Media Kevin Lee compares UFC fighter pay to waitress tips at Applebee's

You don't honestly believe a professional MMA fighter works only in the cage. Don't be so disingenious.
This isn't a career
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It's an opportunity
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For me.
 
the only thing defeating the ufc it seems is an entirely different organization that can pay more, and consistently, than the ufc currently does with an endless pit of money. like if the guys in the middle-east had not partnered with the ufc, and instead competed with them via paying the ufc fighters and champions way more than what the ufc pays (which the saudis surely could). but i guess they figured why do that when they can just profit off what is currently built.

i think the ufc can be toppled, and not slowly. the ufc are the fighters. fighters are individuals who go where they get paid the most. this isn't ford or apple where actual products are being produced. fighters are the product.
 
the only thing defeating the ufc it seems is an entirely different organization that can pay more, and consistently, than the ufc currently does with an endless pit of money. like if the guys in the middle-east had not partnered with the ufc, and instead competed with them via paying the ufc fighters and champions way more than what the ufc pays (which the saudis surely could). but i guess they figured why do that when they can just profit off what is currently built.

i think the ufc can be toppled, and not slowly. the ufc are the fighters. fighters are individuals who go where they get paid the most. this isn't ford or apple where actual products are being produced. fighters are the product.

The issue is the UFC was essentially able to secure the NFL/NBA position of dominance/monopoly in their respective sport, without their fighters ever setting up a union like they did in those sports to secure an equitable revenue split.

So, the UFC can fully set their own terms on what revenue they will share with their fighters. They could become a 2 billion a year grossing company and they'd have the ability to decrease fighter revenue, if they felt like it.

At this point, it would probably take an act of government like they did with the Ali act in boxing to change anything.
 
The issue is the UFC was essentially able to secure the NFL/NBA position of dominance/monopoly in their respective sport, without their fighters ever setting up a union like they did in those sports to secure an equitable revenue split.

So, the UFC can fully set their own terms on what revenue they will share with their fighters. They could become a 2 billion a year grossing company and they'd have the ability to decrease fighter revenue, if they felt like it.

At this point, it would probably take an act of government like they did with the Ali act in boxing to change anything.

yeah, i agree. what you said, or what i said lol. i think both could work.
 
You don't honestly believe a professional MMA fighter works only in the cage. Don't be so disingenious.
They quite literally are paid to simply make weight and fight. Anything they do besides that is their own choice.

Must be very confusing for you when fighters step in on short notice without having trained for the fight.
 
It's honestly at the point where if anyone thinks the UFC is fair with pay, then they're just shills. The UFC is only about making Dana and his friends rich and that's it, I bet they have parties LAUGHING about all these fighters literally killing themselves so Dana can have snow in Las Vegas. It's embarrassing.

Every other "professional" sport pays their athletes enough so they don't have to work a second job at Uber, yet it's impossible for the UFC to do that? It's beyond fucked up. It embodies the American mindset these days: get the bag BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. Fuck everyone over so you can be rich.
The other sports also largely pay for their athletes mandatory training so they know they're receiving a premium product come game day to represent them well, hence why their athletes get paid more. They're a return on investment.

The UFC has absolutely nothing to do with the fighter's training, besides now that they provide the PI for free to anybody, as training is simply a choice in a fighter's best interest to help avoid getting hurt in a loss. It's by no means actually required to be paid their purse which comes from simply making weight and fighting. You don't have to train at all to do that.

Other sports pay for professionals who have to actually put in the work and then perform as well. MMA pays for dudes willing to get punched in the face.

It's, you know, the very reason why short notice fighters often get paid more despite having done less training. The pay is for actually fighting. That's all that's needed.
 
it will come in time, in all the major sports athletes were being paid peanuts in the early days. Before the NHL and NFL for example were conglomerated from all the other leagues almost everyone was paid fuck all.

I think it's going to take another 20 years to get to a level that is fair in which case you will be going up in roughly the same time frame as the other major sports.
 
Minimum wage is ridiculously low in the U.S. and in most states is even lower for tipped jobs. The Federal minimum wage for tipped workers is $2.13/hr with no benefits, which qualifies as slave wages. Tips are also shared with the staff.

Cuz some shitty ass owners were able to lobby the right people to establish this rule:

"A tipped employee engages in an occupation in which he or she customarily and regularly receives more than $30 per month in tips. An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 per hour in direct wages if that amount combined with the tips received at least equals the federal minimum wage. If the employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 per hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference. (If still employed)"


2.13? For real? That's brutal.
Forget what I said then.
 
He seems dead set on working for a company that pays waitress wages. Go work at a resturant, Kevin
 
There is no fighter that goes into a fight on the highest stage with one night notice Sir you don’t quite get it
Tell me how you can just “get a fight “ that pays thousands?

No promoter is going to just do that.

Are you high? Or just only a fan and never actually been around the sport?
You in fact can work in the UFC on 1 days notice, even less as an official backup, as well as on days, weeks, or months notice and earn thousands or millions of dollars for that 1 night. All that is required to earn your purse is that you make weight and then fight.

In fact you quite often will be paid MORE to fight on short notice. Riddle me that buttercups.

You guys are once again as usual completely confusing that training, having camps, hiring coaches, etc., are all choices by the fighters and have nothing to do with their actual job of simply making weight and fighting. They're free to do as much or as little training as they want for their fights. Read their contracts.

It's a completely dumb made up strawman argument. Stick to the facts and simply argue in good faith that you wish the purses themselves were higher. The fighters are free to blow their purses on coaches or pizza, it's entirely irrelevant to their actual jobs.
 
You in fact can work in the UFC on 1 days notice, even less as an official backup, as well as on days, weeks, or months notice and earn thousands or millions of dollars for that 1 night. All that is required to earn your purse is that you make weight and then fight.

In fact you quite often will be paid MORE to fight on short notice. Riddle me that buttercups.

You guys are once again as usual completely confusing that training, having camps, hiring coaches, etc., are all choices by the fighters and have nothing to do with their actual job of simply making weight and fighting. They're free to do as much or as little training as they want for their fights. Read their contracts.

It's a completely dumb made up strawman argument. Stick to the facts and simply argue in good faith that you wish the purses themselves were higher. The fighters are free to blow their purses on coaches or pizza, it's entirely irrelevant to their actual jobs.
Then do it and come back and post about it. Or perhaps you want to say you don’t fight you do something else that gets you your thousands a night? Well do it and put your sherdog name on your back and drop your OnlyFans. Put up or shut up since you think what you are claiming is a feasible thing to expect of others. How do you easily make your thousands every day. DM me if it aint that OnlyFans
 
Tell me how you can just “get a fight “ that pays thousands?

No promoter is going to just do that.

Are you high? Or just only a fan and never actually been around the sport?
He's a fan. But just only of the UFC and Dana. And the taste of boots
 
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