean you are automatically some world beater. Yet you are too much of a pussy to close the cage door? At least he was a pro fighter, something you could never be, because you probably suck at it.

Bro, you don't know who TS is?

Hint:

He even has the Irish shamrock tat, that's why he is a fan of Conor. Not all fighters are gonna rock their name, like AJ Garcia does.

 

[Source]

and yet here you are, looking for any little thing to latch onto so you can spew more negative toxic garbage. As you always do.

i feel bad for you man, you can't possibly live a happy life.

Don’t feel bad for me, just move on. You’re just becoming a sad joke now. But since you won’t stop maybe you should tell us more about how you could beat Wandy too.

 

[MescalineDreams]

No, because you're full of shit.

nah, It's just very difficult to have a proper discussion about things when It's full of toxicity, name calling, immaturity and other bullshit which just distracts from the bottom line.

With certain people, there's just no talking to them. They are completely set In their ways, completely unwavering. It always reverts to toxicity, personal attacks and other primitive nonsense.

I do sort of enjoy It though, not gonna lie. Mostly because I enjoy exposing the shit logic that these low level humans tend to exude

 

[Kobra420]

Bro, you don't know who TS is?

Hint:

He even has the Irish shamrock tat, that's why he is a fan of Conor. Not all fighters are gonna rock their name, like AJ Garcia does.

Sure it's Duffy.....Not having fought once inside the Cage.

 

[Kaiokenrye24]

I think even the fans are cuing in to the fact that he is quite vulnerable on the feet

 

[Kobra420]

nah, It's just very difficult to have a proper discussion about things when It's full of toxicity, name calling, immaturity and other bullshit which just distracts from the bottom line.

With certain people, there's just no talking to them. They are completely set In their ways, completely unwavering. It always reverts to toxicity, personal attacks and other primitive nonsense.

I do sort of enjoy It though, not gonna lie. Mostly because I enjoy exposing the shit logic that these low level humans tend to exude

You are a low level human, who thinks he's some fkn Ninja.

 

[MescalineDreams]

Don’t feel bad for me, just move on. You’re just becoming a sad joke now. But since you won’t stop maybe you should tell us more about how you could beat Wandy too.

Becoming a sad joke to someone like yourself? I'm sure I'll live. you overestimate my level of fucks given.

Someone like you Is the epitome of a loser and a low level human being In every conceivable way. so u can do u, think ur thoughts, its cool

 

[Source]

Becoming a sad joke to someone like yourself? I'm sure I'll live. you overestimate my level of fucks given.

Someone like you Is the epitome of a loser and a low level human being In every conceivable way. so u can do u, think ur thoughts, its cool

Please tell us more about the accomplishments of people you know.

 

[Kobra420]

and yet here you are, looking for any little thing to latch onto so you can spew more negative toxic garbage. As you always do.

The level of projecting as well..Some serious shit lol

i feel bad for you man, you can't possibly live a happy life.

And you're slinging shit too, hypocrite.

 

[Kobra420]

Becoming a sad joke to someone like yourself? I'm sure I'll live. you overestimate my level of fucks given.

Someone like you Is the epitome of a loser and a low level human being In every conceivable way. so u can do u, think ur thoughts, its cool

Sad joke is being nice. Pompous Prick is more like it.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Despite all the fighting, we have fun here on Sherdog...

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

Is Khabib legitimately reckless and what has happened when someone lands shots on him? Two very worthwhile questions IMO.

Lets see if google can provide some gifs.

Khabib does lunge a bit here. He ate some pretty good shots and still won the round. He showed grace under fire, his footwork was fine and he got himself out of any trouble he might have been in. Kept his head and stayed calm.

Will he be able to do that if Conor hits him? Nobody knows! That's what makes this fight so damn exciting!!

Does he like to strike?

Sure he does! He's even got a bit of power and accuracy when he lunges in for a killshot. He knows how to gauge distance and find a way inside in order to get to a TD.... but that could get him into trouble against a counter puncher like Conor.

Or... maybe he will get lucky and KO Conor and then I will have to stab myself in the eyes with a pen.

He looks a bit sloppy striking but he has some power to be wary of. Unlikely he will attempt much of this stuff vs Conor.

more likely he will go for this kind of thing

also check out this thread I stole many of the gifs from here:
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/k...ony-ferguson-pre-fight-analysis-gifs.3477263/

I think the whole reckless thing is a bit over blown with Khabib. Since being with Javier, I've noticed he holds his hands much higher and his defense has gotten considerably better, I don't see Conor landing a Hook as much as I do an uppercut, or possibly even putting in body work if he can stay on his feet long enough. Plus, Khabib's been striking Sambo since he was like a baby, not some NCAA just turned striker like many in the UFC are.

There's no doubt he will have a game plan, as he respects the heck out of Khabib, and I expect that game plan to possibly be a safer version of the one with Chad: go to the body early, teeps, but also incorporate his jab that he showed off vs May,set traps for Khabib to lead and wait for a mistake to counter.

The one thing I learned from Conor fights is expect the unexpected:
Vs Chad, he got put on his back for two rounds, and at a point all other fighters would be super wary, yet he got up and went in to attack mode like a mad dog chasing a bone
Vs Jose, no one saw that coming that fast
Vs Nate, no one saw Nate winning, nm out boxing him
Vs Nate II, no one saw him winning a decision or mounting a come back in the fourth
Vs Eddie, no one saw a demolition job like that.
Vs May, no one saw him making it to the tenth and taking multiple rounds, even out boxing the boxer and making May brawl him up.

So in this fight, you may actually stab your eye, and the most i probably out cone is Khabib ko'ing Conor or Conor subbing Khabib. It might actually be worth putting money on those, as the u expected always seems to happen.

