Kevin Iole / Firas Zahabi: "Conor McGregor is despicable."

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

He is very low class, can't believe anyone gives him the time of day

 

[Islam Imamate]

None of us know Conor remotely close enough to make that judgement, but people love judging and virtue signaling. This (and porn) is why the internet is so popular; people just love judging other strangers off of tiny bits of data and getting high on huffing their own farts. All we know of Conor is what he shows us in the media, which is practically nothing, much like 99% we see of Colby is the fight promoter but apparently dude is the nicest guy out there, where as someone like Dustin plays the good samaritan in the media is rumored to be a jerk IRL. Conor tried being more real last with Dustin and Donald and y'all said "Khabib took his soul", "boring", "lost because he did not get in his head", etc......so, which is it?????

It was also Khabib who crossed the line first, brought up family and sacrificed his friendship for some red panty money, even tho he sells himself as a pious saint who has rejected money - NO ONE wants to talk about that tho. Talk about duplicity and fraudulence. Of COURSE Khabib saying Conor is evil and was smeshed by the forces of good is going to upset him, and Conor's response was very logical and exposed Khabib's medieval logic: did Islam get KTFO's because he is evil? Was Chris Weidman evil, hence why he broke his leg? Are wife beating Floyd and prego woman hit and run Jon 'Pulsing Picos" Jones good because they have never lost?

And another reminder: Khabib and his buddies would be in jail now for assault and battery if Conor really was the person some think he is. Kevin Iole is giving you donkers low rent and disingenuous fodder, and y'all are lapping it up like he knows you will. 'Irish man bad'. CDS is 4 real.

All we know of Conor is what he shows in the media but Khabib and his crew are evil and dumb based off what I saw of them in the media, lmao imagine being this much of a smooth brain. Conor has showed us plenty and we've heard plenty of how he is outside the ring, just pure human trash.

 

[GeneTunney7]

Its ok buddy, i know it is tough realizing your idiol is a piece of dogshit and u are equally as well. Seeing someone try to defend the indefensible and show themselves to be a degenrate in the process is quite amusing. Your stay here at sherdog wont be pleasant

You did validate my point tho, that if someone speaks a truth that is out of line with your team thinking, they are a "nut hugger". Some Conor fan the other day called Khabib a 'scurrying rat', and I disagreed with him, as I think Khabib is a tremendous fighter, a man from very different culture than most of us, and I can not judge him as a person based upon some of bit less than honorable actions ( i.e. homeless guy push ups, starting gang fights with the Diaz crew, DM'ing Conor about his son, ganging up on Artem, spitting on a beaten opponent, assaulting corner men, etc). Khabib even acted so abhorrently that Putin had to scold him in front of the global media. Still, who are we to judge him as a complete person based upon him losing his temper?

If Khabib does not call Conor evil and make light of the fact Conor suffered a potentially life altering injury, Conor does not make his emotionally loaded comment which exposed the pitfalls in Khabib's logic. What, did you expect him to just it there and take it, not get mad or offended? What would you do if someone publicly said your serious injury happened because you were evil, and God wanted to smite you? How about all the kids that get cancer and die? Were they all evil? Please tell me you are able to comprehend this point.

And have you ever recovered from such an injury and been hopped up on all those opiates and God knows what else? The fact he deleted the comment seems to indicate he was f'd up, not in the right mind state, and later regretted it. Conor has clearly struggled with addiction, but I still do not think this is evidence he is the terrible human being you claim he is. And maybe you are right, maybe he is a terrible human being, but I just dont think we can make these judgment based off of late night drunk or doped up tweets.

So far as I know, all the people closest to Conor have nothing but good things to say about his caliber of a human being, but I also realize Sherdog is full of clairvoyant 6'5 alpha male psychologists who know more about a person than they know about themselves.

 

[Equinox Shadow]

And Iole is correct. McConor is 100% asshole, scum and represents the worst of MMA.
I would like to see The Eagle come out of retirement and beat the living fuck out of McConor again.

But many MMA fans are psychotic, so does not surprise me that their favorite fighter is a psychotic lunatic.

Conor McGregor is despicable. There’s no other way to say it.

Well, maybe there is: He’s vile. He’s heartless, soulless and his ego knows no bounds.