 

[MescalineDreams]

That’s right I forgot he said that.

Well he loves taking that one out of context.

He was basically talking shit about actual fighters. Calling them and myself pussies, this and that. We started talking about martial arts, he admitted he's never trained martial arts In his life. I told him It's kind of funny when a person with zero training, basically a keyboard warrior talks such big shit to someone who could probably end their life In one punch.

I'd stand behind that statement In the way I said It. Although he definitely loves taking that one out of context. He needs everything he can get against me, grasping at straws. So do you. So I'll let you have It.

You guys seem like you'd be good friends. Both the bottom of the barrel as far as the human race Is concerned lol

 

[MescalineDreams]

Please tell us more about the accomplishments of people you know.

who says I am, all I did was mention who I've trained with. Not that It matters when you're speaking to random keyboard warrior trolls who are only Interested In spewing their primitive toxic nonsense.

Like I said you must live a really sad life.

at least kobra is kinda trolling, having fun and doesn't really care so much.

but you're like full in.

You just seem like an angry dude overall and I can't help but feel bad for u.

My advise would be to actually find a punching bag and hit that shit for a few weeks. Does wonders In regards to balancing those emotions.

I don't expect you to do it. You seem quite set In your ways, but for your type of personality It would be Ideal.

 

[Kobra420]

He was basically talking shit about actual fighters.

And you weren't? Look at the BS you say about Leban. A guy that would murder you.

 

[MescalineDreams]

I think the whole reckless thing is a bit over blown with Khabib. Since being with Javier, I've noticed he holds his hands much higher and his defense has gotten considerably better, I don't see Conor landing a Hook as much as I do an uppercut, or possibly even putting in body work if he can stay on his feet long enough. Plus, Khabib's been striking Sambo since he was like a baby, not some NCAA just turned striker like many in the UFC are.

There's no doubt he will have a game plan, as he respects the heck out of Khabib, and I expect that game plan to possibly be a safer version of the one with Chad: go to the body early, teeps, but also incorporate his jab that he showed off vs May,set traps for Khabib to lead and wait for a mistake to counter.

The one thing I learned from Conor fights is expect the unexpected:
Vs Chad, he got put on his back for two rounds, and at a point all other fighters would be super wary, yet he got up and went in to attack mode like a mad dog chasing a bone
Vs Jose, no one saw that coming that fast
Vs Nate, no one saw Nate winning, no out boxing him
Vs Nate II, no one saw him winning a decision or mounting a come back in the fourth
Vs Eddie, no one saw a demolition job like that.
Vs May, no one saw him making it to the tenth and taking multiple rounds, even out boxing the boxer and making May brawl him up.

So in this fight, you may actually stab your eye, and the most i probably out cone is Khabib ko'ing Conor or Conor subbing Khabib. It might actually be worth putting money on those, as the u expected always seems to happen.

Khabib's boxing, much shit as it got In the last fight looked vastly Improved. I think he's been Improving In how he approaches getting the takedown as well.

He's definitely far less reckless In that regard than he's been In the past. Though many of those habits / tendencies are deeply ingrained and can be tricky to fix completely.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Is Khabib legitimately reckless and what has happened when someone lands shots on him? Two very worthwhile questions IMO.

Lets see if google can provide some gifs.

Khabib does lunge a bit here. He ate some pretty good shots and still won the round. He showed grace under fire, his footwork was fine and he got himself out of any trouble he might have been in. Kept his head and stayed calm.

Will he be able to do that if Conor hits him? Nobody knows! That's what makes this fight so damn exciting!!

Does he like to strike?

Sure he does! He's even got a bit of power and accuracy when he lunges in for a killshot. He knows how to gauge distance and find a way inside in order to get to a TD.... but that could get him into trouble against a counter puncher like Conor.

Or... maybe he will get lucky and KO Conor and then I will have to stab myself in the eyes with a pen.

He looks a bit sloppy striking but he has some power to be wary of. Unlikely he will attempt much of this stuff vs Conor.

more likely he will go for this kind of thing

also check out this thread I stole many of the gifs from here:
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/k...ony-ferguson-pre-fight-analysis-gifs.3477263/

Someone being an absolute world class striker as well is not a precondition for them fighting smart. Khabib and/or his coaches do seem to know what their doing when it comes to adjusting his standup for different opponents, Barboza for example has always looked most vulnerable standing to guys who pressure him with boxing yet Ragin Ali was looking for the counter in that kind of situation and got nothing to work with.

If Khabib is overrated it would say more potentially relative to previous LW greats than his current place in the division.

 

[Kobra420]

Khabib's boxing, much shit as it got In the last fight looked vastly Improved. I think he's been Improving In how he approaches getting the takedown as well.

He's definitely far less reckless In that regard than he's been In the past. Though many of those habits / tendencies are deeply ingrained and can be tricky to fix completely.

And Conor will be in Danger of getting taken down and subbed, at any given time. Conor has two rounds tops, before he's punched out.

 

[MescalineDreams]

And you weren't? Look at the BS you say about Leban. A guy that would murder you.

Well, I actually stand behind that statement..dumb and pointless as It was to say on an Internet forum. As I actually have some ability and over a decade of experience. Not really Interested In beating a dead horse In that sense anymore, although I would hardly call It "talking shit". More so confidence In ones abilities. To be fair, I've said pretty openly I think leben sucks though. So you can call that talking shit I guess, whatever. Stand by that as well.

It's a bit different when you have people like yourself who admittedly have never trained a day In their lives, calling multiple trained fighters pussies.

Big mouth for a keyboard warrior, seems to be quite prevalent on this site. That's why I always enjoy talking to people who train or at least have trained at some point. They're always far more pleasant / grounded and balanced to deal with.