What you are seeing now from the former two-division UFC champion is the real man, the guy he effectively hid for several years as he was making a remarkable rise from poverty to the top of his sport.

On Monday, McGregor put out a tweet, which he at least had the common sense to delete, about Khabib Nurmagomedov’s late father, Abdulmanap.

There has long been animosity between Nurmagomedov and McGregor, of course, begun by McGregor.

But McGregor’s tweet in response to a tweet from Nurmagomedov, the now-retired former UFC lightweight champion, shows how low McGregor has sunk.

After Dustin Poirier’s win over McGregor in the main event of UFC 264 on July 10 in Las Vegas, Nurmagomedov tweeted, in part, “Good always defeats evil.”

Now, one could take the view, myopic as that would be, that Nurmagomedov started this most recent dust-up. But no one with an ounce of class and/or decency would respond as McGregor did on Monday.

He wrote, “Covid is good and father is evil?”

McGregor didn’t mention Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov by name, but that’s unmistakably who he was referring to. Khabib always refers to his dad, who died of COVID-19 complications last year, as “father.”

Prior to their 2018 fight, McGregor hurled insults at Nurmagomedov’s wife and father and insulted his religion. Every single one of those were out-of-bounds, but because McGregor is a terrific fighter and people wanted to see the bout against Nurmagomedov, they were largely ignored.

Sadly, it’s probably going to be largely ignored again, though props to coach Firas Zahabi of Tri-Star for speaking out. In a video he did on YouTube breaking down UFC 264, Zahabi took direct aim at McGregor’s disgusting public behavior.


https://sports.yahoo.com/conor-mc-g...abib-nurmagomedovs-dead-father-210903055.html

Kevin Iole has covered combat sports since the 1970s and is the 2007 winner of the Nat Fleischer Award for career excellence in boxing journalism.

 

[GeneTunney7]

All we know of Conor is what he shows in the media but Khabib and his crew are evil and dumb based off what I saw of them in the media, lmao imagine being this much of a smooth brain. Conor has showed us plenty and we've heard plenty of how he is outside the ring, just pure human trash.

And we have also seen him grant the wishes of dying children, give millions to charity, give respect to beaten opponents, take fighters under his wings and give them a platform to support for their families, pay off his parent's mortgage, and grant red panty nights to fighters he wanted to see have a nice pay day.......what do you know, it is like he is a human being or something and is complex......



The only fighter in history to have such a quick and similar meteoric rise to global fame and money was Tyson, and look at how that turned out. Sorry, but you can not compare your life with theirs, not to mention the fact that the type of people drawn to fighting are simply not equipped to deal with that kind of rise to fame and fortune. Go give any 20 year old fighter on the roster all the money in the world, make them the most famous athlete on the planet, surround them with paparazzi 24/7, put them under a microscope and see what happens. Just like Michael Jordan alluded to in 'The Last Dance' documentary, people love building up these athletes into super stars for no other reason than just to tear them down.

And just sad you think I am calling Khabib and his crew 'dumb and evil'. Was it evil to break into Raul Mirzaev's house when he was sleeping and beat, choke, stab and shoot him within an inch of his life? Yep. Was it evil for Conor to punch an old dude that insulted his whiskey? Yep. Was it tasteless for Khabib to say "good defeats evil" at Conor snapping his leg? Yep. Was it tasteless for Conor to expose Khabib's flawed logic by asking "father evil, covid good?". Yep. Still, Im not ready to play God and judge these strangers based upon these small glimpses in time we get of them.

 

[Dionysian]

My guy, not sure if you can read, but I am not defending anyone, just pointing out the fact none of us really know him (or any fighter, for that matter). I am also establishing the chronological order of events, which so many around here want to conveniently forget. Khabib is LW GOAT, but his logic makes no sense and he threw the first stone. I get it tho, "Irish man bad....literally HitIer!". Apparently it is too much to speak facts and not be associated with team nut hugger or team hater. Crying? Lol. You resorting to such hyperbole and getting all triggered by the simple facts reveals Im not the none crying salty tears in need of drying.

His criminal acts are literally caught on fucking camera. Stop this “we don’t know him” bullshit act. We didn’t know Bundy either. We don’t need to. How many documented crimes does it take?

 

[GeneTunney7]

Your defense of conor is that he is promoting.

Well was pinching old man in the bar the part of the promotion?

Again, you prove my point about how binary brained many MMA fan are. I am just speaking raw facts here, but raw facts and refusing to put on team jersey will earn you ire from both sides of the fence with the fan boys.

Conor punching the told dude was detestable. Conor jumping in the ring and going after the ref in Ward fight was detestable. Conor has done alot of bad things in his life and I am not defending them. All people do bad things in their lives, but that does not make them all 'despicable people'. People are complex, they have many sides to them, and Conor is especially unique owing to the level of fame and fortune he acquired so quickly. I do not think any young fighter could handle the level of fame and fortune that was thrown at Conor in the such a short time. In my view, how he has dealt with it is simply human nature, not a symptom of him being some 'despicable' person - similar things happened to Tyson, Jones, Floyd, Rousey, not to mention the stars that do not receive daily CTE like Britney Spears, Bieber, Liz Taylor, Michael Jackson, Marlon Brando, etc.......even Mozart died a young broke junkie.

When it comes to the Conor-Khabib saga, both have acted poorly at times. It was Khabib's crew that tried to murder Rasul apparently over him showing hospitality to Artem and Queally; it was Khabib that first brought family in it; it was him that slapped Artem and forced Conor to react; it was him that spit on a beaten opponent and started a riot; just as it was him that said "good defeats evil" when Conor broke his leg. You can not just focus on Conor's unprecedented explosive rhetoric, the bus incident, Conor's tweet, and not focus on the catalyst for many of these events. This "bad things only happen to people because they deserve it" is bogus caveman think that is offensive to people all of the world that have suffered tragedies and deserves to be exposed. I can call out bad behavior on both sides of the fence without claiming that either are "despicable" human beings, just as I can also remain fans of both as fighters without having to defend every action they ever have done or will do.

 

[krelianx]

None of us know Conor remotely close enough to make that judgement, but people love judging and virtue signaling. This (and porn) is why the internet is so popular; people just love judging other strangers off of tiny bits of data and getting high on huffing their own farts. All we know of Conor is what he shows us in the media, which is practically nothing, much like 99% we see of Colby is the fight promoter but apparently dude is the nicest guy out there, where as someone like Dustin plays the good samaritan in the media is rumored to be a jerk IRL. Conor tried being more real last with Dustin and Donald and y'all said "Khabib took his soul", "boring", "lost because he did not get in his head", etc......so, which is it?????

It was also Khabib who crossed the line first, brought up family and sacrificed his friendship for some red panty money, even tho he sells himself as a pious saint who has rejected money - NO ONE wants to talk about that tho. Talk about duplicity and fraudulence. Of COURSE Khabib saying Conor is evil and was smeshed by the forces of good is going to upset him, and Conor's response was very logical and exposed Khabib's medieval logic: did Islam get KTFO's because he is evil? Was Chris Weidman evil, hence why he broke his leg? Are wife beating Floyd and prego woman hit and run Jon 'Pulsing Picos" Jones good because they have never lost?

And another reminder: Khabib and his buddies would be in jail now for assault and battery if Conor really was the person some think he is. Kevin Iole is giving you donkers low rent and disingenuous fodder, and y'all are lapping it up like he knows you will. 'Irish man bad'. CDS is 4 real.

I also don't know Nicolas Maduro personally, you know, just what appears in the media.

 

[Ogata]

Again, you prove my point about how binary brained many MMA fan are. I am just speaking raw facts here, but raw facts and refusing to put on team jersey will earn you ire from both sides of the fence with the fan boys.

Conor punching the told dude was detestable. Conor jumping in the ring and going after the ref in Ward fight was detestable. Conor has done alot of bad things in his life and I am not defending them. All people do bad things in their lives, but that does not make them all 'despicable people'. People are complex, they have many sides to them, and Conor is especially unique owing to the level of fame and fortune he acquired so quickly. I do not think any young fighter could handle the level of fame and fortune that was thrown at Conor in the such a short time. In my view, how he has dealt with it is simply human nature, not a symptom of him being some 'despicable' person - similar things happened to Tyson, Jones, Floyd, Rousey, not to mention the stars that do not receive daily CTE like Britney Spears, Bieber, Liz Taylor, Michael Jackson, Marlon Brando, etc.......even Mozart died a young broke junkie.

When it comes to the Conor-Khabib saga, both have acted poorly at times. It was Khabib's crew that tried to murder Rasul apparently over him showing hospitality to Artem and Queally; it was Khabib that first brought family in it; it was him that slapped Artem and forced Conor to react; it was him that spit on a beaten opponent and started a riot; just as it was him that said "good defeats evil" when Conor broke his leg. You can not just focus on Conor's unprecedented explosive rhetoric, the bus incident, Conor's tweet, and not focus on the catalyst for many of these events. This "bad things only happen to people because they deserve it" is bogus caveman think that is offensive to people all of the world that have suffered tragedies and deserves to be exposed. I can call out bad behavior on both sides of the fence without claiming that either are "despicable" human beings, just as I can also remain fans of both as fighters without having to defend every action they ever have done or will do.

Looks like someone is on Conors payroll...

Lets say I agree with you Khabib, what about calling Siver a Nazi? What about the intense personal shit talking on Aldo? What about threatening Dustin's family?

Oh and Khabib never talked shit about Dustin or anyone else. He only made it personal because of Conor being the scumbag that he is.

 

[King Joffery]

How can people not understand Conor's comment? He even phased it as a question not a statement.

He clearly is not saying the father is evil or Covid is good, obviously he doesn't believe that but he is simply pointing out how flawed Khabib's statement was as his statement must mean his father was evil and covid good in order to remain true.

Conor was simply testing out Khabib's statement using the scientific method and proved it was bullshit. Maybe it was a little insensitive to use his father as the proof his statement is flawed but he needed an extreme example to get through to Khabib and he is in no way disrespecting his father.

 

[rellikoge]

I don't understand how all Connor's fans can still support him. Punching an elderly man for refusing his whiskey, multiple sexual assault allegations, and constant trouble with the law. Hes not even witty anymore due to excess substance abuse and blows killing off his brain cells.

 

[Peli]

Khabib always refers to his dad...as “father.”

What else is he supposed to refer him as?

 

[Local Plata]

Real hard-hitting journalism there, Kev.

 

[Ingjr]

What else is he supposed to refer him as?

I call my father, Dad. Little more familiar than "Father".

 

[ejlarson249]

just pure human trash.

I'll take blatant fighter bashing for 1000 Alex.

 

[GeneTunney7]

Looks like someone is on Conors payroll...

Lets say I agree with you Khabib, what about calling Siver a Nazi? What about the intense personal shit talking on Aldo? What about threatening Dustin's family?

Oh and Khabib never talked shit about Dustin or anyone else. He only made it personal because of Conor being the scumbag that he is.

RE: "Lets say I agree with you Khabib, what about calling Siver a Nazi? What about the intense personal shit talking on Aldo? What about threatening Dustin's family?"

Much of that stuff was definitely over the line. You seem to think I am some blind Conor nut hugger, who is trying to defend everything he has ever done, but you could not be more wrong. The talking with Aldo was indeed intense, but he also never really got into the family aspect, and much of it was also playful - mind you, Aldo did his fair share of talking too, even dressed up in a joker outfit while in Boston. Lol, Lamas even made a professional video clowning on "Conrad McGillicutty", so dont pretend like many others were not saying their share of things and begging for a red panty. At the end of all those fights tho, Conor showed respect, and when fighters gave him respect (i.e. Diego, Donald, Frankie, Faber or even DP), he tried to reward them with a red panty night.

The family issue with Khabib was no question part and parcel a result of the DM Khabib sent and him going after Artem. READ Khabib's DM to Conor and then tell me Conor is the one that went over the line first.....it's like you focusing on the bomb in Nagasaki but leaving out Pearl Harbor. With Conor's previous over the top promotion, there was a Rick Flair sense of showmanship, it made people laugh, but never got really dark. The Khabib stuff tho, it was dark, and I surmise that is because they were once friends and respected each other, on top of the fact Khabib crossed over a line no other opponent had previous. As the saying goes " all if fair in love and war".

In the event of this past Dustin ordeal, Conor again also likely felt betrayed as he 1) gave Dustin the fight as Dustin showed respect to Conor, and 2) things became dark around the whole charity thing, where it was rumored Dustin was playing Conor for a sucker and using his donation to build his own personal gym, not to mention the rhetoric after wherein Dustin called him a trash bag human being, etc. Am I defending Conor bringing Jolie in this? Nope.

Not sure where you get Khabib was always respectful to his opponents either, he had a big mouth on him, disrespected many opponents (see Tony, Donald, etc) and hi big mouth and bully mentality is why he got in a brawl with the Diaz boys - and look up what happened to Rasul Mirzaev too, it pales in comparison to anything Conor has ever done. Pointing this out is not an endorsement of me hating Khabib either, it is jut me shining a light on the gray areas that many here want to avoid.

RE: "Looks like someone is on Conors payroll...":

There used to be a time where people could be fans of both Conor and Khabib, but then a new wave of fans came in the sport and insisted you had to take a side - infact, there was a time almost all Conor fans were Khabib fans, but apparently those times are gone. It's just sad that people cant have an honest conversation about Conor or Khabib without resorting to name calling and placing a person on a team.....it reminds me political soap opera Biden vs Trump stuff, and there is no need for that kind of hysterical rhetoric in martial arts Back in 2013 I said Conor and Khabib would be the future of their divisions, and that owing to Conor's style and belief in himself, he would keep going up and up until Khabib beat him. I have always been a fan of both martial artists, but realized Khabib was his kryptonite. In this instance however, I am just pointing out why Conor tweeted what he did - like the Artem slap and the Twitter DM about Conor Jr, Conor's poor behavior was a reaction to Khabib's poor behavior. Does this mean I support Conor calling Siver a Nazi and punching an old dude? Absolutely not.

TBH it sounds like many of you are such Khabib nut huggers or Conor haters that you can not bring yourselves to admit objective reality here. I am starting to understand why "Khabib fans" are again and again voted the worst fans in MMA - totally incapable of having a fact filled, non partisan & reasoned conversation. All people do good and bad things over their life. No person is all bad or good. What I am saying is not the binary brained, schadenfreude driven, virtue signaling that an internet forum wants to hear, but it is truth.

 

[GeneTunney7]

His criminal acts are literally caught on fucking camera. Stop this “we don’t know him” bullshit act. We didn’t know Bundy either. We don’t need to. How many documented crimes does it take?

Is Mike Tyson a "despicable" human being too? Asking for a friend.

We have many of Khabib's "crimes" on camera too, not to mention his misogyny and other less than savory behavior, so I take it he is a 'despicable' human being too?

Once you go down the dum-dum black/white think road you are on, you just have to keep it up for everyone.

 

[Dionysian]

Is Mike Tyson a "despicable" human being too? Asking for a friend.

We have many of Khabib's "crimes" on camera too, not to mention his misogyny and other less than savory behavior, so I take it he is a 'despicable' human being too?

Once you go down the dum-dum black/white think road you are on, you just have to keep it up for everyone.

Sure dum-dum, let’s go down the road called reality.

Please list all the crimes Khabib committed on camera.

 

[Dirge]

Honestly if someone said that kind of thing about my father in that context (Who passed a couple of years ago), There would be some serious violence involved.

Conor has always been a piece of shit and frankly whether you are a fan or not of Khabib, you dont' say things about someone that has passed in that fashion. This goes beyond being an asshole and into the realm of human garbage.

 

[Dirge]

Is Mike Tyson a "despicable" human being too? Asking for a friend.

We have many of Khabib's "crimes" on camera too, not to mention his misogyny and other less than savory behavior, so I take it he is a 'despicable' human being too?

Once you go down the dum-dum black/white think road you are on, you just have to keep it up for everyone.

Actually Tyson was a despicable human being. I don't think anyone would ever dispute that so why ask? He was a juvenile criminal and a huge thug while he was a successful boxer. While I don't personally believe he actually raped the girl, a lot of people do and he did years in prison for it. Then he said shit about eating Lewis's kids, bit off Hollyfields ear etc. He cheated on every woman he was in a relationship with and was generally abusive as well.

The guy was an animal and not in a good way. Is he better now? Not sure. He's broke now and trying to rebuild a career of excess and that may have tempered his behavior.

When you get down to it, there are a lot of commonalities with McGregor's behavior and Ttyson's